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PostDec 06, 2012#151

NPR's Fresh Air actually did a segment on this yesterday. It talks specifically about Kansas and Missouri. You can listen to it here.

http://www.npr.org/2012/12/05/166489199 ... te-welfare

On a related issue, they talked about Texas's and Gov. Perry's successes in luring businesses to their state. Instead of going after an entire corporation, they focus on companies looking to expand and offer incentives to that company for expanding in their state. I thought it was pretty interesting and a method that MO should follow.

With St. Louis's low cost of living, you think it would relatively cheap for a company to expand here. Now its not a growing area necessarily, but we do have certain industries. Offer state tax incentives for businesses that expand here, and I think we could see some success. Especially with data centers and life sciences.

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PostDec 06, 2012#152

Hell, AMC got $36 million to move to the Kansas side and create not one single new job. And were then bought out by a foriegn company less than six months later. Kansas is out of control when it comes to corporate welfare. it's one thing if you're pulling in companies from Tulsa or Chicago or something, but millions of dollars to create a net of zero jobs in the metro is short sighted, and if I were a Kansas taxpayer I'd be a damn tizzy over it.

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PostDec 06, 2012#153

The California exodus may accelerate after the passage of Prop 30 last month. The marginal rate would stand at 52%, highest in the nation. Hopefully, the mayor's office is working the phones.

http://blogs.sacbee.com/capitolalertlat ... -rate.html

I'm not a fan of cutting special deals and other forms of bribery. The AMC example is an outrage.

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PostDec 06, 2012#154

Hudson's Bay Co. Relocated jobs to Downtown St. Louis from Toronto

Hudson’s Bay Co., one of Canada’s biggest retailers, said today it is about to present its expanded information technology services operation in downtown St. Louis.

The relocation from Toronto means the addition of more than 130 jobs at the company's IT center at 500 North Broadway, HBC said. Hudson's Bay Co. already has its Lord & Taylor IT center in the building.

Full story:
http://www.stltoday.com/business/column ... a1f9c.html

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PostDec 06, 2012#155

matguy70 wrote:Hudson's Bay Co. Relocated jobs to Downtown St. Louis from Toronto

Hudson’s Bay Co., one of Canada’s biggest retailers, said today it is about to present its expanded information technology services operation in downtown St. Louis.

The relocation from Toronto means the addition of more than 130 jobs at the company's IT center at 500 North Broadway, HBC said. Hudson's Bay Co. already has its Lord & Taylor IT center in the building.

Full story:
http://www.stltoday.com/business/column ... a1f9c.html
Yup L&T has been hiring BAs and what not out the wazoo. Last time I looked at Indeed there were more than a dozen. I'm surprised they have them listed as L&T and not Hudson's Bay though.

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PostDec 07, 2012#156

dredger wrote:So LMI move people here or people move to Kansas City or does the State of Kansas swoop in with a big tax break deal?

Gone Corportate, Couldn't help think of the border wars as soon as I got to Kansas City in the article and the PD article in the business section today. Kansas spending Missouri two to one according to article and wonder how long it took Kansas State Officials to call LMI this morning.

Missouri company gets $5 million to move 1 mile

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/miss ... 63946.html
Dredger: I had read that article as well, and was pretty disgusted myself. That said, these are entirely coincidental occurences. LMI Aerospace's acquisition of Valent Aerostructures was done exclusively as a business deal between private sector entities. In fact, Valent's HQ is in Kansas City, MO, so the State of Kansas was totally not involved. Going forward, it can be anticipated that the STL Metro Area will recognize an increase in employment from the accrual of KC-based employees of Valent Aerostructures moving to the LMI Aerospace HQ.

That it did not involve the MO-KS Border War doesn't take away from the significance of the Border War itself. But, it has nothing to do with STL-related mergers or acquisitions. Corporate subsidies for businesses, including subsidies available from the State of Missouri and the MO-KS Border War... could better be discussed in a new thread?

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^ Agree that the Missouri/Kansas border was has no bearing on the acquisition itself and this pretty much falls in line with you win some and you lose as a community, Ralcorp being a recent you will lose one for the St. Louis region.

However, just curious on what the thoughts are on the impacts afterwareds if any considering what is going on between Kansas/Missouri Certianly their is impacts after a acquisition being discussed on this thread .....

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PostDec 07, 2012#158

insomniacafe wrote:Hell, AMC got $36 million to move to the Kansas side and create not one single new job. And were then bought out by a foriegn company less than six months later. Kansas is out of control when it comes to corporate welfare. it's one thing if you're pulling in companies from Tulsa or Chicago or something, but millions of dollars to create a net of zero jobs in the metro is short sighted, and if I were a Kansas taxpayer I'd be a damn tizzy over it.
Kansas is going to be a wasteland before too long if they keep it up. KC Bus Journal just had an article where Governor Brownback desperately needs help from the legislature to cover the gap from his huge income tax reduction. Fools.

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PostDec 07, 2012#159

Unfortunately, Kansas City metro also lost this week Layne Christensen - a $1-billion drilling firm.

Layne Christensen is moving from suburban Mission Woods, Kansas to The Woodlands, Texas (suburban Houston).

States - particularly Missouri - need to look into what Texas is doing to lure firms from around the country to Dallas and Houston.

Missouri must learn to compete harder.

