If open skies fails... I am not really sure what I want. I think it would be to build as much of the original plan as you can for what you have money for and leave open whatever current concourses you need to to get by. By original plan I mean the plan no one saw that was to 30% this spring and got rejected by the airlines for being to expensive. Then build out the rest as you can afford to. Far from the ideal situation but I think they need to build some kind of terminal, and it not be half ass, to get the ball rolling. T2 is still in decent shape so keeping it around isn't the worst thing. I'd have to hear a firm number on how many gate they can afford before I really have a full opinion. I think you need to find a way to get Southwest a better setup and International arrivals/departures a better setup. The rest of the airlines it isn't as big a deal. So if that means you only build 25-30 gates, then that is what you do, but do it well.symphonicpoet wrote: ↑4:38 AM - Today^Honestly, if all they do is restore and reopen the rest of C and D and mothball A I'd count that a win. Leave the linear single concourse concept for later. It will probably be more expensive in the long run, since nothing will get done until it's truly needed, meaning there will be less space to paly with, but I still feel moving into C would solve a lot of Southwest's problems, and reopening D and closing the A security checkpoint gets most of the desired savings. And if A and B remain vacant, if mothballed, that still means you can do a phased project later.
A key objective was consolidating the support services (ticketing, security, food) to a single entry/terminal to both reduce operational cost and increase vendor revenue. I think no matter what that consolidation has to happen and the entrance has to incorporate the domes.
Shorter linear terminal where A/B/C are now. Remodeled D. Extend linear terminal and close D gradually. My current projection.
Shorter linear terminal where A/B/C are now. Remodeled D. Extend linear terminal and close D gradually. My current projection.
The cost of incorporating the domes into a new terminal vs building from scratch are astronomical. So people also need to be prepared for this part of the plan to also change. Not saying they get demolished or anything but I think they will end up being used for something else, maybe event space, now that costs are way over.addxb2 wrote: ↑5:23 AM - Today. I think no matter what the entrance has to incorporate the domes.
$47 billion to go kill people for no reason and $100+ billion for a completely unnecessary defense contract to line the pockets of Boeing shareholders but no money to actually meaningfully improve our basic infrastructure.
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If they only build 30 to 35 gates in the new consolidated terminal design do we think Southwest would go into the new terminal along with international flights? And then the rest of the airlines would potentially go into Terminal 2 connected by current D terminal?
I can't imagine Southwest wanting to stay in terminal 2. They have concerns with the capacity of the baggage system already so Southwest staying in Terminal 2 leaves some issues on the table that they really want resolved.
I can't imagine Southwest wanting to stay in terminal 2. They have concerns with the capacity of the baggage system already so Southwest staying in Terminal 2 leaves some issues on the table that they really want resolved.