St. Louis in the National Media

urban_dilettante · PostDec 22, 2014#6762014-12-22T21:48+00:00

It might be about time for the RFT to shut down. Who is their target audience these days? Seems like Chesterfield. Or maybe Kansas City. They seem to revel in the city's failures.

http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/dailyr ... merica.php

framer · PostDec 23, 2014#6772014-12-23T05:30+00:00

The RFT has been a nihilist rag for as long as I can remember. I never could understand why anyone reads it.

ttricamo · PostDec 23, 2014#6782014-12-23T08:27+00:00

In the early days, my sole purpose for reading it was to get the weekly concert lineups. We're talking about a time period when Mississippi Nights still existed...

threeonefour · PostDec 27, 2014#6792014-12-27T03:16+00:00

framer wrote:The RFT has been a nihilist rag for as long as I can remember. I never could understand why anyone reads it.

I used to pick up the RFT twice a year, for the Restaurant Guide and the Menu of Menus. I don't bother with it at all anymore.

The Huffington Post is the black hole of journalism, too. Who in the hell cares what they think?

southsidepride · PostJan 06, 2015#6802015-01-06T18:11+00:00

http://m.stltoday.com/lifestyles/column ... touch=true

What the what??

MarkHaversham · PostJan 06, 2015#6812015-01-06T18:13+00:00

southsidepride wrote:http://m.stltoday.com/lifestyles/column ... touch=true

What the what??

It said "small cities", so I'm guessing St. Louis was disqualified (I think one of the others was Carmel, IN?). I can't read the article from work but I assume it's low-effort clickbait, as usual for these sorts of lists.

leeharveyawesome · PostJan 07, 2015#6822015-01-07T18:51+00:00

MarkHaversham wrote:
southsidepride wrote:http://m.stltoday.com/lifestyles/column ... touch=true

What the what??
It said "small cities", so I'm guessing St. Louis was disqualified (I think one of the others was Carmel, IN?). I can't read the article from work but I assume it's low-effort clickbait, as usual for these sorts of lists.

I guess we forget as city dwellers- I know I do sometimes - that the County has a million people or about 3 times as many as the City and those people live places and do things too. I've been here 10+ years and I've never been to O'Fallon, MO.

True_dope · PostJan 07, 2015#6832015-01-07T19:03+00:00

http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/04/travel/ex ... ning-2015/ blues museum made it

MarkHaversham · PostJan 07, 2015#6842015-01-07T20:09+00:00

leeharveyawesome wrote:
MarkHaversham wrote:
southsidepride wrote:http://m.stltoday.com/lifestyles/column ... touch=true

What the what??
It said "small cities", so I'm guessing St. Louis was disqualified (I think one of the others was Carmel, IN?). I can't read the article from work but I assume it's low-effort clickbait, as usual for these sorts of lists.
I guess we forget as city dwellers- I know I do sometimes - that the County has a million people or about 3 times as many as the City and those people live places and do things too. I've been here 10+ years and I've never been to O'Fallon, MO.

O'Fallon isn't even in StL County! But yeah, I can't imagine why you'd go there except to visit friends or family who live there, or work at one of those firms (Mastercard). I assume it made the list because they ranked cities by portion of single people in X age bracket + maybe some other criteria and called it a day.

DogtownBnR · PostJan 08, 2015#6852015-01-08T16:20+00:00

http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/opn-c ... a7245120-2

Yael is at it again.... Wrote a second article within a few days, ripping STL and touting KC. While less harsh and more objective, he still proves he has an anti-STL agenda. In case you didn't see the article he wrote just before that... Here you go:

http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/opn-c ... 42984.html

MarkHaversham · PostJan 08, 2015#6862015-01-08T16:52+00:00

Not sure this joker is on-topic for the National Media Thread.

DogtownBnR · PostJan 08, 2015#6872015-01-08T19:05+00:00

^Agree....Probably not, but couldn't think of any other place he even comes close to falling into. He is definitely not a national media person, but he is not from here, so........

PS_ Joker is a nice way to describe him.

wustl_eng · PostJan 08, 2015#6882015-01-08T19:20+00:00

I'm not from here originally so I don't get as defensive as native STL'ers, but man is that guy a hack. You know your sh*t is weak when your lede is "Things aren’t perfect in Kansas City. But at least we don’t live in St. Louis right now." Like a kid in a schoolyard going "nyah nyah!"

