Yeah, that needs to be adjusted.
Lufthansa's pattern of flights / connections is positively mental. I fly GLA - FRA a lot for work, and every day it's some random time, then random weeks it also switches. Some days - 6 am flight to FRA. Cool. Other days - first flight is 1 pm. How does that help? augh.dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Jun 11, 2022There were mentions 5 a week for Lufthansa by next spring and it would be helpful for Bosnians, right now the Wednesday flight gets to Frankfurt at 7:55am Thursday and idk why but it's the only day the direct to Sarajevo leaves at 8pm and not 9:55am like the rest of the week
Since I haven't posted stats in awhile I figured I would post these
March load %. Domestic only. International are three months behind these
Combined both way numbers. Sorry they are airport codes but its too many for me to go through, you can google them.
Alaska
SEA 93.5%
AA
PHX 87%
DFW 85%
CLT 82.5%
LAX 81%
MIA 80%
ORD 77.5%
PHL 76.5%
DCA 71.5%
AUS 60.5%
BOS 52.5%
LGA 51.5%
Delta
SLC 82.5%
ATL 82%
MSP 79%
DTW 75%
LGA 54.5%
Frontier
MCO 85%
LAS 80%
DEN 64.5%
MIA 61.5%
Spirit - MUCH better
LAX 86%
PHX 84%
LAS 81%
TPA 80%
FLL 79%
RSW 77.5%
MCO 76%
United
DEN 88%
ORD 87.5%
IAH 86.5%
IAD 81%
EWR 73%
Southwest - besides some spokes and LGA, pretty good.
SJU 96.5%
VPS 95.5% (only one outbound seat not sold for month)
SAN 95%
SMF 94%
SLC 92.5%
JAX 92.5%
LAX 92%
MCO 91.5%
PHX 91.5%
SJC 91%
LAS 91%
SNA 91%
TPA 90.5%
SAT 90.5%
PNS 90% (96% outbound)
MIA 90%
DEN 89%
RSW 89%
ECP 87%
SRQ 86.5%
RDU 85%
FLL 85%
ATL 83.5%
DAL 83%
LGB 83%
MSP 83%
BNA 83%
OMA 83%
MYR 82% (94% outbound)
PIT 82%
MSY 81.5%
BWI 80.5%
HOU 80%
AUS 79.5%
MKE 78%
CMH 77.5%
PHL 77.5%
MCI 77%
CLE 77%
OKC 75%
DCA 74.5%
BOS 74%
MDW 72%
ICT 69%
DTW 68%
LIT 66.5%
TUL 66%
LGA 66%
CLT 65.5%
DSM 65%
March load %. Domestic only. International are three months behind these
Combined both way numbers. Sorry they are airport codes but its too many for me to go through, you can google them.
Alaska
SEA 93.5%
AA
PHX 87%
DFW 85%
CLT 82.5%
LAX 81%
MIA 80%
ORD 77.5%
PHL 76.5%
DCA 71.5%
AUS 60.5%
BOS 52.5%
LGA 51.5%
Delta
SLC 82.5%
ATL 82%
MSP 79%
DTW 75%
LGA 54.5%
Frontier
MCO 85%
LAS 80%
DEN 64.5%
MIA 61.5%
Spirit - MUCH better
LAX 86%
PHX 84%
LAS 81%
TPA 80%
FLL 79%
RSW 77.5%
MCO 76%
United
DEN 88%
ORD 87.5%
IAH 86.5%
IAD 81%
EWR 73%
Southwest - besides some spokes and LGA, pretty good.
SJU 96.5%
VPS 95.5% (only one outbound seat not sold for month)
SAN 95%
SMF 94%
SLC 92.5%
JAX 92.5%
LAX 92%
MCO 91.5%
PHX 91.5%
SJC 91%
LAS 91%
SNA 91%
TPA 90.5%
SAT 90.5%
PNS 90% (96% outbound)
MIA 90%
DEN 89%
RSW 89%
ECP 87%
SRQ 86.5%
RDU 85%
FLL 85%
ATL 83.5%
DAL 83%
LGB 83%
MSP 83%
BNA 83%
OMA 83%
MYR 82% (94% outbound)
PIT 82%
MSY 81.5%
BWI 80.5%
HOU 80%
AUS 79.5%
MKE 78%
CMH 77.5%
PHL 77.5%
MCI 77%
CLE 77%
OKC 75%
DCA 74.5%
BOS 74%
MDW 72%
ICT 69%
DTW 68%
LIT 66.5%
TUL 66%
LGA 66%
CLT 65.5%
DSM 65%
Southwest extended their schedule thru the holidays. Hartford, CT is back for the first time since it was a covid cut. Saturday only for now starting in November.
Thanks for that data- it sure feels like the loads are high when you are on planes these days. Any word on restoring OAK or SFO on any airline?
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I booked a STL-FRA-Zagreb flight for September and with Lufthansa its $1,200 (includes free checked bag) but i didn't book it with them, i booked it with United (as its a codeshare) for $915 (and $75 for a checked bag but i have free bags with United)..
I recently booked the Lufthansa flight for the fall. I tried to do the same (through United, where my miles are) and the prices were wild. $Thousands more for the same flights on United (I tried multiple combinations of depart/return). Ended up booking through the Lufthansa website. You can still include your United miles number when booking.dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Jun 16, 2022I booked a STL-FRA-Zagreb flight for September and with Lufthansa its $1,200 (includes free checked bag) but i didn't book it with them, i booked it with United (as its a codeshare) for $915 (and $75 for a checked bag but i have free bags with United)..
