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PostMay 21, 2016#976

It pains me to report this but Fields is in big trouble. Culinaria is obviously a blessing for downtown but financially it is considered as mostly a showy "loss leader" for Schnucks. I wish Lucky's good luck and hope it succeeds.

I sincerely hope Field's can hold on because it is pretty great. Right now, if the city were to enact the 15/hr wage today Field's would probably close tomorrow. No chance.

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PostMay 21, 2016#977

I actually heard the opposite. Heard that Culinaria is their most profitable store.


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PostMay 21, 2016#978

leeharveyawesome wrote:It pains me to report this but Fields is in big trouble. Culinaria is obviously a blessing for downtown but financially it is considered as mostly a showy "loss leader" for Schnucks. I wish Lucky's good luck and hope it succeeds.

I sincerely hope Field's can hold on because it is pretty great. Right now, if the city were to enact the 15/hr wage today Field's would probably close tomorrow. No chance.
where are you getting your info?

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PostMay 21, 2016#979

downtown2007 wrote:I actually heard the opposite. Heard that Culinaria is their most profitable store.


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This would make sense to me. Most grocery items have insanely low profit margins on items like canned and packaged goods on the shelf. Profit margin is under 5% on a lot of them.

Where grocery stores really make their money is on their prepared foods, like deli, meat, etc.

Schnucks Cullinaria is a madhouse during lunch, and it's mostly DT workers getting salads and sandwiches from the deli. It wouldn't surprise me if it's their best store margin-wise.

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PostMay 22, 2016#980

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downtown2007 wrote:I actually heard the opposite. Heard that Culinaria is their most profitable store.


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This would make sense to me. Most grocery items have insanely low profit margins on items like canned and packaged goods on the shelf. Profit margin is under 5% on a lot of them.

Where grocery stores really make their money is on their prepared foods, like deli, meat, etc.

Schnucks Cullinaria is a madhouse during lunch, and it's mostly DT workers getting salads and sandwiches from the deli. It wouldn't surprise me if it's their best store margin-wise.
Actually it's quite the opposite. The prepared foods are highly labor intensive and not very profitable. And those 2-3 hours 5 days a week aren't enough to overcome the much lower sales volume of the non-labor intensive items.

There has been a handful of profitable months in the 7+ years or however long it's been there.

Just what I heard.

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PostMay 22, 2016#981

So who want's to take a stab at when CVS or Walgreen's will come to downtown?

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PostMay 22, 2016#982

Walgreen's was downtown at one point - two stores in fact :).

But agreed; I'm still baffled why a downtown population of 10,000 or 15,000 or whatever it is can't support a full pharmacy and can't make a full service grocery store consistently profitable.

I also heard Great Clips was in trouble (from a stylist that bailed).

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PostMay 22, 2016#983

I think we'll see Walgreens or CVS in DT or DTW by the end of the decade.

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PostMay 22, 2016#984

It wouldn't surprise me at all to see a Walgreens/CVS on North Tucker by the PD and McDonalds.

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PostMay 23, 2016#985

Drove downtown Friday night at 10pm...Tucker to Washington to 500 N Broadway...shocked how little was going on...few propel walking on Washington, rest of downtown was 1 or 2 people per block. No idea how to fix that

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PostMay 23, 2016#986

Downtown West and Washington Avenue foot traffic will swell in the next few months again. Right now (mid to end May) is one of the slowest retail and spending times in the fiscal year - schools coming out / kids graduating / many things going on personally.

I personally shop at Fields - love that store. Love the employees attitudes and find it busy or at least steady every time I am shopping there. Not sure if that info is correct or who/what the source is.

I have heard that Schnucks Culinaria is also a profitable store. In addition, they own the entire building and feed off of the parking lot profits. Schnucks has done an awesome job with their downtown store IMO. I love it.

Lucky's - bring it on. Encourages more downtown population growth. Great to see a national brand store (and trendy) looking at Downtown STL. Entices other national brands to have interest in downtown. Also will pump up traffic along the western portion of Washington Avenue and be a great "attraction store for many city residents outside of the downtown living districts. In addition City Museum visitors will benefit from the stores great location.

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PostMay 23, 2016#987

matguy70 wrote:Downtown West and Washington Avenue foot traffic will swell in the next few months again. Right now (mid to end May) is one of the slowest retail and spending times in the fiscal year - schools coming out / kids graduating / many things going on personally.

I personally shop at Fields - love that store. Love the employees attitudes and find it busy or at least steady every time I am shopping there. Not sure if that info is correct or who/what the source is.

