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it's pretty obvious to me. It's just on the ride side of the arch, just past Met Square. You can see the tower on top of the building. Unless they have a tenant, I just don't understand how an 80 story building will be built without demand for office space in downtown st louis. St. Louis needs to do more to attract NEW businesses. How about they lease the tower as AT&T's new corporate HQ!? Offer them the incentive of NO state taxes for 20 + years. This was St. Louis' company...

Wow, I never noticed that he had placed his tower on the skyline in that picture. Which suggests he has a specific place in mind for it and I'm trying to figure out where that is. In perspective it's barely taller than met square so that puts it farther west. I would love to believe it's on one of the parking lots by the dome but it doesn't seem like it's north enough in the picture. If not, I wonder what would get torn down to build it...

I like that placement too - cause it leaves the two corner lots around the stadium free for yet another high rise.

^Jmedwick, I thought the same thing. That structure may belong with whatever is in the back ground.

That's what I was thinking as well, JMedwick.

do they even explain the building? I mean its the main feature of their web page ... you'd think they'd explain it

Well, it's fun to speculate, so here's how I see the STL skyline photo: The new tower appears to be just to the South of the Mercantile Tower, and probably a few blocks West. That would put it around Locust and 11th. Are there any potential lots around there?

The NW corner of Locust and 11th is a lot. It's across from UMA and Rooster and next to Blend.

While I would love to think that is the new 81 story tower, looking at the colors with the background, I think that is part of the KC picture. I am not positive because I am not that familiar with KC, but I just don't think that is the MW Tower (if there will ever even be a MW Tower).

^Jmedwick, I thought the same thing. That structure may belong with whatever is in the back ground.

At first I thought this was definately part of the STL skyline, but after really looking at it I see what you're talking about. Someone over there may be having a good laugh about this.



btw, the new tower in the foreground appears to be on the ESTL riverfront.

^ Maybe. Or maybe it's on top of the landfill in Madison, Ill., since it seems to be perched much higher than the arch.

Isn't that the rendering of the 71 story building they said was not the 81 story building they were touting?



As for the discussion about the question if the unknown tower is part of the St. Louis or Kansas City skyline, I would say it almost has to be on the St. Louis skyline. Reason: The colors used for the St. Louis skyline are very dark blue/black, with cobalt blue highlights. The structure in question is illustrated in those colors. The Kansas City skyline is done in basicaly various shades of browns and ochres. A competant artist would not use colors in such a confusing manner so as to portray two different skylines in two different color schemes and switch schemes on one building. (More than likely, these are two different illustrations, the St. Louis skyline superimposed over the Kansas City skyline.)

Also, when looking at the surounding structures in the KC skyline, the structure would not be too tall, perhaps 10 stories at very most, taking into consideration the intensity of hues indicating it's rather close as well as spacing between floors compared to the other nearby structures.

Perhaps those who see it on the K.C. skyline are talking about a different building?

Emporis listed the MW tower in St. Louis at 81 stories. There was no drawing and it was considered as a "vision" whatever that means. There was no such tower listed in KC.

the "building" in question is in KC. It's an elevator penthouse / former clock tower on the corner of a dark brown brick building that McGowan Walsh is actually renovating into residential (Piper Lofts www.piperlofts.com). It's just an illusion that it appears to be in the portion of the StL skyline. You can see the edge of the roof of KC's Union Station which is in front of the "building" in question. The dark color of the brick makes it appear to be the same dark blue hue of the StL skyline photo used for that image.

I've circled the elevator penthouse in the photo of KC's skyline in the image thumbnailed below. The vantage point of this photo is a bit higher off the ground than the one McGowan Walsh used (this is from the top of the Liberty Memorial, there's is from it's base or further down the hill towards Union Station), but you should be able to get the idea...

Thanks for letting us know. I thought it was something in KC. Looked much too small to be a 71/81 floor building in the St. Louis skyline.

yeah, and I wasn't trying to rain on anyone's parade... I hope that tower gets built!! KC would lose it's claim on MO's tallest building, but oh well, it is the smaller metro. I'm looking to make STL my new home anyway

Which building in KC is Missouri's tallest out of curiosity? How tall?

One Kansas City Place is a skyscraper in Downtown Kansas City, Missouri, USA, built in 1988. It is bounded by 12th Street to the north, Baltimore Street to the west, and Main Street to the east. The height of its rooftop is 632 feet (192.6 meters) from the main entrance to the top, making One Kansas City Place the tallest habitable structure (building) in Missouri (2 feet taller at its rooftop than the Gateway Arch in St. Louis, and 21 feet taller at the top of its antenna). The height of its antenna is 651 feet (198.4 meters) from the main entrance to the top.

Well, the building in question certainly does look like the one in the Kansas City photo that KC_visiter was kind enough to post...so much so there is almost no doubt. Because of the colors used, I would have sworn it was on the St. Louis skyline...odd, but stranger things have happened! Thanks for setting me straight on that one, KC_visiter!!

Any news

He just forgot to add the 2007 to May.





One can hope.

Emporis has it listed this project as a "vision" again (It had been listed as "proposed"). Honestly I am not sure how much more privy they are to the status as we are (and seeing as we know nothing -- hey... THROW US A BONE McGowan/Walsh)



http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=mwt ... uis-mo-usa

Why do I have the feeling that this project started as a rumor and somewhow ended up a "real" project? BTW, I heard that a new saloon is opening up somewhere downtown called rusty hinges...



If i hear another person say that there will be an "announcement in the next (insert number here) days" i will scream.

The Central Scrutinizer wrote:

jkl96c wrote:Any news

No, but Kevin McGowan did say there would be an announcement in the next 60 days!

















But he said it last May.