^ Was thinking about the food court idea too o what to do with any future D reopening. Since any new section might have issues of amenities being rather far away from those gates. Another issue is that all of the gates going down D may not be usable due to they were designed for planes with smaller wingspans, less passengers, and less crowded planes which would make for tight spaces there. So any unused gates that have to exist due to that could be in use for amenities if there is a shortage of such space there from how it was used in the past.
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^ I could definitely see one or more of the existing waiting areas being converted into retail/dining space (à la Concourse A) as more gates open and it becomes a huff even to the potential 'food court'. Combine that with at least one more area like the "Stella Artois bar" thing across from the new E gates, and I'd wager that's a respectable level of services in D. Still a tight squeeze, but it should be more than manageable (especially since it probably still wouldn't be as crowded as it once was).
Just returned from a STL-RSW-STL flight and we were supposed to use E38 on the outbound on Sat night. I say supposed because they had a problem with the jetway and we were moved to another gate after a delay.
Before the move to the new gate however, we were at the very end of the terminal next to E40 which had a flight departing to EWR right around the same time our flight was supposed to depart. The issue we had is that practically every seat around those two gates were in use and a bunch of us were forced to stand around the people movers that end at the temporary wooden wall where the rest of D is shuttered.
Just about all the gates in the old D were in use when I was departing and that part of the terminal was more crowded than the main part of E so I am glad it is getting a lot of traffic again. That said, I hope they add a few more conveniences down there to enhance the experience.
Maybe more big red rocker chairs?
Before the move to the new gate however, we were at the very end of the terminal next to E40 which had a flight departing to EWR right around the same time our flight was supposed to depart. The issue we had is that practically every seat around those two gates were in use and a bunch of us were forced to stand around the people movers that end at the temporary wooden wall where the rest of D is shuttered.
Just about all the gates in the old D were in use when I was departing and that part of the terminal was more crowded than the main part of E so I am glad it is getting a lot of traffic again. That said, I hope they add a few more conveniences down there to enhance the experience.
Maybe more big red rocker chairs?
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^Hard to believe it was only a year ago that I was sitting down there in the late morning taking pictures of F-15s dancing over the field and assorted departing flights because it was quiet and the area around my own gate in the original part of E was so darned crowded. Even when I got back in the evening to E-38 things were busy around the international gates at the bend, but not around E-38/40. That place is heating up fast, and I'm glad to see it.
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October numbers are out.
YTD passengers at 13,063,431, up 6.1% over last year. October passengers also up 6.3% to 1,397,283. Operations are still down (probably still the aftereffects of the EAS losses), but cargo really shot up last month: up 14.7% over last October and now up to a 4.1% YTD increase over last year.
Good to see the continued growth at STL.
YTD passengers at 13,063,431, up 6.1% over last year. October passengers also up 6.3% to 1,397,283. Operations are still down (probably still the aftereffects of the EAS losses), but cargo really shot up last month: up 14.7% over last October and now up to a 4.1% YTD increase over last year.
Good to see the continued growth at STL.
Fantastic news. Still on pace to have its best year since '03. Great to see Lambert continuing to perform.
Amazing to think that the current infrastructure (including a couple mothballed portions) supported 2x as many travelers as will pass through Lambert this year. '99 and '00 must have been a mob scene.
Amazing to think that the current infrastructure (including a couple mothballed portions) supported 2x as many travelers as will pass through Lambert this year. '99 and '00 must have been a mob scene.
Icelandair has called off it's purchase of WOW.
https://www.stltoday.com/business/local ... 0cfc8.html
https://www.stltoday.com/business/local ... 0cfc8.html
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And Indigo Partners, who control Frontier, are now looking to buy WOW. Dizzy yet? (Or should I say Wizzy, given that they also have a stake in Wizz Air. And Volaris, for that matter.)
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... ir-454034/
Not sure what that really means. Indigo has a history of turning around troubled airlines. There was, at one time, an airline called Indigo, but I can't find a connection. Sounds like Indigo previously turned around Spirit. You have to love the way airlines come and go only to be reborn under completely different ownership and in competition with their former selves. Will be interesting to see what they do with WOW. That's surely an interesting portfolio. (They've got almost half of the pieces of what had been Frank Lorenzo's short lived but nevertheless impressive empire. With the other half being Eastern and Apple Vacations.)
