Retail Rally: What's Next For Downtown St. Louis?

roger wyoming II · PostAug 26, 2015#7262015-08-26T18:25+00:00

This is in Midtown, so more the equivalent of maybe the Cortex/SLU/GC area. but greater downtown Detroit Lumbersexuals get their special treat starting tomorrow:

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20 ... wn-detroit

They'll look quite rugged while riding their fancy streetcar and scooping up vinyl at the Jack White record shop.

jsbru · PostAug 27, 2015#7272015-08-27T01:10+00:00

downtown2007 wrote:Stefanos is closing

Not surprising...that was a bad location. I live less than a block from there, and walk past it nearly every day. I routinely forget that there's even a restaurant there. It's literally a little cubby on the side of a parking garage.

I would hope they would relocate though instead of just closing.

roger wyoming II · PostAug 30, 2015#7282015-08-30T18:30+00:00

According to STL Mag's Mahe, the Boom Boom Room replacing Lola will open next month and something called the A2 Cafe will open in November in the same building on the Washington Ave fronting side... probably would have preferred a retail shop since that's right across from Star Clipper and we need some kind of retail concentration.

Also, it looks like the M/X area flight path is as follows:
Kitchen Sink, late September
Porano Pasta + Gelato, November
Sugarfire Smoke House, December

Seven Zero Eight also is slated to open early next month in the Landing. I think the Boom Boom Room is also burlesque, so that will be two opening around the same time.

urban_dilettante · PostAug 30, 2015#7292015-08-30T21:30+00:00

^ speaking of the Landing, apparently Lumiere is reopening Sundeckers:

http://www.saucemagazine.com/blog/?p=41954

roger wyoming II · PostAug 30, 2015#7302015-08-30T22:23+00:00

^ I guess I'm a bit confused about Lumiere's role here... prior story I had read is that it was two guys (I think recently from Nashville?) who bought the place with plans to make it more of a sports bar and possibly a new name.

downtown2007 · PostAug 31, 2015#7312015-08-31T02:14+00:00

Roger, do you have any more info on A2 cafe?

roger wyoming II · PostAug 31, 2015#7322015-08-31T02:23+00:00

^ No, just that it is actually A2 as in A squared

here is the ins and outs listings:
http://www.stlmag.com/dining/augusts-in ... gust-2015/

downtown2007 · PostAug 31, 2015#7332015-08-31T12:22+00:00

Thanks

bprop · PostAug 31, 2015#7342015-08-31T12:46+00:00

jsbru wrote:
downtown2007 wrote:Stefanos is closing

Not surprising...that was a bad location. I live less than a block from there, and walk past it nearly every day. I routinely forget that there's even a restaurant there. It's literally a little cubby on the side of a parking garage.

I would hope they would relocate though instead of just closing.

Both Stefano's and its predecessor were in that location for five years each. I think lack of visibility would have manifested itself a bit sooner.

debaliviere · PostAug 31, 2015#7352015-08-31T14:31+00:00

roger wyoming II wrote:^ I guess I'm a bit confused about Lumiere's role here... prior story I had read is that it was two guys (I think recently from Nashville?) who bought the place with plans to make it more of a sports bar and possibly a new name.

I think you're thinking of Hannigan's, which will be renamed The Penalty Box.

roger wyoming II · PostAug 31, 2015#7362015-08-31T14:56+00:00

^ Thank you! So basically everything that closed in the Landing is back open or new places coming in. Or at least close? I believe a bakery is also slated to open soon.

True_dope · PostSep 01, 2015#7372015-09-01T00:35+00:00

downtown2007 · PostSep 01, 2015#7382015-09-01T02:02+00:00

Does anyone think they may have this confused with the recent announcement to have a Hortons in Cortex?

roger wyoming II · PostSep 01, 2015#7392015-09-01T03:11+00:00

^ unlikely... she tweeted the dt news after writing the story about the Oct. opening of the cortex location

downtown2007 · PostSep 01, 2015#7402015-09-01T03:15+00:00

I'll take it. Sweet!!!

roger wyoming II · PostSep 01, 2015#7412015-09-01T03:32+00:00

^ If mid-December is the target, I wonder if they have in mind the new space that will be open at the Arcade.... let's fire up the Speculatron!

kbshapiro · PostSep 01, 2015#7422015-09-01T12:55+00:00

Not my place to share where they're going since I wasn't involved in the deal -- but let's just say calling the site "Downtown" a bit of a reach by my definition of Downtown

jakektu · PostSep 01, 2015#7432015-09-01T13:04+00:00

N Tucker by McDonalds and the new bridge ramps?

roger wyoming II · PostSep 01, 2015#7442015-09-01T13:07+00:00

kbshapiro wrote:Not my place to share where they're going since I wasn't involved in the deal -- but let's just say calling the site "Downtown" a bit of a reach by my definition of Downtown

I assume its not new construction, though, right? Will there be a drive-thru?

wabash · PostSep 01, 2015#7452015-09-01T13:17+00:00

Sticking with the Speculatron: maybe down by Broadway Oyster, White Castle, and Old Rock House?

vollum · PostSep 01, 2015#7462015-09-01T13:34+00:00

kbshapiro wrote:Not my place to share where they're going since I wasn't involved in the deal -- but let's just say calling the site "Downtown" a bit of a reach by my definition of Downtown

I'm curious... What is your definition of Downtown?

downtown2007 · PostSep 01, 2015#7472015-09-01T16:13+00:00

kbshapiro wrote:Not my place to share where they're going since I wasn't involved in the deal -- but let's just say calling the site "Downtown" a bit of a reach by my definition of Downtown

That's exactly what I was afraid of.

goat314 · PostSep 01, 2015#7482015-09-01T21:10+00:00

^ We can almost guarantee it will be a suburban design if that's the case.

jsbru · PostSep 02, 2015#7492015-09-02T03:07+00:00

It looks like Empire pizza is now closed for good. There was some speculation about this a while back, but this time, they've moved everything out.

They always seemed busy...I wonder what the deal was. One less late-night place to get food in a place that needs more...

roger wyoming II · PostSep 02, 2015#7502015-09-02T03:24+00:00

^ weren't paying the rent, iirc.

And come to think of it, that might be a good spot for Tim Horton's.

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