St. Louis Blues

dweebe · PostApr 27, 2023#7762023-04-27T14:24+00:00

goat314 wrote: ↑
Apr 27, 2023
dweebe wrote: ↑
Apr 27, 2023
The Calgary Flames are replacing their 40 year old arena.
https://calgaryherald.com/news/local-ne ... tre-update

Once the Saddledome is gone, Enterprise Center will be the 3rd oldest arena in the NHL.
Are the Blues alone worth a billion dollar stadium? I'd want to see an NBA franchise with them too for that cost.

No they aren't.

A ton of NHL arenas opened in the 1990s. The only two NHL arenas in "danger" are

San Jose because of some layout issues including it's weirdly low roof/ceiling.
Ottawa because they made the poor choice of building it in a far west suburb

addxb2 · PostApr 27, 2023#7772023-04-27T14:32+00:00

Also, I don’t think the blues ownership would be silly enough to request anything with Green and Jones in charge. Green nearly derailed their update plans in 2017ish.

dbInSouthCity · PostApr 27, 2023#7782023-04-27T14:58+00:00

The blues just got $100,000,000 reno

RockChalkSTL · PostApr 27, 2023#7792023-04-27T15:15+00:00

Unfortunately, $100 million doesn't buy much for long in today's sports world.

Luckily for St. Louis, Blues ownership is committed to the city and region.

I think the Note will be back in the playoffs in 2024.

dweebe · PostApr 27, 2023#7802023-04-27T16:09+00:00

RockChalkSTL wrote: ↑
Apr 27, 2023
Unfortunately, $100 million doesn't buy much for long in today's sports world.

Luckily for St. Louis, Blues ownership is committed to the city and region.

I think the Note will be back in the playoffs in 2024.

I don't think Stillman's gonna be marching into the mayor's office demanding a $1 billion new arena or threatening a move to Houston. Like 18 new NHL arenas came online around the time of the Blues so they're all about the same and the recent $100 million recent reno has fixed what they can.

dbInSouthCity · PostApr 27, 2023#7812023-04-27T16:35+00:00

RockChalkSTL wrote: ↑
Apr 27, 2023
Unfortunately, $100 million doesn't buy much for long in today's sports world.

Luckily for St. Louis, Blues ownership is committed to the city and region.

I think the Note will be back in the playoffs in 2024.

this wasnt todays world, it was 2018 world and the blues got everything they asked for

STLEnginerd · PostApr 27, 2023#7822023-04-27T17:04+00:00

goat314 wrote: ↑
Apr 27, 2023
dweebe wrote: ↑
Apr 27, 2023
The Calgary Flames are replacing their 40 year old arena.
https://calgaryherald.com/news/local-ne ... tre-update

Once the Saddledome is gone, Enterprise Center will be the 3rd oldest arena in the NHL.
Are the Blues alone worth a billion dollar stadium? I'd want to see an NBA franchise with them too for that cost.

When the time comes to build a brand new Arena it should definitely be built to house both an NHL and an NBA franchise. If the city secures an NBA franchise with a 30 year commitment then the time will have come. Elsewise it makes sense to pay for reasonable upkeep and upgrades to satisfy the Blues but short of some truly major deficiency i don't see building a new venue.

sc4mayor · PostApr 27, 2023#7832023-04-27T17:13+00:00

I’ve seen games in St. Louis, Chicago, Denver and Nashville and in my opinion Enterprise compares extremely favorably from the fan experience. Nashville was without a doubt the worst building I’ve ever seen a game in. Poorly designed, tons of wasted space in massive and hardly used concourses, especially on the suite level. I was actually in a suite…awful. Low ceilings to the point while I was seated at the bar stools my fist would hit the ceiling if I raised my arm in celebration. Fortunately the Blues got their ass kicked so there wasn’t much celebrating lol. It was Blake Shelton’s suite too, so I know it wasn’t one of the lower tier ones. It made Enterprise’s suites look like small apartments. And the fixtures are way nicer in Enterprise as well.