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... ir-454034/
Not sure what that really means. Indigo has a history of turning around troubled airlines. There was, at one time, an airline called Indigo, but I can't find a connection. Sounds like Indigo previously turned around Spirit. You have to love the way airlines come and go only to be reborn under completely different ownership and in competition with their former selves. Will be interesting to see what they do with WOW. That's surely an interesting portfolio. (They've got almost half of the pieces of what had been Frank Lorenzo's short lived but nevertheless impressive empire. With the other half being Eastern and Apple Vacations.)
Something I thought about today. The E&A has to approve the privatization plan. Which pretty much means if someone beats out Reed for the BOA Pres they can kill it. That adds another wrinkle to things.
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Not entirely on topic, but I found it highly amusing that someone went through the trouble of vandalizing the airport's Wiki page with this tidbit:
"{{asof|2018|10}}, [[Southwest Airlines]] announced once the new single terminal project is completed at Kansas City International Airport, there will be a major service expansion at KCI. A large portion of Southwest’s connecting traffic currently routed through Lambert will be re-routed to KCI, making KCI Southwest’s mid-continent hub."
Seems they added a similar statement to the MCI page as well.
Digging further, I found the edit descriptions about the change for MCI's Wiki page (and Southwest's page as well) amusing as well:
MCI: "KC is a focus city for Southwest, and soon St. Louis won’t be anymore."
WN: "People never think KC is a focus city. It is, and soon St. Louis will not be anymore."
What I might've found most amusing, though, was that two different people edited the statement on MCI's page between the time it was posted and when I deleted it for being unsourced hearsay, but instead of questioning the statement's validity, all they did was fix some of the atrocious grammar of the original.
Boy, it seems some folks in KC are salty. Success breeds jealousy, I suppose. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
"{{asof|2018|10}}, [[Southwest Airlines]] announced once the new single terminal project is completed at Kansas City International Airport, there will be a major service expansion at KCI. A large portion of Southwest’s connecting traffic currently routed through Lambert will be re-routed to KCI, making KCI Southwest’s mid-continent hub."
Seems they added a similar statement to the MCI page as well.
Digging further, I found the edit descriptions about the change for MCI's Wiki page (and Southwest's page as well) amusing as well:
MCI: "KC is a focus city for Southwest, and soon St. Louis won’t be anymore."
WN: "People never think KC is a focus city. It is, and soon St. Louis will not be anymore."
What I might've found most amusing, though, was that two different people edited the statement on MCI's page between the time it was posted and when I deleted it for being unsourced hearsay, but instead of questioning the statement's validity, all they did was fix some of the atrocious grammar of the original.
Boy, it seems some folks in KC are salty. Success breeds jealousy, I suppose. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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NOT SURPRISED! That's why I hate that thread that says "Good Job KC" on this page. I used to live in KC and that place just loves seeing this side of the state lose. Not bloody likely. I hope their project fails hard.Trololzilla wrote: ↑Dec 04, 2018Not entirely on topic, but I found it highly amusing that someone went through the trouble of vandalizing the airport's Wiki page with this tidbit:
"{{asof|2018|10}}, [[Southwest Airlines]] announced once the new single terminal project is completed at Kansas City International Airport, there will be a major service expansion at KCI. A large portion of Southwest’s connecting traffic currently routed through Lambert will be re-routed to KCI, making KCI Southwest’s mid-continent hub."
Seems they added a similar statement to the MCI page as well.
Digging further, I found the edit descriptions about the change for MCI's Wiki page (and Southwest's page as well) amusing as well:
MCI: "KC is a focus city for Southwest, and soon St. Louis won’t be anymore."
WN: "People never think KC is a focus city. It is, and soon St. Louis will not be anymore."
What I might've found most amusing, though, was that two different people edited the statement on MCI's page between the time it was posted and when I deleted it for being unsourced hearsay, but instead of questioning the statement's validity, all they did was fix some of the atrocious grammar of the original.
Boy, it seems some folks in KC are salty. Success breeds jealousy, I suppose. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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That and doesn't the KC forum have a pretty crazy "no STL talk" rule? It's really odd to me that we get people from KC who like to come over and brag / try to spin news to fit a "KC is winning / better" narrative but yet it doesn't happen in the opposite direction. It's like going to a rival sports team's forum to smack talk, but having your own site on lockdown.