Best to ignore it and not give his articles anymore clicks. Gotta give it to the guy, he's good at provoking people for traffic.

MarkHaversham · PostJan 08, 2015#6892015-01-08T20:49+00:00

DogtownBnR wrote:^Agree....Probably not, but couldn't think of any other place he even comes close to falling into. He is definitely not a national media person, but he is not from here, so........

PS_ Joker is a nice way to describe him.

I agree that there's no good place to discuss him on the forum. I'm ok with that.

jcity · PostJan 14, 2015#6902015-01-14T05:52+00:00

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technol ... #slide-1

STL is number 1!
I'd almost be in favor of letting the rams leave and apply all of this money towards the startup scene downtown. That would truly be a game-changer for the city.

Ebsy · PostJan 14, 2015#6912015-01-14T06:55+00:00

I totally agree. Let's pump 500 million into the start up scene over the next 30 years and see what happens.

moorlander · PostJan 14, 2015#6922015-01-14T15:02+00:00

jcity wrote:http://www.popularmechanics.com/technol ... #slide-1

STL is number 1!
I'd almost be in favor of letting the rams leave and apply all of this money towards the startup scene downtown. That would truly be a game-changer for the city.

I'm all for that. Jobs and growth are we StL needs more than anything else.

blzhrpmd2 · PostJan 14, 2015#6932015-01-14T22:31+00:00

Let's poll every other NFL city and ask if they'd trade their team for some other investment opportunity.

MarkHaversham · PostJan 14, 2015#6942015-01-14T22:53+00:00

blzhrpmd2 wrote:Let's poll every other NFL city and ask if they'd trade their team for some other investment opportunity.

Will we poll every non-NFL city and ask if they'd give up investments for an NFL team?

blzhrpmd2 · PostJan 15, 2015#6952015-01-15T00:02+00:00

^Sure. Let's start with STL in 1988 and 1993, Cleveland in 1996, Baltimore in 1985 and 1993, Oakland in 1983, Jacksonville and Charlotte in 1992.

roger wyoming II · PostJan 15, 2015#6962015-01-15T00:40+00:00

^ 20th c. thinking, my friend!

jcity · PostJan 15, 2015#6972015-01-15T03:15+00:00

So, who truly thinks having the rams here is more of a game changer for the region than dumping the same amount into startups?
I'm all for the rams staying, don't get me wrong, and I'd hope a private owner would see the value of either keeping their team here or relocating one to the 20th biggest media market, but do we really have to pay for something that doesn't provide as much of a return?
The most hilarious argument is that a new stadium will "reinvent" downtown. Did the dome?

cteclipse · PostJan 15, 2015#6982015-01-15T16:11+00:00

^ I like the idea of combining a soccer stadium/football stadium/mixed use development around the proposed plan. 8 Home games will not revitalize a downtown, but mixed use potential may

DogtownBnR · PostJan 15, 2015#6992015-01-15T16:36+00:00

http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/opn-c ... a7245120-1

Yael strikes again. I know, I shouldn't post these, but it is almost on a regular basis and getting quite comical. He is on a mission to crush St. Louis and it's reputation.

blzhrpmd2 · PostJan 15, 2015#7002015-01-15T17:04+00:00

Ok, for a recent player let's get San Antonio or London on the phone for a perspective.

Add Houston to that mix above as well. Granted those trends didn't happen recently, but as Stan would say, there's a track record there. Cities want NFL and want professional sports. Call it insecurity or unwise, or whatever, but cities that lose it try desperately to get it back and those with a chance don't take it lightly. If they are truly bad things that drain money and ruin cities, would that many people across history and the country (world?) make those decisions?

If we lose the Rams, there are already rumors and rumblings about how we can get another team. People act like it's either the Rams/NFL, or prudent civic choices. Why can't both coexist? Maybe we can buck the trend and turn our back on the NFL and never look back but it wouldn't be without consequence on some level. I don't see why we can't retain an asset that builds our national and international reputation AND fix what we have in place and continue to develop new areas. Then when the rest of the city is looking better and better, FOX, NBC, ESPN, and CBS can help show it off 8-10x a year to people who potentially will never see it.

I'm not fixated on the project saving St. Louis, I'm fixated on the project saving the Rams. No matter how these guys want to sell the thing, that is what it is really about.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11745 ... eam-london

https://www.facebook.com/SanAntonioTxWeWantANflTeam

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutd ... 05076.html

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