I have heard that Schnucks Culinaria is also a profitable store. In addition, they own the entire building and feed off of the parking lot profits. Schnucks has done an awesome job with their downtown store IMO. I love it.

Lucky's - bring it on. Encourages more downtown population growth. Great to see a national brand store (and trendy) looking at Downtown STL. Entices other national brands to have interest in downtown. Also will pump up traffic along the western portion of Washington Avenue and be a great "attraction store for many city residents outside of the downtown living districts. In addition City Museum visitors will benefit from the stores great location.
1. Schnucks does not own the building.
2. They did recently renew their lease for another 7 or 8 years. So, it would appear they feel the location is/has become/or will become profitable enough to stick around for awhile.

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PostMay 23, 2016#988

^ good to hear about the lease renewal. And you're correct; The Great State of Mo owns the building through the MDFB. MDFB also owns the M/X and 600 Washington office tower, btw, so the city gets no property tax on any of those.

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PostMay 24, 2016#989

leeharveyawesome wrote: Actually it's quite the opposite. The prepared foods are highly labor intensive and not very profitable. And those 2-3 hours 5 days a week aren't enough to overcome the much lower sales volume of the non-labor intensive items.

There has been a handful of profitable months in the 7+ years or however long it's been there.

Just what I heard.
I used to work in the supermarket industry, and whoever told you that is wrong. Unless there's something unique to Schnucks' store/pricing models, prepared foods, meat, and deli are huge profit centers. Labor is not that much of a cost, and the % markup is much higher than the shelf items.

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PostMay 24, 2016#990

Yeah, I heard Culinaria was the best performing Schnucks in terms of profit margin.


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PostJun 02, 2016#991

I was getting my haircut at Studio 16, across the street from the English Living building where Lucky's is expected to go, and someone had just read that a 20-story parking garage is planned for the lot west of the building.

Anybody know anything about this? Can't find anything in my brief search, and I didn't ask for their source. It makes sense that Lucky's would want a garage, though 20 stories seems high. Maybe there's more than just parking—hopefully.

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PostJun 02, 2016#992

I didn't hear a parking garage. I believe the Post ran an article that the CPI conversion into apartments included a new 20 story residential tower next to it (i.e. the block west of Ely Walker). I'll try to dig up the article.

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PostJun 02, 2016#994

jstriebel wrote:I was getting my haircut at Studio 16, across the street from the English Living building where Lucky's is expected to go, and someone had just read that a 20-story parking garage is planned for the lot west of the building.

Anybody know anything about this? Can't find anything in my brief search, and I didn't ask for their source. It makes sense that Lucky's would want a garage, though 20 stories seems high. Maybe there's more than just parking—hopefully.
they probably heard "20 story building with parking garage" as "20 story parking garage". a 20 story parking garage seems extreme even for St. Louis.

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PostJun 03, 2016#995

Thanks! That makes more sense to me. 20-story building that also has some parking in it. Also, obviously, the better option for our city. That part of town could really see a boom.

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PostJun 03, 2016#996

Any chatter on the Prime 1000 or Dubliner spaces that are currently vacant?

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PostJun 03, 2016#997

^^ I'd also like to know if anyone has heard anything. I used to see people inside Dubliner looking at it, but I haven't seen anyone in there in months now.

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PostJun 03, 2016#998

BizJournal reports the Gills are opening a pizza joint called The Sliced Pint in their EastBank Lofts building at 1511 Washington, which is right next to the International Shoe Building. I believe Ozzie's old spot.

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PostJun 04, 2016#999

^ god. keep the strip moving west! and also fill in the gaps but keep the development going!

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PostJun 04, 2016#1000

^ amazing how much action is planned for the 1500-1700 blocks of Wash Ave. Not everything will move forward, I'm sure, but here's some of the projects...

1501 Washington, boutique hotel (International Shoe)
1511 Washington, new restaurant filling up vacant space (EastBank Lofts)
1533 Washington, Fashion Incubator filling up vacant ground floor + 2nd floor (Art Loft)

1520 Washington, Lucky's grocery (Ely Walker Lofts)
1600 Washington, possible 20 story mixed-use new construction
1706 Washington, apartment conversion + first floor pre-school (Monogram Building)

And then of course a few blocks up we have the Buell Building renovation at 1900 Washington and the old fire station conversion at 2000 Washington (although it looks like work on that is slow going)

Great to see for an area that had retrenched a bit since the 2000s.

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