Obviously Nashville has the better outdoor experience but I was supremely underwhelmed by that building…especially with some of the b*tching some St. Louis folks do about Enterprise.

Chicago’s the best I’ve personally seen a game in so far. Denver is nice too.

dbInSouthCity · PostApr 27, 2023#7842023-04-27T17:40+00:00

Enteprises front door sucks...the light fixtures on the building are rusting, the concrete is just tired looking on the plaza

dweebe · PostApr 27, 2023#7852023-04-27T17:43+00:00

sc4mayor wrote: ↑
Apr 27, 2023
I’ve seen games in St. Louis, Chicago, Denver and Nashville and in my opinion Enterprise compares extremely favorably from the fan experience. Nashville was without a doubt the worst building I’ve ever seen a game in. Poorly designed, tons of wasted space in massive and hardly used concourses, especially on the suite level. I was actually in a suite…awful. Low ceilings to the point while I was seated at the bar stools my fist would hit the ceiling if I raised my arm in celebration. Fortunately the Blues got their ass kicked so there wasn’t much celebrating lol. It was Blake Shelton’s suite too, so I know it wasn’t one of the lower tier ones. It made Enterprise’s suites look like small apartments. And the fixtures are way nicer in Enterprise as well.

Obviously Nashville has the better outdoor experience but I was supremely underwhelmed by that building…especially with some of the b*tching some St. Louis folks do about Enterprise.

Chicago’s the best I’ve personally seen a game in so far. Denver is nice too.

United Center is too damn big. It's only 2500ish seats bigger but it feels like a junior version of the Edward Jones Dome in it's size.

But then again you understand why as they built it during the Michael Jordan Bulls glory years.

sc4mayor · PostApr 27, 2023#7862023-04-27T18:11+00:00

^^ Like I said, Nashville takes the cake outside. The Blues need to cleanup the plazas in front of the building, maybe have some more events prior to game time. Nashville had lots of vendors, bands, a big SMASHVILLE sign people could take pics with, I was impressed until I walked into the building.

TheWayoftheArch_V2.0 · PostApr 27, 2023#7872023-04-27T18:27+00:00

dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑
Apr 27, 2023
Enteprises front door sucks...the light fixtures on the building are rusting, the concrete is just tired looking on the plaza

The fixtures have a "patina" and the concrete has "neo-rustic" appearance that harkens the glory years of the late 90s. Pour some out for Pavol Demitra.

That is all.

PostApr 27, 2023#7882023-04-27T18:29+00:00

I've been to a number of stadiums, and agree that we are on par with Denver (maybe a little better even), Nashville sucks and we still game with most around the league.

The Saddledome was an especially decrepit/arena for some time. Yes, we an burnish what we have and it will be suitable, without the NBA, for some time.

_nomad_ · PostApr 27, 2023#7892023-04-27T18:41+00:00

Investing in the area immediately adjacent Enterprise Center would do more for the gameday experience than replacing the building. It's great to see some energy coming to Union Station, but immediately out the door of Enterprise just seems bleak and rebuilding the arena itself won't fix that.

jshank83 · PostMay 01, 2023#7902023-05-01T12:49+00:00

sc4mayor wrote: ↑
Apr 27, 2023
I’ve seen games in St. Louis, Chicago, Denver and Nashville and in my opinion Enterprise compares extremely favorably from the fan experience. Nashville was without a doubt the worst building I’ve ever seen a game in. Poorly designed, tons of wasted space in massive and hardly used concourses, especially on the suite level. I was actually in a suite…awful. Low ceilings to the point while I was seated at the bar stools my fist would hit the ceiling if I raised my arm in celebration. Fortunately the Blues got their ass kicked so there wasn’t much celebrating lol. It was Blake Shelton’s suite too, so I know it wasn’t one of the lower tier ones. It made Enterprise’s suites look like small apartments. And the fixtures are way nicer in Enterprise as well.