None of this should surprise anyone. I'm originally from St. Louis, and love all things St. Louis (being a real city and all), but I've lived in the collective uninspired suburb of KC for the last 11 years. I can tell you with certainty that these folks over here are super salty about St. Louis. I've lived here for 11 years and honestly I don't even bother to tell some of these rubes where I'm from anymore. For those I do tell, the very first question is always, without failure, "which one do you like better?" When I tell people in St. Louis that I live in KC, the response is usually, "oh, nice." This city does nothing better then St. Louis in any way. St. Louis is a FAR bigger business and financial center (10 to 1 on the Fortune 500), it has better mass transit, a better airport, better parks, museums, the food is insanely better, you can actually find dense, walkable historically significant neighborhoods all over St. Louis (even some suburbs), while the oldest part of KC is Westport which has basically been hacked into a quasi-suburban bar district full of chains and little strip-malls, and exceedingly violent crime. Not that STL doesn't struggle with that mightily as well.
My guess is a lot of it is projection. KC struggles with many of the same issues that St. Louis does and they are just as bad at attempting to solve them, probably makes them feel better about their little cowtown to crap on St. Louis for the same stuff.
Anyway lol, let's get back on topic here. Somewhat in line with the 2019 Projections thread, what's the over under on a major transatlantic announcement in 2019 for Lambert? Any chance Southwest further extends into the D Concourse?
My guess is a lot of it is projection. KC struggles with many of the same issues that St. Louis does and they are just as bad at attempting to solve them, probably makes them feel better about their little cowtown to crap on St. Louis for the same stuff.
Anyway lol, let's get back on topic here. Somewhat in line with the 2019 Projections thread, what's the over under on a major transatlantic announcement in 2019 for Lambert? Any chance Southwest further extends into the D Concourse?
I think we could see an announcement next year. Major depends on what you consider major. To get a major carrier the business community needs to get more involved with incentives. We are blowing money on plenty of things (ie Loop Trolley/airport privatization consultants) that even a fraction of that money could secure a flight. I think the only way a flight starts in 2019 is if the airport can get Iceland Air to pick up the route. I know the airport is currently talking to them about it.
D concourse I don't think will open anymore in 2019. I think 2020 would be the earliest. Southwest has 2 gates that don't get much use yet (36/40) so they still have a little capacity left. They were using 40 a fair amount when 18 was closed but it is back open now and 40 isn't being used much again.
Thanks for the info, major for me would be anything above Iceland I suppose. Going off the business community comment, what are the chances that with Bayer purchasing Monsanto a direct to Germany could find it's way back to St. Louis? I also heard an interesting tidbit of information from a longtime AA employee at Lambert that said nearly 100 passengers per day (maybe per week, I can't quite remember) depart St. Louis for Tokyo. Would direct Asian flights ever be a possibility for Lambert?jshank83 wrote: ↑Dec 04, 2018I think we could see an announcement next year. Major depends on what you consider major. To get a major carrier the business community needs to get more involved with incentives. We are blowing money on plenty of things (ie Loop Trolley/airport privatization consultants) that even a fraction of that money could secure a flight. I think the only way a flight starts in 2019 is if the airport can get Iceland Air to pick up the route. I know the airport is currently talking to them about it.
D concourse I don't think will open anymore in 2019. I think 2020 would be the earliest. Southwest has 2 gates that don't get much use yet (36/40) so they still have a little capacity left. They were using 40 a fair amount when 18 was closed but it is back open now and 40 isn't being used much again.
I think airlines like Condor or Aer Lingus could happen. Those don't really need many incentives. Aer Lingus probably could make it work with their new A321LR. I still think BA would come if they get the incentives together, but who knows when that will happen. I am not holding out hope anymore.The Mayor wrote: ↑Dec 04, 2018
Thanks for the info, major for me would be anything above Iceland I suppose. Going off the business community comment, what are the chances that with Bayer purchasing Monsanto a direct to Germany could find it's way back to St. Louis? I also heard an interesting tidbit of information from a longtime AA employee at Lambert that said nearly 100 passengers per day (maybe per week, I can't quite remember) depart St. Louis for Tokyo. Would direct Asian flights ever be a possibility for Lambert?
I am guessing that number for Tokyo was per week. I doubt we will get a flight to Asia in the next 30 years unless air travel radically changes or STL really blows up in population. That or it is some one off charter type setup like PIT is getting. 2 flights for the entire year.
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I motion we implement the same thing on the STL side.chaifetz10 wrote: ↑Dec 04, 2018That and doesn't the KC forum have a pretty crazy "no STL talk" rule? It's really odd to me that we get people from KC who like to come over and brag / try to spin news to fit a "KC is winning / better" narrative but yet it doesn't happen in the opposite direction. It's like going to a rival sports team's forum to smack talk, but having your own site on lockdown.
^I say we just continue to be more mature than our friends to the west.
