Does anyone know what's up with American and the Philadelphia service here? I tried to book a flight yesterday to Philly in mid-April and I couldn't find anything direct there on a Wednesday. I now have to connect through Boston on the way there and Chicago on the way back. Wasn't sure if they've reduced service to Philadelphia to a certain amount of weekly flights or what. Just curious about the whole situation.
The KSDK article teased us with a 737-8 in the graphic only to confirm the crop duster Bombardiers in the article.gone corporate wrote: ↑Mar 04, 2022STL Biz Journal: Air Canada to restart service at St. Louis' Lambert airport
Daily Non-Stops to Toronto restarting May 7th.
Afternoon turnaround flights on a Bombardier CRJ200.
By June, Air Canada will add a second daily Toronto flight.
3 a day. This is a the 13th.AJ1289 wrote: ↑Mar 04, 2022Does anyone know what's up with American and the Philadelphia service here? I tried to book a flight yesterday to Philly in mid-April and I couldn't find anything direct there on a Wednesday. I now have to connect through Boston on the way there and Chicago on the way back. Wasn't sure if they've reduced service to Philadelphia to a certain amount of weekly flights or what. Just curious about the whole situation.
Has anyone filled out the survey that the airport is asking for the public? If not, here's the link in case anyone is interested in filling this out: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/5M53F7Z
It's only open till the end of the month, so spread the word to fellow travelers and family/friends who would be interested in this!
It's only open till the end of the month, so spread the word to fellow travelers and family/friends who would be interested in this!
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I did, but unhappily. All talk of parking but literally nothing regarding transit access, that is despite having two metrolink stations on site.AJ1289 wrote:Has anyone filled out the survey that the airport is asking for the public? If not, here's the link in case anyone is interested in filling this out: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/5M53F7Z
It's only open till the end of the month, so spread the word to fellow travelers and family/friends who would be interested in this!
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^Parking fees is one of main ways STL Lambert Airport pays its bills, in fact I'm pretty certain it's their largest non-aeronautical revenue producer. Meanwhile, the airport does not generate any revenues from Metrolink, perhaps losing monies in the process of maintaining those two stations. That's the likely context. If it was the other way around, their messaging would reflect that.
Side note: I almost always take the train to the airport. If I do park, I do so only at a STL Lambert Airport garage, NOT a Parking Spot, so the revenues go to the airport itself rather than an unrelated third party.
Side note: I almost always take the train to the airport. If I do park, I do so only at a STL Lambert Airport garage, NOT a Parking Spot, so the revenues go to the airport itself rather than an unrelated third party.
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When i do drive i always park at Lamberts garage, when my work prices out contracts its based on overnight parking fees in LA or NYC so when i submit a $200 invoice for 10 nights its a money saver
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^I've been known to go out and park in quieter corners of the garage just to hang for an hour or two and play the piano. (And maybe also take some plane pictures.) Haven't been able to do that since before plague, sadly, but . . . hopefully it'll be open again soon.
Thanks for the link to the survey, AJ. Just took it, my emphasis was on covered, walkable parking and a single, unified concourse and security.
^ I've been known to do the same, SP, except for the piano part. I had a biz trip on WN with a 4 hr layover in Las Vegas where I spent the entire time hanging out on the top level of the employee garage taking in the view of the strip. It was mid January and the temp was around 60, you wouldn't have been able pay me to sit inside that airport for that layover.
^ I've been known to do the same, SP, except for the piano part. I had a biz trip on WN with a 4 hr layover in Las Vegas where I spent the entire time hanging out on the top level of the employee garage taking in the view of the strip. It was mid January and the temp was around 60, you wouldn't have been able pay me to sit inside that airport for that layover.
To me, the single, unified concourse and security is really an opportunity for Airport, City and County as whole to rethink Metrolink from a two stop end of the line mentality to a single airport stop with a much better experience on its way to Earth City. Yes, to GC point that parking will always be huge on Airport leadership mind as it is truly a revenue generator. Found 2021 state of airport report but no good financials. Once upon a time found a budget report that I can't seem to find now but believe non airside such as parking accounted for like 40% or more of airport revenues. However, to me it is really upon political leadership to take it one step further with metrolink as you could easily extend west and incorporate 2-3 more stopes in the county.pdm_ad wrote: ↑Mar 15, 2022Thanks for the link to the survey, AJ. Just took it, my emphasis was on covered, walkable parking and a single, unified concourse and security.
I can see a slight shift in metrolink alignment, go underground with cut and cover. and a new underground station in front of terminal 1, with direct access to/from baggage & ticket counters. Airport is planning a single terminal and new linear concourse, parking structures & MoDOT planning improved I70. So time for City & County to do its part and step it up on a single stop metrolink vision that allows for westward expansion to East West. The time is now.
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It'd be truly wonderful if St. Charles and St. Charles County could suddenly get on board with Metrolink.
I think it'd be pretty excellent if there were a way Metrolink could go by The Family Arena, the new Riverpoint district, Streets of St. Charles, Ameristar, and historic Main Street.
I don't think the train needs to go very far into St. Charles city or St. Charles County, but it would be cool if it could go out to Lindenwood University. It'd be excellent to have Lindenwood, WashU, and SLU all on the system path.
And if Madison County, Illinois ever wants Metrolink, I'd love to see SIUE on the system path as well.
I think it'd be pretty excellent if there were a way Metrolink could go by The Family Arena, the new Riverpoint district, Streets of St. Charles, Ameristar, and historic Main Street.
