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PostNov 11, 2009#26

Great win last night. The Blues came out and put it to the Canucks, a pretty good team. I know that Luongo didnt start and the Blues likely were on a mission to avenge the sweep, but 6 goals is a good start. Like I mentioned in an earlier post. If they keep putting a ton of shots on goal, they have got to eventually start going in. Now, if they can come out Thursday and beat Nashville, we may be on to something. They are now only 4 points back of the division leading Hawks and Jackets. All things considered (slow start, 5 game skid etc..) that is pretty good. I am not ready to say this team is back on track, but last night was a start.



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PostNov 13, 2009#27

Well, last night was a letdown.

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PostNov 16, 2009#28

And Saturday night. And...



What a disappointing season. I'm glad Checketts is fed up as well...but what's next? :evil:

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PostNov 16, 2009#29

This team needs something. I am not sure what they can realistically do right now. I'd like to see them trade for a pure playmaker/goal scorer. The Blues have a lot of good d-men, maybe they can part with one to add some scoring. When you are losing 1 goal games every night, one guy can make all of the difference, maybe score some goals and jumpstart the other guys. Coaching is also an issue. I am not crazy about the lines Murray is throwing out there. They also sent Eller down to Peoria already. This team is lacking in a few areas right now. The Nashville game is a prime example of the 'going through the motions' thing that has bit them all season. Start out strong, get a lead, go into a lull and give up the lead or lose. I just hope they can dig themselves out of this.

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PostNov 16, 2009#30

I don't think there's any reason to panic yet. It took an amazing victory against boston last season to get this team firing and sending them on the ridiculous run they had the second half of last season. It was a singular event that really brought the team together.



Saturday's game against San Jose was well played by the Blues. I didint see anything that was truly dissappointing agaainst the best team in the league with one of the hardest tenders to solve.



The biggest problem right now is recapturing the team identity. Lat season it was easy for them to latch onto the blue collar mentality with all the injuries and need for guys to play a level up. This season, with the addition of EJ and Kariya I think the guys had subconciously decided they didnt have to work as hard with the infusion of skill.



Like checketts, I think the Blues have the pieces to score all they need. Backes is a perennial slow starter, Boyes is starting to find the twine...



3 things need to happen asap to get Blues back on track: 1)Paul kariya needs to be on a socring line and on a the PP, just not the point. He's a pp specialist and the best way to get him going is to let him find some points on the PP which will make him more confortable even strength 2) Sit Sydor, our cheap stop gap defensemen and play Pietrangelo every night, and put him on said PP point vacated by Kariya. 3) Andy Murray, who seems to be pressing just as much as the players ("gripping the stick too tight") needs to stop shuffling the lines every 5 minutes and let these guys work it out.



I also see the line combos we've been using poorly crafted. You need to have a guy like Walt, Winchester, backes and Oshie on separate lines, using thier size, hitting, energy to get the puck to the likes of MacDonald, Boyes, Kariya, Perron. I oftern look at the yesteryear line of Mellanby, Walt and demitra as a great blueprint for a line. Mellanby would initiate the forecheck, establish puck control, the puck would go to demitra who would set up walt in front or use the space create by walt to get a scoring chance.



I think we'll start to see the guys come around soon...JMO, though.

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PostNov 20, 2009#31

Last nights game against the Coyotes was Eric Johnson's true coming out party. He looked like a first round pick. He was great! As good as he was, Mason was even better, standing on his head and saving the game for the Blues. Good effort, but must be followed up with a strong effort against NY.



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PostFeb 03, 2010#32

This game tonight is the start of a stretch that is going to make or break the Blues season. It is the start of a BRUTAL pre-Olympic schedule that starts tonight in Chicago, to San Jose, Chicago, Colorado, Detroit, Toronto and Washington. If they don't win many of these games, the season could be over before the Olympic break. If the Blues are out of it by the trade deadline, look for them to dump Kariya, Tkachuk, Brewer, Steen, Colaiacovo, Winchester and whomever else they can dump. All are unrestricted free agents except Brewer. It would be great to sign Colaiacovo and Steen, dump the rest. I guess that would help for the future, but I'd rather see the Blues make another run at the playoffs and make some noise there. We will see!

