I think a big deal has also been the state of Missouri not expanding medicaid. How many jobs has that cost the St. Louis region? Especially considering that BJC and the other hospital complexes are major job creators for the region. I'm sure the state has held back they creation of tens of thousands of jobs across the state.
Another thing that comes to mind is that recent Kaufman Foundation Report showing StL is a pretty low performer on business start-ups and entreprenuership. Not sure why the overall snail's pace of jobs, but most likely it is a lot of little things combined with seemingly no regional vision and questionable leadership. (And the state has its own problems as well.) Hopefully the positive initiatives underway will speed up job creation and I'm always open to increasing public spending to boost jobs, whether that is boosting sound public infrastructure work, increasing health care or amping up incentives for business attraction.
Medicaid expansion's effect on job growth is an interesting issue, and definitely could be a major factor. However, it looks like Tennessee, Texas, Georgia, North Carolina, and Florida haven't expanded Medicaid, and some of their cities' job growth is going gangbusters.
moorlander wrote:Our weather is not a problem, not the problem.
I can't picture weather as too much of a problem, either now or in the future. Actually if anything weather and climate might be a plus for here compared to other places. Look at how much less problematic winters are here compared to places just a couple hundred miles north.
Also from what I have seen any climate change issues here would be minor compared to most other places. The sea level rising is not applicable here and water availability is no problem.
goat314 wrote:I think St. Louis was a very fragile region and at a critical inflection point even before Ferguson. Ferguson definitely pulled the scab off of major wounds in regards to race, class, economics, civic and governmental dysfunction etc., but now what is more troubling for me is the total lack of movement on the change front. Its been almost a year since Ferguson, but despite the ticket writing bill what else has been done? It seems like there is little recognition from our leaders that St. Louis need BIG change if we ever want to be a competitive region again. I actually think it will get worse before it gets better for one reason..FERGUSON..unfortunately that will likely define us for a generation. Could you imagine a young person (especially an ethnic minority) having to choose between a job offer in St. Louis vs. Indianapolis, Columbus, Minneapolis, Kansas City, Nashville etc. (not to mention Denver, Atlanta, Dallas, Houston Seattle, any major coastal city etc.)? Ferguson alone would be a major deterrent, because the perception would be hmmm...shouId I take a job in a progressive, growing, clean, modern city or a dysfunctional, high crime, racist, cultural backwater, stagnant/declining central city? nd even though that's not the whole story, perception often becomes reality.
The example I keep thinking is Birmingham 1960s. They are still dealing with what happened there in that era and the reactionary tone they did there with Bull Connor's actions.
The other issue is that even if the leaders think that big changes are needed, the people may refuse to change. And if that is the case what can you do? I've seen more than a few examples of a reactionary backlash in people's views entrenching in parochialism and whatnot.
There were other Ferguson "like" situations around the country in the last year. Do New York City, Cleveland, and Baltimore look like "dysfunctional, high crime, racist, cultural backwater, stagnant/declining cities too?
St Louis is clean compared to Nyc and Baltimore. I had family in from Baltimore and New Jersey. ..both originally from Harlem. Both mentioned how clean it looked compared to those cities. We were only talking about run down areas. I agree. I was in Baltimore in March, and I will say there were racial tensions there well before Freddie Gray. Staying in East Baltimore reminded me of North St Louis. Having a nice downtown and harbor saves that city. Only if we had their dt activity. Being on the coast may help their image but in the region Balt people are called "bamas" by DC residents. Different accents and different slang...different mentality.
As for the Downtown comment, it makes Baltimore look more healthy than it is. Then its proximity to DC helps with jobs. Damn the job market here is depressing. Is this the worst times for Stl as far as jobs?
In my opinion, St. Louis' economy is in a state of transition.
After losing tens of thousands of manufacturing jobs before, during and after the recession, St. Louis is still recovering.
Globalization and the recession hit St. Louis hard.
Detroit is pushing ahead in jobs numbers because the automobile industry has been steadily recovering.
Although some auto jobs are recovering in the STL region, with the exception of GM in Wentzville and Toyota in Troy, the local auto industry was practically gutted.
Not to mention all of the job losses due to acquisitions and mergers (May, TWA, Solutia, D-K Healthcare, Smurfit-Stone, Boatmen's, Mercantile etc. etc. etc.)
St. Louis' economy has been resilient through it all, but as it transitions/balances to a more knowledge-based/new economy I foresee growth and even a boom within a decade.
Look at World Wide Technology, Express Scripts, Centene, SunEdison - all new economy companies - and all fast growers.
It is my hope for St. Louis to get more companies like them - in addition to snagging and growing old economy firms and jobs.
^ Actaully I was thinking about the idea of job churn. is how different the employment makeup is and that may explain some numbers. And the auto industry thing, I remember somewhere that explains a lot of weak data but does not address why did auto industry job losses disproportionately affected here as opposed to other places.
One other issue I was wondering, is the age breakdown of the population here noticably different than nationnal averages? Since I was thinking could a Pittsburgh effect be partially in play where a disproportanately high number of workers near retirement and that numbers are distorted in part due to retirements.
^ great article, and really makes it clear that St. Louis is at the head of the pack. i do think the St. Louis blurb focused a little too much on Hatchbuck, though, when it should have given more examples of our resources.
^ International Institute is one of our region's best organizations.... they're probably most visible to the public at large with the huge International Festival in Tower Grove Park. Nice to see them get some national publicity; also it is interesting to note how the Rooftop Urban Farming and this program both got the city positive national attention the past week or so.
NY Jets star busted for resisting arrest and driving his Bentley at 143 miles an hour in St. Louis a couple of weeks ago. Oh, and he may have been reaching under his seat for a fully-loaded semi-automatic handgun during the arrest. Sheesh.
Pretty honest and unflattering view of St. Louis in this week's episode of This American Life. Yes, it is St. Charles, but they never say it and I'm not sure it would be much different elsewhere in St. Louis (or most of suburban America). And, they briefly try to make this point. But it is "St. Louis" at the mic, and its not pretty...
The episode is a detailed look at the Normandy students transfering to Francis Howell School District as a proxy for America not wanting to deal with defacto segregated schools and the poor performance of school districts in predominately low-income black neighborhoods.
mattonarsenal wrote:Pretty honest and unflattering view of St. Louis in this week's episode of This American Life. Yes, it is St. Charles, but they never say it and I'm not sure it would be much different elsewhere in St. Louis (or most of suburban America). And, they briefly try to make this point. But it is "St. Louis" at the mic, and its not pretty...
The episode is a detailed look at the Normandy students transfering to Francis Howell School District as a proxy for America not wanting to deal with defacto segregated schools and the poor performance of school districts in predominately low-income black neighborhoods.
That whole meeting at Francis Howell was posted online at the time. Worth a listen if you can find it and have the time. Maybe Stl Public Radio had it?
mattonarsenal wrote:Pretty honest and unflattering view of St. Louis in this week's episode of This American Life. Yes, it is St. Charles, but they never say it and I'm not sure it would be much different elsewhere in St. Louis (or most of suburban America). And, they briefly try to make this point. But it is "St. Louis" at the mic, and its not pretty...
The episode is a detailed look at the Normandy students transfering to Francis Howell School District as a proxy for America not wanting to deal with defacto segregated schools and the poor performance of school districts in predominately low-income black neighborhoods.
Definitely unflattering, but in fairness the narrator/reporter qualifies it all by saying something like "This could have just as easily happened in Boston. Or New York. Or anywhere..."