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Would love to see O&D numbers for Asian destinations. I've not flown American on that route in a while, but I distinctly recall when I flew American to Chicago and then Shanghai there were a surprisingly large number of passengers that took the same routing as me. I'd guess more than half the people in the hold area in St. Louis were Asian American or Asian. Was just an MD-80 and it wasn't full, so that might have been maybe thirty or forty people. And this is anecdotal, dated, and statistically rather meaningless. But it did make me curious. I haven't noticed the same thing flying other carriers, but the connections have generally been less direct. (American to Chicago and then Korean, say. Or Brickyard to SF and then United. Lot of oddball cross-carrier routes. Which happens when you're a cheapskate. Note to self: don't be such a stinking cheapskate.)jshank83 wrote: ↑Dec 04, 2018I am guessing that number for Tokyo was per week. I doubt we will get a flight to Asia in the next 30 years unless air travel radically changes or STL really blows up in population. That or it is some one off charter type setup like PIT is getting. 2 flights for the entire year.
TWA was granted STL to Tokyo in 1999. It would begin the fights 7 days a week. But TWA curtailed their Asia entrance that year due to economics. Would have been a big game changer for TWA and STL IMO.
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/1998/ ... AdsXh5MEwA
As for Kansas City and Southwest. Kansas City is not a Southwest focus city. It never has been. It is sad to see someone so desperate to post something like that to Wikipedia. If that person is reading this... "get a life".
Reposting my Nov. 19th post about MCI and Southwests growth.
I don't think there is anything in play here with STL at all - much less in Nashville or Chicago either. SWA is very strategic about their connection flights - the O&D must almost warrant the connection through the airport as well for them. They work completely different than that of the other US airline hubs - where they filter all of their flights through for connections mostly regardless of the O&D traffic - Southwest doesn't work like that.
Here are gate totals for the 3 airports in the mid continental "hub" area (STL, MDW, BNA - all three are now SWA continental USA Hub/Focus Cities).Southwest in-use gates:
CHICAGO MIDWAY: 22 Gates in use
ST. LOUIS INTERNATIONAL: 17 Gates in use
NASHVILLE INTERNATIONAL: 9 Gates in use
The STL Southwest Advantage/Growth/Expansion and Investment
There is one HUGE key advantage of STL over both Nashville and Midway is STL's Terminal 2 - for Southwest... it is their own concourse "hub" and connection traffic is ideal for them to run through T2 easily without "sharing" a terminal / baggage system / equipment etc... with any other airline. It truly is a "HUB" operation for SWA that they do not have in MDW or BNA.
They can expand at anytime with the need. When the new gates E36-40 were opened in 2017, SWA was using three of them and E40 was just put online this past 2 months. Now with SWA adding an additional 22 flights to STL next year and more international service, the airline may need more gates. The airport's director has already said "anytime" and they will build in another 4 additional gates in their hub concourse (adding D26,24,22,20 into the E dates). According to Jeff Lea, the airport spokesperson, the infrastructure is already there - done - renovations are cheap for the airport and SWA and when SWA says they need more gates - they have them at their disposal and renovations are quick. The airport/Southwest spent LESS than $700,000 to open T2 Concourse E Expansion in 2017. They new additional 4 gates (if needed) expansion will be even less than that according to the airport. My personal expertise (in the travel biz) the new four gate area will be needed in the next year or two and renovations will begin within the year. With SWA current announcement of 22 additional flights in STL by next summer, additional SWA international flight connections and any additional capacity added in the next 12 months, they will need it. STL's T2 is practically "brand new" in itself for travelers convenience and look - the terminal is just 20 years old and completely renovated as of 2015 and looks better than most airports IMO. I hate to say it - but KC's new terminal looks worse aesthetically than T2 anyday. T2 is a nice concourse/terminal IMO and feels like a "big airport" and is crazy busy too.
Video of passengers walking from E36 to E18:
SWA is also investing a huge amount in T2's baggage building expansion this year. The new project comes with a price tag of about $23 million. According to official airport documents, Southwest would take on about $16.3 million of the estimated cost, with the airport covering the rest. The proposed 10,500-square-foot expansion calls for the replacement of two existing baggage carousels and the addition of a third carousel with room for two additional. The new baggage center will also include upgrades to the conveyor belts and other equipment as well as the construction of an inbound baggage drop off facility. Construction will begin in early 2019 and be completed on fast-track for mid year.
SWA would not be spending/investing and adding in STL at these numbers for just a "few years of service in the future". These are huge investments for an airline.