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PostMar 05, 2010#33

5 wins in a row is nothing to scoff at. This team is again, coming together at the right time. I am very excited to see how this season plays out. Blues at now 1 point out of a playoff spot with a 6-1 dismantled the Stars last night and beat Phoenix 5-2 earlier this week. I am not wanting to jinx the Blues or get too excited, but at the very least, this team is playing well at the right time.

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PostMar 05, 2010#34

DOGTOWNB&R wrote:5 wins in a row is nothing to scoff at. This team is again, coming together at the right time. I am very excited to see how this season plays out. Blues at now 1 point out of a playoff spot with a 6-1 dismantled the Stars last night and beat Phoenix 5-2 earlier this week. I am not wanting to jinx the Blues or get too excited, but at the very least, this team is playing well at the right time.

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I like what they're doing now and the higher goal generation is great. Nice to see Kariya scoring. Hopefully he'll keep it together in this last stretch so it will be easier to dump his salary over the summer.

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PostApr 15, 2010#35

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports ... enDocument

This isn't going to help the Blues sell any season tickets for next year. Let's go with the same formula as last season, so we miss the playoffs again next season. It seems as if JD always says that they expect who they have to produce more, instead of obtaining more talent. Well, I guess if they would have signed more consistant players, he wouldn't have to keep asking players already on the roster to do more. No question, they need to sign a big name and shed the dead weight, ie....Brewer, Jackman, Mason, Kariya & Tkachuk already shed, dump a few others, infuse some of the young guys and add a big name goal scorer, a goalie and a defenseman. I can assure you, fans and the media are going to be very hard on the Blues. The free pass is gone. They must produce next season or the blind support will stop and the fans will revolt. As I always say : GO BLUES!

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DOGTOWNB&R wrote:No question, they need to sign a big name and shed the dead weight, ie....infuse some of the young guys and add a big name goal scorer, a goalie and a defenseman. I can assure you, fans and the media are going to be very hard on the Blues. The free pass is gone. They must produce next season or the blind support will stop and the fans will revolt. As I always say : GO BLUES!
Sadly, this reply could have been written in about 35 of the last 40 years. Keep telling everyone how hard the young guys are working, how we're just 2-3 years away from winning, etc. Toss a few cement heads on the ice to start fights, and the hoosiers will keep turning out.

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PostMay 11, 2010#37

I am not putting too much stock into this article, but there is one line that caught my attention. Anyone heard anything......? I sure haven't. Maybe Checketts is going to turn his focus to the NFL, maybe he is incurring too much loss or maybe the writer's source is bogus, who knows. I am sure if there is anything to this, it will go public soon.
The other spot where there are rumblings of an ownership change is St. Louis, a team that appears to be on the right track after bottoming out a couple of seasons ago.
http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/3 ... y_20100511

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PostMay 11, 2010#38

DOGTOWNB&R wrote:
The other spot where there are rumblings of an ownership change is St. Louis, a team that appears to be on the right track after bottoming out a couple of seasons ago.
http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/3 ... y_20100511
Ugh. I hope there's no truth to this. :evil:

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PostMay 11, 2010#39

Word from the stltoday Blues Talk group is that Checketts main investor wants out. Checketts is now looking for someone to fill that role in the investment group. I wonder why NOBODY in the media is discussing this and the Blues have not made a statement.

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PostMay 11, 2010#41

This is not freak-out time.

The group that fronted the cash for Checketts, TowerBrook Capital Partners, is a London-based Private Equity firm that sponsored Checkettts' company, SCP Worldwide, on a PE takeover of the ownership stake from the Laurie's.

They were there for investment, that's all. With leadership like SCP managing the corporate turnaround of the Blues, they've seen a strong return on their initial investment. Now that the company has produced a very strong return on invested capital, they are seeking to liquidate their interests and reallocate into new ventures for higher ROI and diversification. Honestly, for such deals, they probably have surpassed their planned time of investment in the company, staying in longer than anticipated because of the maintained and stable high returns they've received.

Checketts and SCP Worldwide are staying around and will find new owners for the shares being sold by TowerBrook. Their intersts are strong in Saint Louis, including the Kiel.

