I expect better geography from Europeans.dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑May 02, 2025London Times big fans of STL city
https://www.thetimes.com/travel/inspira ... -6crh8bx57
Hey they got USA right although the placement is odd and makes me think they're labeling Tennesseedweebe wrote: ↑May 02, 2025I expect better geography from Europeans.dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑May 02, 2025London Times big fans of STL city
https://www.thetimes.com/travel/inspira ... -6crh8bx57
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Sister Cities: New Towers Set To Redefine The Skyline of St. Louis
https://chicagoyimby.com/2025/05/sister-cities-new-towers-set-to-redefine-the-skyline-of-st-louis.html
https://chicagoyimby.com/2025/05/sister-cities-new-towers-set-to-redefine-the-skyline-of-st-louis.html
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That made me laugh. At first I was thinking they might have just mistaken us for Louisville, which briefly had me looking to see what they'd mistaken for St. Paul. But then I noticed Dubuque is in Lake Michigan and the Quad Cities are apparently on the Indiana border. I wonder if someone accidentally shifted a label layer right in something like Lightroom and didn't notice.dweebe wrote: ↑May 02, 2025I expect better geography from Europeans.
I am sure hoping all three are built, obviously Albion is the furthest along and the one most likely to be completed. But, the two other projects (Timber Tower and new Millennium Tower) would be so impactful in their respective neighborhoods that I am more excited about the possible changes they would bring.BarryGlick wrote: ↑May 03, 2025Sister Cities: New Towers Set To Redefine The Skyline of St. Louis
https://chicagoyimby.com/2025/05/sister-cities-new-towers-set-to-redefine-the-skyline-of-st-louis.html
wow, who knew?chris fuller wrote: ↑May 04, 2025In the top five domestic travel destinations
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https://blog.google/products/search/202 ... el-trends/courtland wrote:wow, who knew?chris fuller wrote: ↑May 04, 2025In the top five domestic travel destinations
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that's exactly what it looks like. The labels just got shifted 250 miles east.symphonicpoet wrote: ↑May 03, 2025That made me laugh. At first I was thinking they might have just mistaken us for Louisville, which briefly had me looking to see what they'd mistaken for St. Paul. But then I noticed Dubuque is in Lake Michigan and the Quad Cities are apparently on the Indiana border. I wonder if someone accidentally shifted a label layer right in something like Lightroom and didn't notice.dweebe wrote: ↑May 02, 2025I expect better geography from Europeans.
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I bet that google trend got triggered by 60,000 person conference here in July
Best Suburbs in the US to Retire
Maplewood, Mo got a shout in Travel + Leisure, as its been named the best place in the country by Gobankingrates
Maplewood, Mo got a shout in Travel + Leisure, as its been named the best place in the country by Gobankingrates
Yikes, this article is absolutely eviscerating. We sure have our work cut out for us...
New York Times:
What a New American Citizen Learned on Route 66
A writer drove from Chicago to L.A. to see what it truly means to belong to a place.
By Aatish TaseerPhotographs by Andrew Moore
May 15, 2025
Here's the except about St. Louis- ouch:
If Chicago was Bellow’s “dauntless tightrope walker who has never yet fallen,” St. Louis, once its mighty rival — the site of not only the 1904 World’s Fair but also that year’s Summer Olympics — had most definitely fallen. Walking down to the Finnish American architect Eero Saarinen’s Gateway Arch on the Mississippi, lined with stately buildings of 10 and 12 stories in marble and terra cotta, some designed by the great Chicago architect Louis Sullivan, I was unnerved by the air of general desolation. The lights at the Beaux-Arts Orpheum Theater had gone dark indefinitely in 2012. In the center of town, at a statue commemorating the German poet Friedrich Schiller, the city’s destitute had gathered. On the Mississippi, where Mark Twain had once waited upriver for steamships from this city, all boat traffic had fallen silent. “During the summer of 1904,” writes the historian Walter Johnson in “The Broken Heart of America: St. Louis and the Violent History of the United States” (2020), “St. Louis was not simply the hub of the nation’s western empire — it was the center of the world.” But to be here now, 120 years later, was to be reminded of V.S. Naipaul’s description of a Congolese outpost in his 1979 novel, “A Bend in the River”: “a place where the future had come and gone.”
That evening, under low lights at a restaurant called Brasserie by Niche, Mary Jo Bang, a poet and English professor at Washington University and, most notably, a translator of Dante’s “Inferno,” told me of the precise moment when she realized that the St. Louis of her childhood had ceased to exist. She’d grown up in a segregated city in the 1950s. As a young woman, she had wanted nothing so much as to get away. And for years she had, living in London and New York. Then in 2000, a few years before losing her son to drug addiction, Bang found herself tugged as if by an invisible cord back to the city. One day, not long after her return, she suggested to her mother, who was still living in St. Louis, that they go downtown and make a girls’ day of it. “What downtown?” her mother said. “There’s no downtown left.”