Chicago Midway and Nashville (common use gates) and the New Kansas City
In Midway and Nashville - they have "shared" terminals and systems. The new MCI will be the same - and at this time SWA is willing to add 4 additional gates to KC - that would bring KC's Gates to 1, currently using 8 gates at MCI, and according to the SWA those gates will "come online" as needed over time. The new design allow for "common-use gates"
but will still have a specific "leased amount" per airline. Right now MCI has 31 gates in use/leased and will increase to 39 with the new terminal but not all will be leased to the airlines unless the airlines will increase services. With the four additional gates for SWA - the airport will still have the 4 extra gates for lease to SWA or any of the other airlines servicing KC. That is why they increased it to 39 becausee with SWA's commitment of 4 additional they would be locked in immediately with 35 gates and 35 used with no extra to grow. There is no doubt KC's new terminal will help SWA and connecting flights and more O&D flights (especially to the west and south). This is good for KC as they are stuck right now with what they have
I truly believe the airport will not open until mid/end of 2022 if they begin now (which is not going to happen). This is 4 years from now, that is a long time away in the airline industry.
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/1998/ ... AdsXh5MEwA
As for Kansas City and Southwest. Kansas City is not a Southwest focus city. It never has been. It is sad to see someone so desperate to post something like that to Wikipedia. If that person is reading this... "get a life".
Reposting my Nov. 19th post about MCI and Southwests growth.
I don't think there is anything in play here with STL at all - much less in Nashville or Chicago either. SWA is very strategic about their connection flights - the O&D must almost warrant the connection through the airport as well for them. They work completely different than that of the other US airline hubs - where they filter all of their flights through for connections mostly regardless of the O&D traffic - Southwest doesn't work like that.
Here are gate totals for the 3 airports in the mid continental "hub" area (STL, MDW, BNA - all three are now SWA continental USA Hub/Focus Cities).Southwest in-use gates:
CHICAGO MIDWAY: 22 Gates in use
ST. LOUIS INTERNATIONAL: 17 Gates in use
NASHVILLE INTERNATIONAL: 9 Gates in use
The STL Southwest Advantage/Growth/Expansion and Investment
There is one HUGE key advantage of STL over both Nashville and Midway is STL's Terminal 2 - for Southwest... it is their own concourse "hub" and connection traffic is ideal for them to run through T2 easily without "sharing" a terminal / baggage system / equipment etc... with any other airline. It truly is a "HUB" operation for SWA that they do not have in MDW or BNA.
They can expand at anytime with the need. When the new gates E36-40 were opened in 2017, SWA was using three of them and E40 was just put online this past 2 months. Now with SWA adding an additional 22 flights to STL next year and more international service, the airline may need more gates. The airport's director has already said "anytime" and they will build in another 4 additional gates in their hub concourse (adding D26,24,22,20 into the E dates). According to Jeff Lea, the airport spokesperson, the infrastructure is already there - done - renovations are cheap for the airport and SWA and when SWA says they need more gates - they have them at their disposal and renovations are quick. The airport/Southwest spent LESS than $700,000 to open T2 Concourse E Expansion in 2017. They new additional 4 gates (if needed) expansion will be even less than that according to the airport. My personal expertise (in the travel biz) the new four gate area will be needed in the next year or two and renovations will begin within the year. With SWA current announcement of 22 additional flights in STL by next summer, additional SWA international flight connections and any additional capacity added in the next 12 months, they will need it. STL's T2 is practically "brand new" in itself for travelers convenience and look - the terminal is just 20 years old and completely renovated as of 2015 and looks better than most airports IMO. I hate to say it - but KC's new terminal looks worse aesthetically than T2 anyday. T2 is a nice concourse/terminal IMO and feels like a "big airport" and is crazy busy too.
Video of passengers walking from E36 to E18:
SWA is also investing a huge amount in T2's baggage building expansion this year. The new project comes with a price tag of about $23 million. According to official airport documents, Southwest would take on about $16.3 million of the estimated cost, with the airport covering the rest. The proposed 10,500-square-foot expansion calls for the replacement of two existing baggage carousels and the addition of a third carousel with room for two additional. The new baggage center will also include upgrades to the conveyor belts and other equipment as well as the construction of an inbound baggage drop off facility. Construction will begin in early 2019 and be completed on fast-track for mid year.
SWA would not be spending/investing and adding in STL at these numbers for just a "few years of service in the future". These are huge investments for an airline.