Don't think of the ownership being that of Bill DeWitt's of the Cardinals or what Georgia Frontiere had with the Rams; this was a corporation which wholly-owned the Blues as a subsidiary. A much better comparison would be to Hardee's parent corporation being acquired by the Apollo Group, another Private Equity investment company.

In fact: This may be a harbinger for great times. If TowerBrook was fronting the money for the Blues as a company, with Checketts buying the Scottrade Center and the Kiel Opera House, the expansion of Checketts' intersts into a soon-to-announce redevelopment of the Kiel may actually have forced TowerBrook to separate. Pure speculation, yes, but maybe one has to leave to allow the other the legal room to move forward. Just think, if the Blues are now a secondary interest to the other entities (Kiel and Old Municipal Courts redevelopments), with new funding for them secured from a new money source (note: Citibank already involved), maybe this is what we've needed for an announcement on Kiel to happen.

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^On the flip side, I don't think it is time to celebrate or even be cautiously optimistic. The St. Louis Blues franchise has been held back for decades, due to unstable ownership situations. From the days of the Soloman's, Ralston, Kiel Partners to the Lauries. The previous ownership, the Lauries, did not have an easy time selling this franchise. That is why Bill L. had so much time to run the team into the ground, while trying to sell. The Pronger deal still haunts the Blues. Regarding the obvious, the economy suks, the NHL is not a good buy right now. The NHL depends strictly on gate revenue, due to the fact they have no TV package. If you buy a team, you have to be willing to lose money because you'll have to spend money to win or your attendance will dwindle. The NHL is no easy sell. I understand the Blues have loyal fans and will support a winner. However, the end of the Laurie era and the first few years of the Checketts era show you that this fanbase will dwindle if there is not a winner on the ice. From first hand experience, I was, on some nights, 1 of maybe 15 people in a particular section, during those lean years. It is no sure thing for any potential investor,especially one that will have to front a ton of money. I hope that someone steps up and stabalizes this franchise once and for all.

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PostMay 12, 2010#43

The one upside I see for the NHL is that if there are work stopages in 2011 in the NFL and/or NBA the NHL could easily end up as a primary source of programming on ESPN. You can already tell ESPN wants them back by the increased coverage on PTI and Sportscenter.

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DOGTOWNB&R wrote:^On the flip side, I don't think it is time to celebrate or even be cautiously optimistic. The St. Louis Blues franchise has been held back for decades, due to unstable ownership situations. From the days of the Soloman's, Ralston, Kiel Partners to the Lauries. The previous ownership, the Lauries, did not have an easy time selling this franchise. That is why Bill L. had so much time to run the team into the ground, while trying to sell. The Pronger deal still haunts the Blues. Regarding the obvious, the economy suks, the NHL is not a good buy right now. The NHL depends strictly on gate revenue, due to the fact they have no TV package. If you buy a team, you have to be willing to lose money because you'll have to spend money to win or your attendance will dwindle. The NHL is no easy sell. I understand the Blues have loyal fans and will support a winner. However, the end of the Laurie era and the first few years of the Checketts era show you that this fanbase will dwindle if there is not a winner on the ice. From first hand experience, I was, on some nights, 1 of maybe 15 people in a particular section, during those lean years. It is no sure thing for any potential investor,especially one that will have to front a ton of money. I hope that someone steps up and stabalizes this franchise once and for all.

Go Blues and Go Checketts!
Why I feel better than you do on this:

1. I don’t see this as any time to be pessimistic. For all the boo-hooing that goes on with this site over short-sightedness, it seems to be contagious here. I don’t have any slight thought of the Blues being in danger of moving or shutting down or any other peril.

2. We are dealing with a multibillion dollar private equity firm here, not a family that inherited a buttload of Sam Walton’s stock dividends. These people are in the business of managing successful, boutique businesses, and especially turnarounds. They succeeded, and now they have to diversity into other interests. That’s what the Private Equity business is all about.

3. I see the NHL as a quality buy for a major investor. It’s all about sustainable streams of revenue. With the Blues, you’ve got that and then some, including from seats, concessions, branding, broadcast rights, luxury boxes, merchandising, package deals, etc. Note: Not sure if there is any forms of profit-sharing within the NHL framework.

