Looks like it. But it's actually just Google street view.flipz wrote: ↑Jan 07, 2020Wait, is that a rendering? Looks pretty good.
- 6,120
I do like the brick screens on the porches of the left two.
I noticed some construction fencing on Des Peres a block or two north of this corner. Anyone know what's up?
$150k permit issued to rehab the house without a roof at 5727 DeGiverville.
Good news!
Good news!
That is awesome news for sure!quincunx wrote:$150k permit issued to rehab the house without a roof at 5727 DeGiverville.
Good news!
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Interesting bits from yore regarding blocking the streets.
To the Editor: Count me among those who enthusiastically supports the recent street closings (Des Peres, Laurel, Rosedale, and Nina) in the neighborhood. From what I have seen in only three weeks, they have brought new vitality, serenity, and harmony to Skinker-DeBaliviere. It pleases me, for example, to see our young people using the streets and sidewalks for games, bicycle riding, etc., in greater numbers than before (I have lived in the neighborhood seven years). And I like the fact that more of my friends and neighbors — of all ages — seem to be out and about, enjoying the safety and tranquility that come with less traffic on our streets. Looking ahead, I am hopeful that plans for the "greening" of Des Peres will help unify the neighborhood east and west of that street. In my view, any slight inconvenience that may result from the barriers would seem a small price to pay for changes that will bring us closer together. To those who would remove the barriers, I ask: Would you want also to tear up the barricades on Rosedale, Waterman (at DeBaliviere) and Laurel (at Westminster and Kingsbury)? Those changes, opposed by many at the time, improved our neighborhood by cutting down all but local traffic. We all want to make Skinker-DeBaliviere a better place for everyone, and if that means asking small sacrifices of many (rather than big sacrifices of a few), well, isn't that what "neighborhood" is all about? I ask everyone to give the experiment a chance before giving the experiment up. — Richard Lowenstein
To the Editor: Have you walked on Des Peres lately? Have you sat on the four corners benches and enjoyed the calm and quiet? Did you miss the noise and exhaust of the hundreds of cars passing daily from Hodiamont to Hampton using our neighborhood as their conduit? For those of us who live or walk on Des Peres, the barricades prove to us that we can have a neighborhood again. Now let us address the very real problem of emergency vehicle access with a Rosedale-like system that will discourage through traffic but allow some local traffic. Let us not waste energy on the irrelevant smoke screen of "racism" but together enjoy a smoke (exhaust) free Des Peres which, though less convenient, can be made to benefit us all—all but the through traffickers. —Bill Kohn
Dear Editor: I have lived in the Skinker-DeBaliviere neighborhood for exactly eighteen years. Unfortunately, during that time, I have been the occasional recipient, along with my neighbors, of tracts or flyers, telling me what was wrong with the neighborhood in which I chose to live and raise my family. The people or groups who handed out the tracts, and indeed the tracts themselves, all had something in common. The tracts were rarely truthful. A little fact was always twisted in the apparent hope of exciting or stirring emotions. The authors of the handouts never made themselves known. No names, no titles, not a single way to identify the individual who authored the handout. To assure that their identity would not be known, these masked authors caused their tracts to be delivered in the dark of night, when all would be asleep. They can, in part, be compared to the masked night riders of one hundred years ago who rode when all were asleep. Those riders were called cowards. I think the comparison stands today. Somehow, as the tracts came, I was generally able to tolerate the general foolishness of the whole thing. Unfortunately, I have arrived at a point of my life called middle-age and I find that it is not as easy to tolerate foolishness. Which brings me to my point. The other day, I received a new tract, bemoaning the closing of Des Peres. Nothing has changed. Let me explain. We had a tract delivered that contained little truth. There was no way to identify the author. A group was named, but it has no relation. ship to our neighborhood. It is located in the suburbs, has no listed telephone number, and uses a post office box number for an address. Finally, to mask their identity, they had their stuff handed out by small children. No leadership and no courage or conviction for this group. Like the rest, they prefer to hide, even behind small children. My purpose in writing is not to debate our unknown author's position on the closing of Des Peres. If we could ever find out who she or he is, I would be glad to do so. My reason for writing is simply to state that after eighteen years, I have become fed up with these night rider types. I want our self-proclaimed saviors, our masked suburban raiders who hide behind little children, to just go home. If they must pester people, let them pester their own neighbors and not mine. We do not need them. We have not asked for them. They offer nothing. They only take away. —Calvin B. Stuart, Jr.