Chicago Midway and Nashville (common use gates) and the New Kansas City
In Midway and Nashville - they have "shared" terminals and systems. The new MCI will be the same - and at this time SWA is willing to add 4 additional gates to KC - that would bring KC's Gates to 1, currently using 8 gates at MCI, and according to the SWA those gates will "come online" as needed over time. The new design allow for "common-use gates"
but will still have a specific "leased amount" per airline. Right now MCI has 31 gates in use/leased and will increase to 39 with the new terminal but not all will be leased to the airlines unless the airlines will increase services. With the four additional gates for SWA - the airport will still have the 4 extra gates for lease to SWA or any of the other airlines servicing KC. That is why they increased it to 39 becausee with SWA's commitment of 4 additional they would be locked in immediately with 35 gates and 35 used with no extra to grow. There is no doubt KC's new terminal will help SWA and connecting flights and more O&D flights (especially to the west and south). This is good for KC as they are stuck right now with what they have
I truly believe the airport will not open until mid/end of 2022 if they begin now (which is not going to happen). This is 4 years from now, that is a long time away in the airline industry.
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Southwest has picked up more gates at Nashville in the last year. Their fact sheet lists them with 14 gates at Nashville now.
The newest dates for MCI (even before this last hiccup) said January 2023. So I think 2022 is long gone now. Might be closer to mid 2023 if everything left goes smoothly.
matguy70 wrote: ↑Dec 05, 2018
CHICAGO MIDWAY: 22 Gates in use
ST. LOUIS INTERNATIONAL: 17 Gates in use
NASHVILLE INTERNATIONAL: 9 Gates in use
I truly believe the airport will not open until mid/end of 2022 if they begin now (which is not going to happen). This is 4 years from now, that is a long time away in the airline industry.
Southwest has picked up more gates at Nashville in the last year. Their fact sheet lists them with 14 gates at Nashville now.
The newest dates for MCI (even before this last hiccup) said January 2023. So I think 2022 is long gone now. Might be closer to mid 2023 if everything left goes smoothly.
Sun Country is going from 2x a week to 4x a week to Fort Myers from mid Feb-early May.
Nice to see them expanding already. Spring break shouldn't be too tough to fill seats.
Nice to see them expanding already. Spring break shouldn't be too tough to fill seats.
Watching the meeting from yesterday.
More opening T2 to T1 talk. Sounds like it still would take Southwest opening more gates but if they do it would open all the way so you could clear security from T1 if your flight was out of one of the old D gates and cut down on your walk.
They are adding a fast service type restaurant somewhere near the bend past E33. No word on the restaurant.
Lots of T2 traffic talk.
For Pick ups, they are going to move the Customs/Boarder police parking to open up some spots there next week.
Option 1 - paving and adding spots just east of T2 in the grass area.
Option 2 - Entire South lane would be cars only
Option 3 - Most of North lane for cars (but some shuttles would still share it)
I am all for option 2. Don't mix shuttles and cars.
Drop offs
They are going to restripe lanes to add 6 or 8 more spots. They are pretty wide now so they would put them to a more normal width.
There is also talk of adding a 3rd turn in lane coming from the west. Adding 2 new garage entrances.
More opening T2 to T1 talk. Sounds like it still would take Southwest opening more gates but if they do it would open all the way so you could clear security from T1 if your flight was out of one of the old D gates and cut down on your walk.
They are adding a fast service type restaurant somewhere near the bend past E33. No word on the restaurant.
Lots of T2 traffic talk.
For Pick ups, they are going to move the Customs/Boarder police parking to open up some spots there next week.
Option 1 - paving and adding spots just east of T2 in the grass area.
Option 2 - Entire South lane would be cars only
Option 3 - Most of North lane for cars (but some shuttles would still share it)
I am all for option 2. Don't mix shuttles and cars.
Drop offs
They are going to restripe lanes to add 6 or 8 more spots. They are pretty wide now so they would put them to a more normal width.
There is also talk of adding a 3rd turn in lane coming from the west. Adding 2 new garage entrances.
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Also saw that the airport's most recent ASQ (satisfaction ranking) score was at 4.19/5, which is the highest it's ever been, so that's good to see.
The discussion about it during the meeting was exhausting. They mulled over wifi for a big chunk of it. It was really weird that they talked about it so much. The entire ASQ discussion was strange, imo.Trololzilla wrote: ↑Dec 07, 2018Also saw that the airport's most recent ASQ (satisfaction ranking) score was at 4.19/5, which is the highest it's ever been, so that's good to see.