What's the deal with these low numbers for LaGuardia and Newark?
Oakland is back once a week on Southwest starting in Sep. Sundays for Sept/Oct. Saturday for Nov/Dectztag wrote: ↑Jun 16, 2022Thanks for that data- it sure feels like the loads are high when you are on planes these days. Any word on restoring OAK or SFO on any airline?
SFO is "scheduled" to start back up for United in January. Nothing on SFO for Southwest.
SJC is Saturdays now. Goes back to daily in September.
I've done something like 20-30 flights this year and there haven't been more than 3/4 seats open on a single one. Including TATL widebody. It's crazy.tztag wrote: ↑Jun 16, 2022Thanks for that data- it sure feels like the loads are high when you are on planes these days. Any word on restoring OAK or SFO on any airline?
The only thing I miss about COVID is flying TATL you got the full row to yourself.
Updated Non-Stop map on flystl. Wish they put GermanyFRA inset like other maps do. This line to nowhere is kinda weird. Happy to see that red spider growing though!
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This isn't STL content but I don't know where else to share it and it's very strange. I was laying over at Midway this week and noticed a Southwest flight from Midway to O'Hare:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWA ... /KMDW/KORD
It would not come up on Southwest's website, but it was listed on the departures board in the airport (with a gate).
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWA ... /KMDW/KORD
It would not come up on Southwest's website, but it was listed on the departures board in the airport (with a gate).
Probably just a reposition. I know it's not the same, but I've seen Orlando to Tampa repositions by Southwest.NHampton wrote: ↑Jun 23, 2022This isn't STL content but I don't know where else to share it and it's very strange. I was laying over at Midway this week and noticed a Southwest flight from Midway to O'Hare:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWA ... /KMDW/KORD
It would not come up on Southwest's website, but it was listed on the departures board in the airport (with a gate).
2nd this. They have had some aircraft out of place some lately with cancels.dweebe wrote: ↑Jun 23, 2022Probably just a reposition. I know it's not the same, but I've seen Orlando to Tampa repositions by Southwest.NHampton wrote: ↑Jun 23, 2022This isn't STL content but I don't know where else to share it and it's very strange. I was laying over at Midway this week and noticed a Southwest flight from Midway to O'Hare:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWA ... /KMDW/KORD
It would not come up on Southwest's website, but it was listed on the departures board in the airport (with a gate).
Apple vacations has had it for awhile (brief hiatus during covid). VivaAerobus is flying it this summer for them. Along with HUX/SJD.
Not sure when/if we had regularly scheduled service there.
I wish they would go back to the map they had about a year ago. It was much cleaner.
I'm sure if you dig Southwest probably moves planes around the Los Angeles and SF Bay areas.jshank83 wrote: ↑Jun 23, 20222nd this. They have had some aircraft out of place some lately with cancels.dweebe wrote: ↑Jun 23, 2022Probably just a reposition. I know it's not the same, but I've seen Orlando to Tampa repositions by Southwest.NHampton wrote: ↑Jun 23, 2022This isn't STL content but I don't know where else to share it and it's very strange. I was laying over at Midway this week and noticed a Southwest flight from Midway to O'Hare:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWA ... /KMDW/KORD
It would not come up on Southwest's website, but it was listed on the departures board in the airport (with a gate).
Frankfurt to St. Louis. Economy. July 8th.
Appears things are going well.
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Appears things are going well.
Does anyone know what this guy was doing landing at Downtown Airport? I saw it flying extremely low over S. City.
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I do not know for sure, but the last time I saw this, it was a sports team in a Delta plane flying inbprop wrote: ↑Jun 30, 2022Does anyone know what this guy was doing landing at Downtown Airport? I saw it flying extremely low over S. City.downtoOI
Charter to take the Cards to Philly.bprop wrote: ↑Jun 30, 2022Does anyone know what this guy was doing landing at Downtown Airport? I saw it flying extremely low over S. City.downtown.png
May numbers for STL
Up 44.4% vs May 2021
Down 13.2% vs May 2019
Every month gets better.
Last 12 months passengers
12,367,155
About the same as 2014
https://www.flystl.com/uploads/document ... rt-May.pdf
Up 44.4% vs May 2021
Down 13.2% vs May 2019
Every month gets better.
Last 12 months passengers
12,367,155
About the same as 2014
https://www.flystl.com/uploads/document ... rt-May.pdf
I caught the back half of the airport commission meeting today
Nothing super noteworthy
New terminal wise it seems like things are moving along. It was mentioned they are just extending the current airport usage agreement another year so they can flush out new terminal stuff. They will be negotiating on new terminal fees/etc with airlines soon.
Eddie Bauer in C is turning into a store, I can't remember the name, that will be selling activewear and beach related items. They are going to use it to market to the vacationers going to Florida and beach destinations on Spirit and Frontier.
Nothing super noteworthy
New terminal wise it seems like things are moving along. It was mentioned they are just extending the current airport usage agreement another year so they can flush out new terminal stuff. They will be negotiating on new terminal fees/etc with airlines soon.
Eddie Bauer in C is turning into a store, I can't remember the name, that will be selling activewear and beach related items. They are going to use it to market to the vacationers going to Florida and beach destinations on Spirit and Frontier.