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I don't know anything about Hispanic heritage but that Victor Espinoza can sure steer a horse!

Every time I go to read the St. Louis paper, which is every day, it seems at least one person got shot the night before.

Today, the Post Dispatch has an article with the title, "West County percussionist fatally shot in St. Louis."

Do you realize how ridiculous this sounds? What can be done about the violence in St. Louis?

KansasCitian wrote:Every time I go to read the St. Louis paper, which is every day, it seems at least one person got shot the night before.

Today, the Post Dispatch has an article with the title, "West County percussionist fatally shot in St. Louis."

Do you realize how ridiculous this sounds? What can be done about the violence in St. Louis?

Reduce poverty

onecity wrote:Enact housing policies that decluster poverty.

It would never be passed, but if all counties that form the greater St. Louis area passed laws requiring that each zip code keep and maintain x amount of public housing units as a percentage of population, it would do wonders.

Kansascitian wrote:

Every time I go to read the St. Louis paper, which is every day, it seems at least one person got shot the night before.

Today, the Post Dispatch has an article with the title, "West County percussionist fatally shot in St. Louis."

Do you realize how ridiculous this sounds? What can be done about the violence in St. Louis?

I think if you were reading stltoday and you are not living in STL, you'd think the City was a war zone. In fact, that is not the case, with the exception of the most-impoverished areas of the metro. Those areas have very bad crime and lots of homicide, while most other areas do not. With the majority of the homicides happening in those areas, I think the rest of the metro area almost has blinders on. We almost say, "oh, another murder" and move on with our lives. While it is a fact that the majority of murders in STL are gang or drug related, there is no excuse for our indifference. I do however, think excessive amount of media in our face, sensationalizes crime. It is always in our face. I am not going to sit here and say that our murder rate is acceptable, but can you imagine if we had all of this media in 1993 when STL had 267 murders? Let's not overlook the fact, that in all likelihood, situations like "the musician from West County"' being murdered, are not random. There's always a story of drugs, a beef, a girl, money, guns, whatever. Very few of the murders in this town are random. STL City has a few bad areas that account for the majority of the murders. Many of the perps and victims know/knew each other. When murders like the 9 year old girl getting killed in a drive-by occurs, then people get outraged. Not when the banger kills the dealer.

Do we have two cultures in this country? Nothing is more segregated in the US than churches. I'm generalizing here, but the few times I've attended African American services, they seemed to focus on forgiving whites and society for what they did to African Americans. And many white churches focus on justifying prosperity with respect to the less fortunate.

The two cultures may be diverging with respect how they view the seriousness of various crimes and the expected response from authorities. Imagine if we lived in today's society, but all the police were operating on rules from Puritan America of 1620. Those police would never understand our tolerance for things they consider threats to civilization, and we would say the Puritan police are throwing us in the stockades unnecessarily. We see culture clashes between Western civilization and Islam cultures now in Europe and Asia over wide differences in what people consider crimes. And even between factions within Islam. Are we headed down a similar path?

How do we integrate our churches and become one society?

Mound City wrote:

onecity wrote:Enact housing policies that decluster poverty.

It would never be passed, but if all counties that form the greater St. Louis area passed laws requiring that each zip code keep and maintain x amount of public housing units as a percentage of population, it would do wonders.

That would have to be imposed from above to do that. Since a lot of areas purposely zone to not do that often for racial reasons. And even if you did it, the people who live in said places may end up getting harassed by other residents and the police as an unwanted element.

^ That is a good point on the transportation issue. Since there would be a transit dependant aspect to this and many places would have problems based on that and is often by design. Yes you could add say more public housing in say west county or St. Charles County but in most cases said people would be screwed if they don't have their own car.

Here's a nice write up in the Houston Chronicle about STL's new "coolness"

http://www.houstonchronicle.com/life/tr ... er-premium

My favorite line: "Locals mainly head to the area for baseball games or to visit Ballpark Village, a corporatized outdoor mall offering overpriced, watery beer."

Hey we made a good click bait list!

The Top 15 Cities For Employee Satisfaction
No. 11 St. Louis, Missouri

St. Louis lies beside the confluence of the Missouri and the Mississippi Rivers where the city’s most recognizable feature is perched.

The Gateway Arch, the centerpiece of the Jefferson National Expansion Memorial, is the tallest man-made monument in the United States. St. Louis is occupied by nearly 40 colleges, universities, and technical schools some of the largest being Washington University in St. Louis, Saint Louis University and University of Missouri–St. Louis.

In addition to its importance as a bio-tech and business center, the rivers and Port of St. Louis play a large role in moving goods throughout the country. The city has numerous museums and attractions within the city including the St. Louis Art Museum, the Missouri History Museum and the Zoo.

St. Louis is the home of the world-renowned Saint Louis Symphony Orchestra which was founded in St. Louis in 1880 and is the second oldest orchestra in the nation.

http://www3.forbes.com/leadership/the-t ... faction/6/

http://www.seattletimes.com/business/bo ... -700-jobs/

The comments about moving to St. Louis are awesome!

^All from the same poster WAINDEPENDENT. It's pretty obvious he's never left PS.

moorlander wrote:^All from the same poster WAINDEPENDENT. It's pretty obvious he's never left PS.

He apparently thinks Seattle, LA, NYC, and Chicago are the only places anyone with a college degree want to live.

^ The guy sounds like the type of douche that keeps me living in places like St. Louis. So I have to pay $2000/mo for a 1 bedroom apartment to live next to this guy? No thank you and imagine many young engineers feel the same. What's even more interesting is that he puts Seattle in the same sentence as LA, NY, and CHI. SEA is a booming and happening place, a bit overpriced in my opinion, but its way closer to St. Louis in stature than the big 3. I would also say that southern boom towns like Atlanta, Houston, and Dallas are on a higher tier. Also the idea that there are not young engineers from St. Louis or the Midwest that wouldn't mind living in a town like St. Louis is a joke. My cousin's husband is 27 years old, works for Boeing, went to college in Chicago, had a chance to stay in Chicago for $10k more a year, but hates Chicago because its "overpriced and pretentious" and just bought a huge house in Bel Nor that would cost a million dollars in Chicago and paid less than $200k. I'd assume he is not the only one in St. Louis with similar sentiment. Why does everyone assume that all millennials want to live in cracker box size apartments in overpriced cities? Many actually want to have nuclear families and a house with a yard.

goat314 wrote:My cousin's husband is 27 years old, works for Boeing, went to college in Chicago, had a chance to stay in Chicago for $10k more a year, but hates Chicago because its "overpriced and pretentious" and just bought a huge house in Bel Nor that would cost a million dollars in Chicago and paid less than $200k. I'd assume he is not the only one in St. Louis with similar sentiment. Why does everyone assume that all millennials want to live in cracker box size apartments in overpriced cities? Many actually want to have nuclear families and a house with a yard.

Not to come off rude, but depending on the opportunity, $10k more per year to work in Chicago is not that much money. Now if it was a $50k difference and he still chose STL, then that would be interesting.

^ of course, I dont take that as rude. I was just pointing out that a lot of times the same position in another city that is dramatically more expensive only nets a 10k-15k raise.

"St. Louis could be this year's ascendant art capital" - Art Basel Magazine:

http://camstl.org/uploads/2015/12/04/ar ... ration.pdf

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The Pulitzer Arts Foundation recently doubled its gallery space with a David Chipperfeld renovation of its Tadao Ando building…

Did this actually happen or are they confusing the SLAM addition with the Pulitzer renovation?

^Yes, they got them mixed up. The Pulitzer's renovation/expansion was overseen by Ando, along with local firm Christner.