At the old Union Station, with its barrel-vaulted ceiling of light pastels, stained glass and gold leaf, they were holding logistics conferences. Once the busiest train station in the world, with some of the first electric lights, it now accommodated a hotel and a few restaurants. “It’s so calm, so deserted,” said a Pakistani attendee from Dubai, unsettled by the quiet of the ghost town beyond.
“I haven’t got a lot of time left,” Bang said with equanimity. “I can’t spend it thinking about St. Louis.” Now in her late 70s, she described her life in her hometown as something akin to a residency. “My life is the life of the mind.”
The next morning, before setting out on the nearly 400-mile drive to Tulsa, I stopped at Lafayette Park in St. Louis to see the statue of Thomas Hart Benton, the early 19th-century U.S. senator from Missouri. In an 1849 speech at a railroad convention, Benton had implored his country to fulfill Christopher Columbus’s dream of reaching India through a westward expansion that would turn the new country into a Pacific power. Westward, ho! The dream had been realized, but St. Louis was left stranded by history. And how strange it was for me, an Indian who had come as a migrant to America, to stand in that park on an October morning before the statue of a dead visionary in a toga, reading this testament to his hubris and rapacity: “There is the East. There is India.”
New York Times:
What a New American Citizen Learned on Route 66
A writer drove from Chicago to L.A. to see what it truly means to belong to a place.
By Aatish TaseerPhotographs by Andrew Moore
May 15, 2025
Here's the except about St. Louis- ouch:
If Chicago was Bellow’s “dauntless tightrope walker who has never yet fallen,” St. Louis, once its mighty rival — the site of not only the 1904 World’s Fair but also that year’s Summer Olympics — had most definitely fallen. Walking down to the Finnish American architect Eero Saarinen’s Gateway Arch on the Mississippi, lined with stately buildings of 10 and 12 stories in marble and terra cotta, some designed by the great Chicago architect Louis Sullivan, I was unnerved by the air of general desolation. The lights at the Beaux-Arts Orpheum Theater had gone dark indefinitely in 2012. In the center of town, at a statue commemorating the German poet Friedrich Schiller, the city’s destitute had gathered. On the Mississippi, where Mark Twain had once waited upriver for steamships from this city, all boat traffic had fallen silent. “During the summer of 1904,” writes the historian Walter Johnson in “The Broken Heart of America: St. Louis and the Violent History of the United States” (2020), “St. Louis was not simply the hub of the nation’s western empire — it was the center of the world.” But to be here now, 120 years later, was to be reminded of V.S. Naipaul’s description of a Congolese outpost in his 1979 novel, “A Bend in the River”: “a place where the future had come and gone.”
That evening, under low lights at a restaurant called Brasserie by Niche, Mary Jo Bang, a poet and English professor at Washington University and, most notably, a translator of Dante’s “Inferno,” told me of the precise moment when she realized that the St. Louis of her childhood had ceased to exist. She’d grown up in a segregated city in the 1950s. As a young woman, she had wanted nothing so much as to get away. And for years she had, living in London and New York. Then in 2000, a few years before losing her son to drug addiction, Bang found herself tugged as if by an invisible cord back to the city. One day, not long after her return, she suggested to her mother, who was still living in St. Louis, that they go downtown and make a girls’ day of it. “What downtown?” her mother said. “There’s no downtown left.”
At the old Union Station, with its barrel-vaulted ceiling of light pastels, stained glass and gold leaf, they were holding logistics conferences. Once the busiest train station in the world, with some of the first electric lights, it now accommodated a hotel and a few restaurants. “It’s so calm, so deserted,” said a Pakistani attendee from Dubai, unsettled by the quiet of the ghost town beyond.
“I haven’t got a lot of time left,” Bang said with equanimity. “I can’t spend it thinking about St. Louis.” Now in her late 70s, she described her life in her hometown as something akin to a residency. “My life is the life of the mind.”
The next morning, before setting out on the nearly 400-mile drive to Tulsa, I stopped at Lafayette Park in St. Louis to see the statue of Thomas Hart Benton, the early 19th-century U.S. senator from Missouri. In an 1849 speech at a railroad convention, Benton had implored his country to fulfill Christopher Columbus’s dream of reaching India through a westward expansion that would turn the new country into a Pacific power. Westward, ho! The dream had been realized, but St. Louis was left stranded by history. And how strange it was for me, an Indian who had come as a migrant to America, to stand in that park on an October morning before the statue of a dead visionary in a toga, reading this testament to his hubris and rapacity: “There is the East. There is India.”
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Wow, really didn’t have anything nice to say I suppose.
Hurts.
The downtown desolate of people is the first impression on everyone. I think everyone here is probably frustrated with it at this point and you can fight it a little, then you’re walking around and it’s amazing how empty it can be. I had one interaction with a tourist asking me about there being nobody downtown and then refusing to go back towards the arch because of that when I suggested a restaurant and that has really stuck with me.
