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PostMay 02, 2022#2426

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I agree that overall it made the city look pretty good- I just wish the producers would cool it with the coastal bias. It’s so overdone. And who would characterize Des Peres as “small town” anyway? Personal gripes aside, I think Nikki Glaser is cool and St. Louis is lucky to have her.
If she was from Chicago they’d still pile on the coastal bias/“going home to the small town” crap.

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PostMay 02, 2022#2427

My comment about Des Peres was just a little joke haha.

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PostMay 04, 2022#2428

This Is the Next Great Food City, According to Our Readers
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/next-best-food-city-according-145136066.html

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PostMay 13, 2022#2429

Pretty interesting article about the Spanish Pavilion from untapped new york:

1964 NYC WORLD’S FAIR BUILDING IS NOW A PIZZA PLACE IN ST. LOUIS

https://untappedcities.com/2020/08/06/1 ... MWjMuDEGwY


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PostJun 16, 2022#2431

Citynerd has St. Louis in the top 10 for being underrated for livability and walkability:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qzePci2N6E

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PostJun 16, 2022#2432

CityNerd also recently ranked Chicago's Grant Park and Philly's Fairmount Park higher that Forest Park in the Best Urban Parks list. I almost threw my laptop out the window. He said he didn't like the golf course, which I'll take as evidence he's never been to Forest Park. The fact that Philly's Fairmount Park made the list at all means he's probably never been there either.

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PostJun 16, 2022#2433

Example of the by product of positive national media coverage, this is just one of countless examples you see on Instagram of people loving their time here (from Providence, RI)
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PostJun 17, 2022#2434

aprice wrote:
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CityNerd also recently ranked Chicago's Grant Park and Philly's Fairmount Park higher that Forest Park in the Best Urban Parks list. I almost threw my laptop out the window. He said he didn't like the golf course, which I'll take as evidence he's never been to Forest Park. The fact that Philly's Fairmount Park made the list at all means he's probably never been there either.
Yeah, he usually annoys me somehow, even though I should like his channel. But I'll kind of forgive him this once. I have this odd feeling he's from Chicago.

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PostJun 17, 2022#2435

Not to defend him, but while Forest Park has great amenities and cultural attractions from an outside perspective it really doesn't connect very well with the surrounding neighborhoods. Like there's a highway on one side, a row of mansions that are disconnected from the adjacent neighborhoods on another, and a really wide and busy boulevard on the other. Even Skinker which is actually more neighborhood-oriented is still pretty wide and daunting to cross. That being said I haven't been to any of the other parks on the list so I really don't know how they all stack up.

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PostJun 17, 2022#2436

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Yeah, he usually annoys me somehow, even though I should like his channel. But I'll kind of forgive him this once. I have this odd feeling he's from Chicago.
Meh, all YouTube architecture / urbanists annoy me to some extent. I think that comes with the territory of being knowledgeable on something and then trying to watch a youtube video geared toward a more general audience. I can't stand NotJustBikes, which usually brings out the pitchforks b/c people apparently worship that channel.

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PostJun 17, 2022#2437

With those channels, more Not Just Bikes specifically, I really dislike the pessimism they have about the US's future of city planning. Like one of my classmates who likes not just bikes wouldn't stop trying to tell me that you can't go anywhere without a car in Saint Louis despite me telling him that he's ignoring and dismissing the city entirely. (He lives in Ladue, not surprising). When trying to relate my experience actually living in an urban walkable neighborhood in a US city it's difficult because it's obvious he panders to people who have lived in the suburbs their whole lives. I think it's great that criticisms of car dependency have entered the mainstream but they tend to push a very nihilistic view of things, and not a rebuild our cities view.

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PostJun 17, 2022#2438

The nail in the coffin for me was the video about "corner stores" e.g. small grocery stores / bodegas, where he spends 10 of 11 minutes saying "north america has no walkable corner stores". Then at the very end says "some parts of north america are walkable and have markets geared toward pedestrians". Meanwhile, I have driven to a grocery store since early 2013.

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PostJun 17, 2022#2439

I don't mind Not Just Bikes mostly because I think his discussion of bike infrastructure design is pretty good and I entirely agree with his assessment of highway suburbs. As a kid who grew up in a quite walkable corner of Bevo/Southtown and got moved to Crestwood his analysis resonates. That said, he can certainly come across as overly pessimistic about North America generally and the United States in particular.

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PostJun 18, 2022#2440

Which one about corner stores are you referring to?
Here's one by City Beautiful that's pretty good


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PostJun 20, 2022#2441

aprice wrote:
Jun 16, 2022
CityNerd also recently ranked Chicago's Grant Park and Philly's Fairmount Park higher that Forest Park in the Best Urban Parks list. I almost threw my laptop out the window. He said he didn't like the golf course, which I'll take as evidence he's never been to Forest Park. The fact that Philly's Fairmount Park made the list at all means he's probably never been there either.
Eh, he's a pretty big supporter of St. Louis on his channel so I'll give him a pass. I disagree with his assessment about the golf courses, though. I think they're an asset.

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PostJun 20, 2022#2442

Grant Park? There are there are 14 lanes of N/S traffics and 20 lanes of east west traffic, and like 4-5 RR tracks through the park.

No to mention the park itself is highly paved and feels more like a garden than a park in many places.

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PostJun 23, 2022#2443

risk factor STL  Relatively Moderate https://hazards.fema.gov/nri/map

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PostJun 23, 2022#2444

^ This isn’t national news.

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PostJun 30, 2022#2445

another city nerd video. He talks about Metrolink in it. He uses ridership per mile of the track as a metric. I wonder if the Metrolink is dragged down because the parts of Illinois it runs through that are very rural, but his criticisms of adjacent station land use seem justified. I also wonder how our stats would change on this metric if we built N/S. I'm curious about all of your thoughts about it.

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PostJun 30, 2022#2446

Not to go far off topic but to answer your question on what North-South Metro would bring to the table in terms, I think it'll help greatly.

The revised alignment (straight down Jefferson) will likely see high ridership once you get just south of Delmar and onward to Chippewa (southern terminus). The remainder of the route north of Delmar needs to build up some to increase numbers on that part of the route, but the remainder would be fine. You can also successfully argue that having the North-South line crossover into downtown as it was originally planned to do will really help with ridership numbers. But for now, say the Jefferson-only alignment happens. The numbers will still be impressive (I think). Better than what MetroLink originally was (using old rail right of way and then expanded out to farmland). 

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PostJun 30, 2022#2447

Lol, always fun watching videos of a guy whose primary research is Google earth screenshots.

To be fair, I didn’t even bother to watch this one, since I’ve seen so much of his other bull sh*t.

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PostJul 01, 2022#2448

^There's something about his lazy smugness that drives me nuts. Even if his research were grade-A top shelf stuff, his presentation is abysmal. And so much of his commentary is so negative without really discussing what you could do to fix a problem. Of all the urbanist YouTube channels I've watched his is easily the most unpleasant. I skip through WTYP less and their shows are an hour and a half of off-topic jokes and a half hour of commentary on generally well studied problems I've read about a dozen other places. (To be fair, the jokes are usually pretty good. And they like trains, so there is that.) City Nerd is the click-bait top ten list crap of urbanism.

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PostJul 02, 2022#2450

^I thought the Onion was fake news? That's more or less accurate.

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