To the Editor: Count me among those who enthusiastically supports the recent street closings (Des Peres, Laurel, Rosedale, and Nina) in the neighborhood. From what I have seen in only three weeks, they have brought new vitality, serenity, and harmony to Skinker-DeBaliviere. It pleases me, for example, to see our young people using the streets and sidewalks for games, bicycle riding, etc., in greater numbers than before (I have lived in the neighborhood seven years). And I like the fact that more of my friends and neighbors — of all ages — seem to be out and about, enjoying the safety and tranquility that come with less traffic on our streets. Looking ahead, I am hopeful that plans for the "greening" of Des Peres will help unify the neighborhood east and west of that street. In my view, any slight inconvenience that may result from the barriers would seem a small price to pay for changes that will bring us closer together. To those who would remove the barriers, I ask: Would you want also to tear up the barricades on Rosedale, Waterman (at DeBaliviere) and Laurel (at Westminster and Kingsbury)? Those changes, opposed by many at the time, improved our neighborhood by cutting down all but local traffic. We all want to make Skinker-DeBaliviere a better place for everyone, and if that means asking small sacrifices of many (rather than big sacrifices of a few), well, isn't that what "neighborhood" is all about? I ask everyone to give the experiment a chance before giving the experiment up. — Richard Lowenstein
To the Editor: Have you walked on Des Peres lately? Have you sat on the four corners benches and enjoyed the calm and quiet? Did you miss the noise and exhaust of the hundreds of cars passing daily from Hodiamont to Hampton using our neighborhood as their conduit? For those of us who live or walk on Des Peres, the barricades prove to us that we can have a neighborhood again. Now let us address the very real problem of emergency vehicle access with a Rosedale-like system that will discourage through traffic but allow some local traffic. Let us not waste energy on the irrelevant smoke screen of "racism" but together enjoy a smoke (exhaust) free Des Peres which, though less convenient, can be made to benefit us all—all but the through traffickers. —Bill Kohn
Dear Editor: I have lived in the Skinker-DeBaliviere neighborhood for exactly eighteen years. Unfortunately, during that time, I have been the occasional recipient, along with my neighbors, of tracts or flyers, telling me what was wrong with the neighborhood in which I chose to live and raise my family. The people or groups who handed out the tracts, and indeed the tracts themselves, all had something in common. The tracts were rarely truthful. A little fact was always twisted in the apparent hope of exciting or stirring emotions. The authors of the handouts never made themselves known. No names, no titles, not a single way to identify the individual who authored the handout. To assure that their identity would not be known, these masked authors caused their tracts to be delivered in the dark of night, when all would be asleep. They can, in part, be compared to the masked night riders of one hundred years ago who rode when all were asleep. Those riders were called cowards. I think the comparison stands today. Somehow, as the tracts came, I was generally able to tolerate the general foolishness of the whole thing. Unfortunately, I have arrived at a point of my life called middle-age and I find that it is not as easy to tolerate foolishness. Which brings me to my point. The other day, I received a new tract, bemoaning the closing of Des Peres. Nothing has changed. Let me explain. We had a tract delivered that contained little truth. There was no way to identify the author. A group was named, but it has no relation. ship to our neighborhood. It is located in the suburbs, has no listed telephone number, and uses a post office box number for an address. Finally, to mask their identity, they had their stuff handed out by small children. No leadership and no courage or conviction for this group. Like the rest, they prefer to hide, even behind small children. My purpose in writing is not to debate our unknown author's position on the closing of Des Peres. If we could ever find out who she or he is, I would be glad to do so. My reason for writing is simply to state that after eighteen years, I have become fed up with these night rider types. I want our self-proclaimed saviors, our masked suburban raiders who hide behind little children, to just go home. If they must pester people, let them pester their own neighbors and not mine. We do not need them. We have not asked for them. They offer nothing. They only take away. —Calvin B. Stuart, Jr.
And 5 years later
- 805
5800 Pershing Under Contract as a foreclosure sale. Will likely get a rehab once the sale is complete.
5754 DeGiverville has a dumpster out front. Just got a new roof the other day. Should be getting a rehab as well. Was a foreclosure sale for $126k recently.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
5754 DeGiverville has a dumpster out front. Just got a new roof the other day. Should be getting a rehab as well. Was a foreclosure sale for $126k recently.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
6001 Westminster sold by the city to a neighborhood resident who plans a 3 story 3 unit building with elevator.
BIG win for the neighborhood, losing that house would have really affected the street wall in a prominent location.
- 2,631
Haven't been over there in a hot second, this made my day!
The tree in front of the boarded-up house next door was removed. Maybe a glimer of hope.
$115k building permit application submitted for two to single family conversion of 5758 McPherson.
The vegetation except for a tree has been cleared out of 5766 DeGiverville. Don't see a recent ownership charge nor permit activity, so may a sign of nothing,
- 805
The guy’s been running his chain saw until 10 PM every night for a week nowquincunx wrote:The vegetation except for a tree has been cleared out of 5766 DeGiverville. Don't see a recent ownership charge nor permit activity, so may a sign of nothing,
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Ha, well someone was throwing away stuff loudly at 5 am this morning. Particle board in the recycling bin, smh. Better than the yard waste bin, I suppose.
- 805
He’s back at it with the chainsaw at 11:20 PM. In what world is that okay? Don’t know how his neighbors are putting up with it. I’d think this property is ripe for new construction with the projects on DeBaliviere coming soon.quincunx wrote:Ha, well someone was throwing away stuff loudly at 5 am this morning. Particle board in the recycling bin, smh. Better than the yard waste bin, I suppose.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Oh you're so wrong. No one will want to live in the area due to the streets being jammed with cars from all the people who want to live in the area.
On a side note, I hope the a-hole doing figure 8s in their hot rod crashes into the strip mall or into the hole for 310.
On a side note, I hope the a-hole doing figure 8s in their hot rod crashes into the strip mall or into the hole for 310.
Again, is what to do hard to figure out? I suppose the process helps prioritize things.
Video of traffic calming study meeting held Sep 10.
Video of traffic calming study meeting held Sep 10.
The lots at 5806 and 5808 Westminster are for sale at $35k each. Get 'em while they're hot!