Hurts.
The downtown desolate of people is the first impression on everyone. I think everyone here is probably frustrated with it at this point and you can fight it a little, then you’re walking around and it’s amazing how empty it can be. I had one interaction with a tourist asking me about there being nobody downtown and then refusing to go back towards the arch because of that when I suggested a restaurant and that has really stuck with me.
About a year ago a young woman from Ireland who had a large following came to America to travel Route 66. She and two friends started in LA, ending in Chicago. She had nothing but amazing things to say about St. Louis. She spent an evening just drinking at Hi-Pointe. She said the people in STL were unlike anything she had met the entire trip. Friendly.
My point is, maybe we need to worry less about what pretentious east coast newspapers say and more about influencers who carry 10x the voice in 2025.
My point is, maybe we need to worry less about what pretentious east coast newspapers say and more about influencers who carry 10x the voice in 2025.
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I do see some positive things and videos carrying some viewers from influencers. But if you search St. Louis or see the most viewed/most trending stuff, unfortunately it is of downtown with some kind of scary sound/negative commentary. The latest video is of a small group of people out of it on Wash Ave in the middle of the night. I wish people wouldn’t post stuff like that or give quotes to papers about how bad it is, but Explore St. Louis is fighting an uphill battle.addxb2 wrote: ↑May 16, 2025About a year ago a young woman from Ireland who had a large following came to America to travel Route 66. She and two friends started in LA, ending in Chicago. She had nothing but amazing things to say about St. Louis. She spent an evening just drinking at Hi-Pointe. She said the people in STL were unlike anything she had met the entire trip. Friendly.
My point is, maybe we need to worry less about what pretentious east coast newspapers say and more about influencers who carry 10x the voice in 2025.
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The increased popularity of these cruises should be a call to the City & region to get our front porch & front yard cleaned up. I know Gateway South & Millennium are in the works, but we've got to find a way to get the north riverfront, Landing & LKS Blvd fixed up & made into the grand welcome mat it should be. I would love to see local leaders put more effort into this.dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑May 02, 2025London Times big fans of STL city
https://www.thetimes.com/travel/inspira ... -6crh8bx57
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Yikes it’s almost like we’ve lost 70% of our population in 70 years. What did they expect to find?
I suppose I’m expected to yearn to live in NY where no one can afford to live by themselves let alone have a family?
I suppose I’m expected to yearn to live in NY where no one can afford to live by themselves let alone have a family?
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HOW ABOUT SOME GOOD NEWS!!
A new show in Saint Louis promises a rare combination of art, cars and elegant fashion
‘Roaring: Art, Fashion, and the Automobile in France, 1918-1939’ celebrates a golden age of creativity, showcasing ten unique cars alongside the cream of the era’s style
https://www.wallpaper.com/transportation/roaring-art-fashion-and-the-automobile-saint-louis-exhibition
A new show in Saint Louis promises a rare combination of art, cars and elegant fashion
‘Roaring: Art, Fashion, and the Automobile in France, 1918-1939’ celebrates a golden age of creativity, showcasing ten unique cars alongside the cream of the era’s style
https://www.wallpaper.com/transportation/roaring-art-fashion-and-the-automobile-saint-louis-exhibition
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Good to see folks from other English speaking countries on the Viking cruise here. Even if only a few. When my wife and I did the Rhine on Viking, there were some New Zealanders and Australians on our cruise. Why are Europeans not very interested in US river cruising? We also did Snake and Columbia rivers last year. Didn’t run into any non-Americans then.DogtownBnR wrote:The increased popularity of these cruises should be a call to the City & region to get our front porch & front yard cleaned up. I know Gateway South & Millennium are in the works, but we've got to find a way to get the north riverfront, Landing & LKS Blvd fixed up & made into the grand welcome mat it should be. I would love to see local leaders put more effort into this.dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑May 02, 2025London Times big fans of STL city
https://www.thetimes.com/travel/inspira ... -6crh8bx57
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St. Louis shows how cities can break the “urban doom loop”
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/st-louis-shows-how-cities-can-break-the-urban-doom-loop/?trk=feed_main-feed-card_feed-article-content
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/st-louis-shows-how-cities-can-break-the-urban-doom-loop/?trk=feed_main-feed-card_feed-article-content
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Major plug for The Muny in the New York Times...
6/7/2025
Hot, Big and Buggy: Why Do Broadway Actors Love to Work Summers Here?
The nearly 11,000-seat Muny in St. Louis is receiving the regional theater Tony Award. This week it began preparing to open its 107th season with “Bring It On.”
6/7/2025
Hot, Big and Buggy: Why Do Broadway Actors Love to Work Summers Here?
The nearly 11,000-seat Muny in St. Louis is receiving the regional theater Tony Award. This week it began preparing to open its 107th season with “Bring It On.”
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And a second one too.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/07/thea ... ticleShare
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