4. “If you buy a team, you have to be willing to lose money because you'll have to spend money to win or your attendance will dwindle.” You have that with every business investment, risks and the need to recapitalize. The only time when one buys a business like this and does not need to reinvest capital immediately is when the whole package is already set perfectly, in which case the buyer pays a strong premium for the value drivers.

5. The franchise itself is stable. I do not fear doom because the outside source of quick-time revenues have seen their investment goals met. Honestly, that they’re ready to move on bodes strongly to other interests of the Return on Investment apparent from ownership of the Blues.

Why are they selling if they’re making good money? Because Private Equity firms enter deals with two objectives:
1. Return on Investment, and
2. Finite time horizon of investment.
They’ve met both. Now they have to exit, as per the mandates within their limited partners’ private operating memorandums. That’s it. Pools of capital like this need to diversity and rebalance on a quasi-regular basis; the selling of their private shares does this. I’ve been a consultant to Private Equity firms in the last few years and have seen how they operated, so I have a good understanding of what I’m saying when I say that this is not freak-out time.

And not only all that, but Checketts has recently been talking with how many other private investors to buy the Rams? Including prominent StL business leaders like Andy Taylor and Rodger Riney? And don’t forget that big player in Texas who was ready to front the bulk of the cash.

Hops this helps to assuage anxieties.

If I wanted rose-colored glasses, I’d say get an investment group that also has an NBA franchise.

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PostMay 12, 2010#45

Gone Corporate laid it out well and why we can't get too excited, if anything Blues fans should be relieved that an equity firm wants to cash out.

The way I look at, Equity firm wants to cash out, Checketts gets an opportunity to secure a more stable ownership/control, package is altogher under one roof with a ready made concert venue attached to it (Kiel just needs a little tender care). Checketts might soon enjoy an envious position that a Missourian has built himself in Denver. In fact, All Checketts has to do is go find a NBA team after he opens up the Kiel and I suggest he has better overall package going then Stan K.

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PostMay 12, 2010#46

^^I appreciate the business lesson.. not that I needed it. My only point was that you have to look at things from both sides of the coin. Yes, it can end up being a positive, but on the flip side, it could be a negative. Do I think the Blues will move, no, never said that. The buyer has to buy the package of the building and the franchise. I understand the purpose of equity firms, as my former company was bought and sold by one, after they got the ROI they wanted. This is no surprise, but let's not kid ourselves. This is a rough time for the economy and the NHL. While attendance is up in a lot of places, the lack of a big TV contract is killing the NHL. I do not see ESPN picking the NHL up. If they do, it will not be like the 90's. Espn seems to want to grow the NFL, college basketball and futbol. The pending work stoppage is a HUGE issue for the NHL. The Blues are a great franchise with loyal fans, but lets be honest. St. Louis is a town of fair weather fans, regarding football and hockey. If the current path continues to lead to watching the playoffs from the golf course, fans will no longer show up. Are there big money investors out there, for sure. Is Checketts great at finding them, yes. Is this a sure thing, NO! Will he likely find some investor(s), yes. Will it be a short term investor or a long term investor, who knows. All I do know, is once and for all, I want a stable owner of the Blues. That is why this franchise cannot get to the level of the Red Wings or other great franchises. I think you'd be foolish to think that anything can't happen here. I am not being negative, just realistic. I wish the best for the Blues and at this early stage in the game, I am not freaking out. I think Dave C. will find someone, but will that someone be the right long term fit? I want long term stability, thats it!

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PostMay 17, 2010#47

am I understanding correctly that a tv contract for the NHL is what it will take to get the blues in the black? they sold out 35 of 41 homedates and according to Checketts are barely breaking even. I think this is something to be concerned about, teams are trying to find new revenue streams. Some teams are building new arenas and adding restaurants essentially becoming malls..does that say something about Scottrade Center, or the Blues?
Is KOH going to be enough? I'd hate to see the blues leave but make no mistake about it they are for sale. Bill Laurie wasn't such a bad guy in hindsight. He did have money. Too bad fans ran him off and still curse him to this day.

I don't think blues fans are fairweather fans though, otherwise they would have relocated a long time ago. They had a streak of (20?) playoff appearances so they haven't really been tested other than the lockout. Even then it only took a few years for them to jump back amongst the leaders in attendance. Fairweather fans, I'll challenge anyone to say that about any of our sports teams.

