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PostJul 29, 2021#876

Just from the buzz from my friend groups I'm seeing... its going to be so stinking successful.

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PostAug 02, 2021#877

https://stlbeer.org/events/bicentennial/

Bicentennial Brewer's Beer Garden this saturday on The Landing.  11am-5pm, $25.

Wish they could have made it a 5pm to 11pm event..

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PostSep 15, 2021#878

Maybe I will snap a photo the next time I walk by but they are definitely making progress on the Rockwell Beer Garden in Francis Park. Unfortunate that they are likely to miss the best weather this year but hoping that they will be open this fall.

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PostSep 27, 2021#879

I was disappointed to hear that the Brew Hub Tap Room is moving to Chesterfield.

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PostSep 28, 2021#880

I've never gone, or had any reason to.  Not sure why, but it never screamed 'come here' over any of the other independent unique breweries we have.

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PostSep 28, 2021#881

It was a good place to go to try a lot of different beers from some small brewers but it didn't really have a personality of its own. A person looking for craft beer in that area had Heavy Riff, 2nd Shift, Modern, UCBC, and Rockwell within close proximity. Maybe the move will give them less direct competition and a chance to rebrand.

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PostSep 28, 2021#882

^Agree. I've been to similar beer bars serving a variety of local mircrobrews in Portland and Charleston--but they were in the downtown areas. I don't imagine many went out of their way to go to the Brew Hub location when so many actual breweries are nearby. 

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PostSep 29, 2021#883

That, and it's just so much more fun to go to a place with identity and character like the actual brewery.  It's why I don't really like itap either.  Gezellig is great because it has a sought after pizza shop connected, and you can just pick out the cans yourself rather than the stress of reading through a 100-item-long beer list and trying to make up your mind on the spot.

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PostOct 26, 2021#884

https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... 2021-10-26

St. Louis brewery, Heavy Riff eyes $4.2M expansion
2K SF restaurant
City working on 10 Years Property Tax Abatement, and 75% of assessed value of improvements
4957 Fyler Avenue, St. Louis, MO

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PostOct 26, 2021#885

^Good bye Dogtown??

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PostOct 26, 2021#886

Says the dogtown brew pub will stay open.

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PostOct 27, 2021#887

That financing doesn't make sense.

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PostOct 27, 2021#888

So THAT is what's been going on with that lot for the past few years. Glad something is finally happening with that. There have been mounds of dirt there ever since the old building was demolished up until just recently. Mud would spill onto the sidewalk and street. It really is an eyesore right now.

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PostOct 27, 2021#889

Not too shabby. 

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PostOct 27, 2021#890

Good to see them building up to the sidewalk. And that's within stumbling distance of me. I hope they can open up before I decide to move!

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PostOct 28, 2021#891

Surprised no one has mentioned it, the Rockwell Beer Garden in Francis Park opened last week. There were big crowds the opening weekend, mostly people from the neighborhood. I think they were surprised by how many people flocked in from the area!

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PostOct 28, 2021#892

Ebsy wrote:Surprised no one has mentioned it, the Rockwell Beer Garden in Francis Park opened last week. There were big crowds the opening weekend, mostly people from the neighborhood. I think they were surprised by how many people flocked in from the area!
I know of 3-4 county groups that went, so my guess it will be popular among many outside the neighborhood 😀


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PostOct 28, 2021#893

dbInSouthCity wrote:
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I expect about 2-4 of local breweries not to make it out on the other side of coronavirus.  The micro brewery business was already headed for trouble and this just buried a lot of them
I’m glad this take was wide of the mark

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PostOct 28, 2021#894

Why was the microbrewery business headed for trouble anyway? 

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PostOct 28, 2021#895

PeterXCV wrote:
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Why was the microbrewery business headed for trouble anyway? 
Most likely it was over-saturation

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PostOct 28, 2021#896

The local craft beer market is definitely oversaturated. If you make good beer and have a good business model it's easy to get a slice of STL market share. The slices just get smaller and smaller. It's become a zero sum game.

The local industry to look out for these days is craft spirits. Still 630 has become a beast in the industry, and Switchgrass isn't far behind. Plenty of others to speak of too. As time passes and they are able to age things longer it will just get better and better.

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PostOct 28, 2021#897

^I agree that if your beer is an afterthought the microbrewery probably won't make it. 
Trailhead in St. Charles stuck around for far longer than it should have considering they only had 4 or 5 beers--most mediocre at best. 

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PostOct 28, 2021#898

I'm betting one or two of these craft beer brewers will eventually/hopefully shed their micro-boots and find their way into domestic market... There's been a few attempts like Firestone Walker Lager, Oscar Blues Lager, Bell's Light Hearted Ale, etc. 

I think its only a matter of time before one of these breweries makes a more price competitive domestic 'craft' beer that gets a foothold.  But once that model is figured out, there's plenty of market share there to spread out...  ...just my guess though.

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PostOct 28, 2021#899

GoHarvOrGoHome wrote:
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The local craft beer market is definitely oversaturated. If you make good beer and have a good business model it's easy to get a slice of STL market share. The slices just get smaller and smaller. It's become a zero sum game.

The local industry to look out for these days is craft spirits. Still 630 has become a beast in the industry, and Switchgrass isn't far behind. Plenty of others to speak of too. As time passes and they are able to age things longer it will just get better and better.
No. Craft brewers don’t only compete with each other. They compete with AB and Miller too. So long as craft brewers continue to take bites out of the big dawgs there will be more room for them.

Hell, we had hundreds of breweries when the region had only a fraction of its current population.

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PostOct 28, 2021#900

Not talked about here but Schlafly at one time had like 60,000 barrels a year production and now it’s down to 24,000 and over taken by O’Fallon with 25,000 and UBC(22k) and 4Hands (20k) are a few thousand barrels from passing them too (from biz journal rankings out about a month ago) 5 years ago Schlafly probably had more barrels than the next 5-7 combined.

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