Obviously Nashville has the better outdoor experience but I was supremely underwhelmed by that building…especially with some of the b*tching some St. Louis folks do about Enterprise.

Chicago’s the best I’ve personally seen a game in so far. Denver is nice too.

Nashville’s arena wasn’t built for hockey. The team was awarded after it was built. It’s just wedged in there. I think it was built more for concerts. They don’t even have a proper press box (or didn’t as of 5 years ago). They have people who should be in a press/broadcast box basically sitting in the stands.

TalkinDev · PostMay 01, 2023#7912023-05-01T14:14+00:00

Hopefully, the OYO hotel gets a better flag, operator and a facelift, that would do a lot to make immediate area more inviting.

dweebe · PostJun 26, 2023#7922023-06-26T22:11+00:00

The Philadelphia 76ers are moving out of the Wells Fargo Center to a new arena in the heart of downtown.
https://frontofficesports.com/philadelp ... ion-arena/

Now the Washington Capitols and Wizards are talking about a move to the suburbs.
https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/washingto ... ystal-city

My point?

my posts up this thread might be wrong.
these mid to late 1990's arenas are starting to "age out" in the mind of some owners. While this is BS, let's not be shocked if this trend doesn't accelerate.

sc4mayor · PostJun 26, 2023#7932023-06-26T22:31+00:00

What does two NBA teams exploring new arenas have to do with the Blues? Seems like it would fit better with the same circular discussion of arenas, their age and their size that takes place every couple months in the NBA thread.

Something on topic regarding Philly: Rumor has it Philly and St. Louis are working on a big trade, Carolina could be a third team if they can work through Krug's NTC bullsh*t.
https://www.stltoday.com/sports/column/ ... 52f0f.html

dweebe · PostJun 26, 2023#7942023-06-26T23:26+00:00

sc4mayor wrote: ↑
Jun 26, 2023
What does two NBA teams exploring new arenas have to do with the Blues? Seems like it would fit better with the same circular discussion of arenas, their age and their size that takes place every couple months in the NBA thread.

Because the 76ers are moving out of a similar age arena that they share with the Flyers and the Capitals are part of the DC possible move.

beer city · PostFeb 07, 2024#7952024-02-07T04:28+00:00

Third trip to the Classic! - That is pretty impressive since there are teams that have not been to one yet. Next year will be a little showcase for Conner Bedard I am sure - Still good times

https://www.stltoday.com/sports/profess ... 0b4ec.html

dweebe · PostFeb 08, 2024#7962024-02-08T06:06+00:00

beer city wrote: ↑
Feb 07, 2024
Third trip to the Classic! - That is pretty impressive since there are teams that have not been to one yet. Next year will be a little showcase for Conner Bedard I am sure - Still good times

https://www.stltoday.com/sports/profess ... 0b4ec.html

One of the claims is that some teams aren't interested in being part of the outdoor games, but that the Blues are receptive.

quincunx · PostFeb 23, 2024#7972024-02-23T17:09+00:00

delmar2debaliviere2downtown · PostOct 30, 2024#7982024-10-30T14:44+00:00

https://apnews.com/article/womens-hocke ... ee0c5c7a33

Anybody know if any St. Louis group has been trying to pull a team in the professional women’s hockey league? They will be expanding and looks like front runners are Pittsburgh and Detroit. No mention of St. Louis. I think we have proven ourselves a solid hockey town in the last 10 years. League is averaging 5,500 a game which is not nothing.

GoHarvOrGoHome · PostOct 30, 2024#7992024-10-30T14:53+00:00

KC should be gunning for a franchise if they aren't already. Great women's sports scene out there

RockChalkSTL · PostOct 30, 2024#8002024-10-30T15:05+00:00

KC is said to be trying for a WNBA team.

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