I don't think the train needs to go very far into St. Charles city or St. Charles County, but it would be cool if it could go out to Lindenwood University. It'd be excellent to have Lindenwood, WashU, and SLU all on the system path.
And if Madison County, Illinois ever wants Metrolink, I'd love to see SIUE on the system path as well.
Would love this, connect more population centers, extend the system to where the people are and want to go.RockChalkSTL wrote: ↑Mar 15, 2022It'd be truly wonderful if St. Charles and St. Charles County could suddenly get on board with Metrolink.
I think it'd be pretty excellent if there were a way Metrolink could go by The Family Arena, the new Riverpoint district, Streets of St. Charles, Ameristar, and historic Main Street.
I don't think the train needs to go very far into St. Charles city or St. Charles County, but it would be cool if it could go out to Lindenwood University. It'd be excellent to have Lindenwood, WashU, and SLU all on the system path.
And if Madison County, Illinois ever wants Metrolink, I'd love to see SIUE on the system path as well.
The Main St. stop would be really popular. Especially during events like the Oktoberfest.
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If there were a line out to St. Charles, plus more West County and North County corridors with Metrolink, I think you'd see people take it out there for nightlife, too.
St. Charles has never wanted Metrolink before, but I feel it'd be pretty silly to throw away a chance at having historic Main Street and the $2 billion in new riverfront developments a mere ten to fifteen minutes away by train from the region's airport.
If something like this ever happened, I wonder if St. Louis County might try to create some kind of riverfront district across the river from St. Charles, perhaps in Earth City.
St. Charles has never wanted Metrolink before, but I feel it'd be pretty silly to throw away a chance at having historic Main Street and the $2 billion in new riverfront developments a mere ten to fifteen minutes away by train from the region's airport.
If something like this ever happened, I wonder if St. Louis County might try to create some kind of riverfront district across the river from St. Charles, perhaps in Earth City.
Apple vacations released some of their 2023 schedule. Frontier will continue to run their Punta Cana and Cancun flights
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United not bringing back flights to Myrtle Beach and Hilton Head due to pilot shortage:
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... -2021.html
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... -2021.html
They aren’t bring back any of the flights that started last year to those 2. So it isn’t just us.TheWayoftheArch_V2.0 wrote: ↑Mar 24, 2022United not bringing back flights to Myrtle Beach and Hilton Head due to pilot shortage:
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... -2021.html
I posted this on FB as well. A side by side comparison of the same story as treated by Cleveland media vs. our local cancer.
Note the choice of pull out quote to immediately follow the headline.
Note the choice of pull out quote to immediately follow the headline.
Well this is gonna throw people:AJ1289 wrote: ↑Mar 13, 2022Has anyone filled out the survey that the airport is asking for the public? If not, here's the link in case anyone is interested in filling this out: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/5M53F7Z
It's only open till the end of the month, so spread the word to fellow travelers and family/friends who would be interested in this!
"2. Rank by importance from 1 to 6, with 1 being the least and 6 the most, an airport terminal’s most critical airline-based feature for your convenience:"
So what you put as #1 will be the least important. I know reading is important, but that's backwards as heck.
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Are you often confused when someone says "on a scale of 1 to 10"?bprop wrote: ↑Mar 25, 2022Well this is gonna throw people:AJ1289 wrote: ↑Mar 13, 2022Has anyone filled out the survey that the airport is asking for the public? If not, here's the link in case anyone is interested in filling this out: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/5M53F7Z
It's only open till the end of the month, so spread the word to fellow travelers and family/friends who would be interested in this!
"2. Rank by importance from 1 to 6, with 1 being the least and 6 the most, an airport terminal’s most critical airline-based feature for your convenience:"
So what you put as #1 will be the least important. I know reading is important, but that's backwards as heck.
Curious what point you’re trying to make…the media (with few exceptions like Richard Quest, Phil Lebeau, Susan Carey) is horrible at covering airlines particularly when covering commercial aspects.shadrach wrote: ↑Mar 24, 2022I posted this on FB as well. A side by side comparison of the same story as treated by Cleveland media vs. our local cancer.
Note the choice of pull out quote to immediately follow the headline.
Clearly the tone from KSDK is more negative but not sure what you’re trying to prove here. UA had surplus GoJet/G7 capacity last summer and in an effort to chase revenue and respond to customer demand they added service from a former hub where they retain an elevated concentration of MileagePlus and Chase cardholders. In the case of STL it’s an operating base for G7 so it was a tactical revenue chasing decision. With business travel slowly returning, the aircraft are back on their more usual routes - business heavy regional routes from EWR/IAD/ORD as the high CASM CRJ550 LOPA (layout of passenger accommodations) was intended. Not much different than AA no longer running multiple daily 777s MIA-BOS-MIA and running MIA-JFK/LAX wholly on 772/77W as was the case last summer.
Agree and share your interest for the community and local media
to be supportive of the airport and air service development but it don’t think it’s fair to characterize a sloppy headline someone working for KSDK hastily slapped on a wire obtained article as an indictment of the airport and great strides Rhoda, Brian and their teams have made in recent years. As has been established here, UA has never been significant in STL. Maybe if LH proves successful that changes but right now they have much bigger fish to fry so I wouldn’t read too much into headlines like this.
to be supportive of the airport and air service development but it don’t think it’s fair to characterize a sloppy headline someone working for KSDK hastily slapped on a wire obtained article as an indictment of the airport and great strides Rhoda, Brian and their teams have made in recent years. As has been established here, UA has never been significant in STL. Maybe if LH proves successful that changes but right now they have much bigger fish to fry so I wouldn’t read too much into headlines like this.