I do wonder who out there wants to own an arena with only 41 dates and a team in a league with no national tv contract. Luckily it sounds like Checketts' parent group will stay on until an owner is found. I'm just wondering if they'll find someone who just wants to own an NHL team.

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^TV contracts are what makes money, period. All of the other stuff makes money, but there are major expenses that come along with operating a franchise. Most teams start making real profit at the gate, once they make the playoffs. I think the Scottrade Center is fine. Put a winning team on the ice, fill other dates with concerts etc and they'll be fine. First and foremost, make the Blues a Cup contender and all is fine.
Regarding Bill Laurie, he was not a bad guy, just a moron. He bought the Blues to get an NBA team. He should have just waited and bought an NBA team elsewhere. He spent a fortune on the Blues, allowed management to overspend on high priced free agents, while not building from within. They were competitive, but never got over the hump because he never got what the Blues have always needed, GOALTENDING!!! If he would have got an NBA team, the Blues would not have been his priority. I'm glad he sold. I just hope the new investor is LONG TERM and STABLE. That is how you build a strong organization. I truly believe this management team can get the Blues to the promised land, if they get the right investors.

Regarding your challenge of my 'fair weather fans' comment, you don't have to look very far to see examples of this. Do the Blues and Rams have 'some' hardcore fans, YES!
Are there enough to fill buildings on a nightly basis, h*ll no! Every team needs a core of hardcore fans, a ton of casual fans and other less casual fans to fill the seats. I am a long time Blues fan and I see it all of the time. The lean seasons with Laurie, there were hardly any fans showing up. I was there many nights, one of 15 people in my section. This season, I attended games where the building was 75% full. I attended a few of these ‘sell outs’.
Keep in mind , the Blues had some of the cheapest seats in town, gave away a TON of tickets and had endless promotions to sell tickets. It is not like they are selling out at full price. The plan was to get fans back with discounts and promos, while building the team up. Once they reach their goal of putting a winner on the ice, they could raise ticket prices and end the endless promotions. Fans would pay a premium to see the team winning. Unfortunately, they took a step back this year and it is throwing their plan off.
Go to Bears, Packers, Chiefs, Flyers, Bruins, Wild, etc..etc.. game and you will see those buildings sold out most games. Are some of those cities bigger, yes, but the point is, they are not franchises that are overly successful, yet they sell out most games. The Blues and Rams have a certain amount of fans that will go rain or shine, but when the tough times come, many of the FWF are nowhere to be found. Rams attendance is so bad, hardly any home games are on TV. The ones that were on TV came at the expense of the Rams buying 2000 tickets or the other teams fans selling it out. With only 8 home games, everyone should sell out in such a great sports town, if for anything, to see pro football, not the Rams necessarily. Same with the Blues. Checketts group should not have to give away tickets, free food and free rent for a year, to get fans in the seats. It should be for the love of the team and your city. I understand that nobody wants a loser, but none of our franchises are the KC Royals or Pitts. Pirates. They have all had success in recent years. No reason for our teams not to be selling out every night or coming close, in a metro area of almost 3 million people. Especially a city that claims to be such a great sports town and in my opinion is. That is why I believe this town is full of FWF, more so than loyal hardcore fans. The only sport that fans have blind loyalty to is obviously the Cardinals. My comments only relate to the Blues and Rams. Attendance numbers don’t tell the story, so don’t go off of the fact that the Blues sold out so many games last season. They gave away TONS of half price tix and free tix. I look forward to the day when both teams can fill the seats without the need for giveaways, but because they are so successful.

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DOGTOWNB&R wrote:Regarding your challenge of my 'fair weather fans' comment, you don't have to look very far to see examples of this. Do the Blues and Rams have 'some' hardcore fans, YES!
Are there enough to fill buildings on a nightly basis, h*ll no!
Of course, but look at a place like Cleveland. When the Indians are bad they can have 10,000 or fewer fans at a game. Do you think that would ever happen to the Cards? No.

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PostMay 18, 2010#50

Addressed that in my post:
The only sport that fans have blind loyalty to is obviously the Cardinals. My comments only relate to the Blues and Rams.

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