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PostDec 07, 2012#160

stlcardsblues1989 posted this nytimes link in another section that shows the amount states spend on incentives:
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012 ... ml?hp#home

Missouri spends 96 million a year on incentives, whereas Texas spends 19 billion.

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PostDec 08, 2012#161

pat wrote:On a related issue, they talked about Texas's and Gov. Perry's successes in luring businesses to their state. Instead of going after an entire corporation, they focus on companies looking to expand and offer incentives to that company for expanding in their state. I thought it was pretty interesting and a method that MO should follow.

With St. Louis's low cost of living, you think it would relatively cheap for a company to expand here. Now its not a growing area necessarily, but we do have certain industries. Offer state tax incentives for businesses that expand here, and I think we could see some success. Especially with data centers and life sciences.
I missed this posting earlier. While St. Louis is no Houston, St. Louis is also a big center for energy.

Unfortunately, there is no concerted effort, or so it seems, by local leaders to promote St. Louis as a "Center for Energy".

Just as the financial services community in St. Louis is gearing up to lure more jobs to St. Louis by promoting current assets and talent, I believe if St. Louis and the RCGA promoted St. Louis as a "diversified" energy center, the region could potentially attract more energy sector jobs.

Diversified Energy and Suppliers
Emerson Electric, $24-billion firm
Aegion, $1-billion
Belden
Graybar
CooperBussman

Coal & Electric Companies
Ameren Energy, $8-billion firm
Peabody Energy, $7-billion firm
Arch Coal, $4-billion firm
Patriot Coal, $3-billion firm
Foresight Energy, $600-million firm
Armstrong Energy, $250-million firm

Oil & Gas
The LaClede Group (Note: Never understood why this company hasn't grown through acquistions)
Apex Oil, $3.6-billion
Center Oil, $4.5-billion

Solar
MEMC/SunEdison (Monsanto Electronic Materials Corporation), $2.7-billion firm

Alternative Energy
Abengoa Bioenergy (U.S. Headquarters)
Future Fuel

Water
American Water Missouri (St. Louis)
American Water Illinois (Belleville)

Miscellaneous
Schneider Electric USA Technology Center


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PostDec 08, 2012#162

flipz wrote:Missouri spends 96 million a year on incentives, whereas Texas spends 19 billion.
How can Texas spend 200x more on incentives with a GDP 5x and population 4.5x the size of Missouri's? Are they running a massive deficit? Something doesn't add up.

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PostDec 08, 2012#163

http://www.sfgate.com/technology/dotcom ... 097531.php

Taken from the article, as the author points out that "...I'm not arguing that this is entirely sufficient to compete with a supposedly free-market state eager to subsidize private industry. I'm also not saying California can't lose these advantages over time, particularly as a city like Austin builds up a strong tech workforce of its own."
But I am suggesting that the appropriate path for the Bay Area is to build on its strengths, not sacrifice them in an effort to beat a state like Texas at its own low-tax game.
I'd like to see St. Louis, and MO at large, play on its growing strength in the Bio field, and energy, and finance. Of course, the pros and cons are far more nuanced than what is quoted above, I think that "race to the bottom" should be kept in mind.

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PostDec 12, 2012#164

Bissinger's acquires Bochner Chocolates of Iowa
Sources:
http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/morn ... a=handmark
http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/ ... 75082.html

STL can recognize an increase in net employment by 40 new workers. It is being considered a strategic acquisition, noting how Bochner is known for its use of advanced technologies manufacturing processes. With this acquisition, it can be anticipated that Bissinger's will be looking to expand their total facilities, i.e. build a new building or rent more space.

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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... business_f

Great news. This trend will continue. I personally know that more of this will happening soon.

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PostDec 14, 2012#167

leeharveyawesome wrote:I personally know that more of this will happening soon.
Did you say this to gloat or do you plan on sharing?

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PostDec 14, 2012#168

^I wish they had a drawing of what this 12' bear and bull statue will look like

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PostDec 15, 2012#169

Here's a rendering:


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PostDec 16, 2012#170

leeharveyawesome wrote:http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... business_f

Great news. This trend will continue. I personally know that more of this will happening soon.
As in expansion, which most of the local firms have announced as such in one form or another

Or as in a new firm moving back office or IT or making a major presence of some sorts in St Louis. Which could be a possibility. The article notes that their is some 195,000 jobs tied to New York City. NY like San Fran must be an expensive place to do back office and IT.

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PostDec 17, 2012#171

arch city wrote: Oil & Gas
The LaClede Group (Note: Never understood why this company hasn't grown through acquistions)
Apex Oil, $3.6-billion
Center Oil, $4.5-billion
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Laclede nearly doubles customer base with $1 billion deal

http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news ... f-two.html

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PostDec 17, 2012#172

^It's ironic how I mentioned LaClede's lack of growth just a week or so ago, then LaClede goes out and purchases two gas companies. :D

This is their first major purchases in quite some time. I can see LaClede expanding even more.

This is more proof that St. Louis is becoming a true energy center.

I'm jumping the gun a bit, but I hope LaClede becomes large enough to need a new (high-rise) building downtown.

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PostDec 17, 2012#173

Laclede has been planning these acquisitions for maybe 6 months now. Also, their current building is only 70% occupied. So there's plenty of room for them to grow there.

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PostDec 17, 2012#174

"Move or stay, the company will keep its headquarters in the city."
http://www.stltoday.com/business/column ... e6ff1.html

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PostDec 18, 2012#175

Interesting timing.

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