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^ Blackhawks fans aren't supposed to be on these boards!

Sorry, don't take offense. This is all in the name of sports. You're right there are good fans and bad fans. And some in between. Having gone to U of I during the Blackhawks resurgence, I know all kinds, including some who were totally bandwagoners but now legitimately are life-long fans.

I would never call every single fan garbage in truth. But I do not think highly of the Blackhawks fan base on the whole. That doesn't mean good fans like you are nonexistent.

jstriebel wrote: But I do not think highly of the Blackhawks fan base on the whole.

I still take issue with this. I'm not disagreeing at all that there are just turdy BH fans. I agree. It's more the subtext of "I'm not mad because the Hawks are winning, I'm mad that the 'fans' came out of nowhere."

The "fans" coming out of nowhere wouldn't happen without the winning, so in fact, it's the winning that people are upset with.

I can't remember the amount of Cardinal "fans" that I've lived by/worked with/overheard randomly who knew nothing of baseball, but were ultimately die-hards once October came around. It's no different, but just that you're used to (and presumably also a fan of) it. I promise you Cub fans are having/have had this same discussion umpteen times about Cardinal fans.

Imagine if BH fans and the organization as a whole took the "Best Fans in Baseball" B.S. and ACTIVELY promoted it, but with hockey. It would be nauseating to a Blues fan, right?

ricke002 wrote:

jstriebel wrote: But I do not think highly of the Blackhawks fan base on the whole.

I still take issue with this.

You're supposed to be upset by it. Would be weird if you agreed.

I'm not gonna take it back, though.

dweebe wrote:

ricke002 wrote:

dweebe wrote:The only problem I have with Blackhawk fans is how they come to Blues games and parade around in their Stanley Cup gear. We get it, you won the cup and St. Louis never has. Stop coming in to our building with your chest puffed out and expect butterfly kisses.

This guy would like a word.

You forgot the annoying sign guy.

I didn't. I'm just at work and didn't feel like attaching 20 pictures of annoying, holier-than-thou, Cardinal fans.

ricke002 wrote:

jstriebel wrote:The Blues aren't the Cubs of the NHL. That's a comparison that absolutely has to stop (and hopefully not because the Cubs win something).

^What's your logic that they aren't?

Forgot to respond to this. It's pretty simple.

The Cubs have won championships before. The Blues never have.

The Cubs have been downright terrible for most of their history, or at least the last 50 years. It's rare that they can even dream of winning a title.

The Blues on the other hand have been a very good team throughout most of their existence, making the playoffs 39 out of 47 seasons (if my quick counting is accurate).

This isn't a judgement on who's a better franchise or who's "curse" is worse or anything like that. Both are tortured franchises and fanbases. But it's lazy to describe them as each other's equal.

The Maple Leafs are much more like the Cubs than the Blues, and even that is imperfect. I'm not sure that the Blues have a baseball equivalent. (Which is fine because I don't see the purpose in having to find one anyways.)

jstriebel wrote:

ricke002 wrote:

jstriebel wrote:The Blues aren't the Cubs of the NHL. That's a comparison that absolutely has to stop (and hopefully not because the Cubs win something).

^What's your logic that they aren't?

Forgot to respond to this. It's pretty simple.

The Cubs have won championships before. The Blues never have.

The Cubs have been downright terrible for most of their history, or at least the last 50 years. It's rare that they can even dream of winning a title.

The Blues on the other hand have been a very good team throughout most of their existence, making the playoffs 39 out of 47 seasons (if my quick counting is accurate).

This isn't a judgement on who's a better franchise or who's "curse" is worse or anything like that. Both are tortured franchises and fanbases. But it's lazy to describe them as each other's equal.

The Maple Leafs are much more like the Cubs than the Blues, and even that is imperfect. I'm not sure that the Blues have a baseball equivalent. (Which is fine because I don't see the purpose in having to find one anyways.)

Fair points. Blues are probably more like the Astros (around since the 60's--sniffed a championship 1-3x--mostly crappy uniforms--played in food-related stadiums [BTW: how was it not known as the Purina Arena and not the Checkerdome?!?!]--stuck in a division with a wildly successful and historic franchise) than the Cubs, but it's just a very fun way to irritate Blues fans. Leafs-Cubs isn't an apt comparison, either, as the Leafs have won all 11/15/whatever amount of Cups since the Cubs last won their WS.

I dig the blues sweaters

This is blasphemy to most Blues fans, but the best uniforms they ever had were the 90s uniforms. So thoughtful.

Every other uniform they've ever had has been "this is sports, so I guess we should have some stripes." And don't get me wrong. They've all pretty much looked great, especially the 99-05 (or whatever) set and almost the current set as well.

But the actually amount of thoughtful design that was put into the 90s uniforms. I appreciate it so much. I wish we could bring those back but just a little toned down. And probably not with the red (certainly not with so much of it.)

jstriebel wrote:This is blasphemy to most Blues fans, but the best uniforms they ever had were the 90s uniforms. So thoughtful.

Every other uniform they've ever had has been "this is sports, so I guess we should have some stripes." And don't get me wrong. They've all pretty much looked great, especially the 99-05 (or whatever) set and almost the current set as well.

But the actually amount of thoughtful design that was put into the 90s uniforms. I appreciate it so much. I wish we could bring those back but just a little toned down. And probably not with the red (certainly not with so much of it.)

These?





-RBB

I want these back

^That is by far, the most hideous thing I've ever seen. The first time I saw it, I just laughed. I used to wonder, if that thing was ever used, we would have been the laughingstock of the NHL. I think the uniforms from that era were bad enough. The away blue with red stripes, IMO, is the worst Blues jersey ever worn. Unfortunately, every time they show Gretzky in a Blues uniform, he has on that hideous jersey. The jerseys of the late 90's and today, are great. I'm so glad they removed the Reebok stripes up the arms to the pants. So unnecessary!

Also, along with that jersey, almost came "Cool Cat", the proposed mascot.
He makes Louie look cool.




We better continue this on the Blues thread. . .

jmedwick wrote:How sad to watch this season go down the tubes.

This is soooo awesome!

Gotta go look for some 2011 posts now....

DogtownBnR wrote:^That is by far, the most hideous thing I've ever seen. The first time I saw it, I just laughed. I used to wonder, if that thing was ever used, we would have been the laughingstock of the NHL. I think the uniforms from that era were bad enough. The away blue with red stripes, IMO, is the worst Blues jersey ever worn. Unfortunately, every time they show Gretzky in a Blues uniform, he has on that hideous jersey. The jerseys of the late 90's and today, are great. I'm so glad they removed the Reebok stripes up the arms to the pants. So unnecessary!

Also, along with that jersey, almost came "Cool Cat", the proposed mascot.
He makes Louie look cool.




We better continue this on the Blues thread. . .

I actually don't mind the away jerseys, it's the home "white and blue with red stripes" that really bugs me.

Proof the Royals are the BFIB

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Because no one has smoked weed at a Cardinals game.

^ How much $? Maybe they can honor their commitment to build Ballpark Village, which was supposed to be completed in 2011.

^ My gut feeling is DeWitt's family wealth and Cardinals profitability could well support speculation on next BPV Phase versus whatever dollars they get out of a minority league club which is probably minimal. I really think it is how they view future player development and costs associated with it with or without a majority stake in Memphis