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PostAug 16, 2007#326

innov8ion wrote:^ Not to mention St. Louis! It's "Sahn Lou-wee"


Communist!!! :x

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PostAug 16, 2007#327

BGeldy wrote:In case you haven't seen the logo or the organization's site, here it is:



http://www.stlouissoccerunited.com/



By the way, the logo is AWESOME!!!
Local Muslim football fans might not think so.



Edit: Nevermind, I see it has been discussed to death...

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PostAug 17, 2007#328

DeBaliviere wrote:Most St. Louisans wouldn't know how to properly pronounce "Real."


Uh, I guess I'm one that doesn't know either. So how is it pronounced?

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PostAug 17, 2007#329

bonwich wrote:I'd prefer this one. He'd make a waycool mascot.





Apparently some people in Cape Girardeau agree with you! Nothing formal or official has been proposed, but there is a group interested in bringing minor league baseball to Cape Girardeau, and one of the possible names they've mentioned is the Cape Crusaders.



I'm pretty sure they didn't think of the negative association some make with the name "Crusaders", since political correctness is generally frowned upon in that town. My alma mater is an exception, however, as the Southeast Missouri State Indians became the Redhawks three years ago. 8)

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Framer wrote:
DeBaliviere wrote:Most St. Louisans wouldn't know how to properly pronounce "Real."


Uh, I guess I'm one that doesn't know either. So how is it pronounced?


RAY-AL

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PostAug 17, 2007#331

The Central Scrutinizer wrote:
Framer wrote:
DeBaliviere wrote:Most St. Louisans wouldn't know how to properly pronounce "Real."


Uh, I guess I'm one that doesn't know either. So how is it pronounced?


RAY-AL


Doesn't that depend on what the origin language is supposed to be? ;) If it's Portuguese it should be 'HAY-OW'. :P

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PostOct 09, 2007#332

i hope we dont get a team! they would be a major competitor for google keywords with me

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PostOct 09, 2007#333

FlatFeeKing wrote:i hope we dont get a team! they would be a major competitor for google keywords with me


No they wouldn't.

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PostOct 09, 2007#334

This team isn't in St. Louis City. Why would the team be named after anything relating to St. Louis history. I would vote for St. Louis Sprawlers.

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PostOct 09, 2007#335

^ If teams were named after their host city's present situation, St. Louis wouldn't be the only sprawlers out there. :P

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PostOct 09, 2007#336

We should call them the St Louis Hoosiers, and the official uniform would be cutoff blue jean shorts, a Busch beer wife-beater tank top, and a Dale Jr. baseball cap.

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Tysalpha wrote:^ If teams were named after their host city's present situation, St. Louis wouldn't be the only sprawlers out there. :P


Just let it go. Doug hates anything that isn't in city limits.

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PostOct 09, 2007#338

Hate is a strong word. I would rather see this stadium in an area which needs new office and residential along with the tax revenue they generate, like perhaps Wellston or East St. Louis. Besides the benefits of revenue, they are more centrally located and near transit.

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PostOct 09, 2007#339

Well, Doug is from the far-flung suburbs.

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PostOct 09, 2007#340

^So are many including people like Patterson and Michael Allen. Hopefully we will see more people move here from the far flung suburbs and also from other cities. I think a good way to make our City and region more attractive is to help municipalities like East St. Louis, who can't turn on traffic lights, advance. The view of the East Side from the riverfront is horrible. It needs to be developed. A stadium in ESL could be a catalyst for development which would improve the City aesthetically. So if the stadium isn't going to be in St. Louis City, I can think of better places than Collinsville. But I am sure philanthropy and regional pride probably isn't a factor. This is why I am for the stadium being located elsewhere.

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PostOct 09, 2007#341

I would love to see something like this come in to ESL, and develop the area around it with housing, stores, etc. ESL needs all the help they can get in getting some revenue.

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PostOct 09, 2007#342

I'm from a small town in Central Illinois It has a downtown core that has seen better days. Most of the development is along the major east-west interstate on the northern end of town.



That said I think Collinsville is a good fit for the stadium. Major League Soccer has several stipulations for approving a team. One of those is that it must be part of some sort of soccer complex. Besides Pruitt-Igoe, there really isn't that much room in the City to build what they want. I'd rather see the Pruitt-Igoe site be put to a year-round use than a place that will see action only on a few weekdays and the weekends in spring, summer, and part of the fall.

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PostOct 09, 2007#343

Relocate the nasty ass Cargill plant on the other side of the river front and put the stadium smack in the center directly across from the arch. Add some open views from the inside of the stadium across the river at downtown, and instead of the huge proposed 400 acre development add one or two dense streets on either side (North and South) of the stadium. See what that does for ESL development.

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PostOct 09, 2007#344

Wikipedia wrote:
Soccer-specific stadium is a term used mainly in the United States and Canada. It was coined by Lamar Hunt to refer to a sports stadium whose primary (but not only) purpose is to host football (soccer) matches. An SSS may host other events such as other sporting events (mostly lacrosse and gridiron football), drum and bugle corps competitions, and concerts, but the design and purpose of an SSS is centered on soccer. These venues tend to be located in the suburbs outside the city limits instead of in the city itself, with the current exceptions of Columbus, Ohio and Toronto.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soccer-specific_stadium



Very few soccer-specific stadiums are built within city limits. Sprawl or not, thats the way it is.

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PostOct 09, 2007#345

Juice13610 wrote:
Wikipedia wrote:
Soccer-specific stadium is a term used mainly in the United States and Canada. It was coined by Lamar Hunt to refer to a sports stadium whose primary (but not only) purpose is to host football (soccer) matches. An SSS may host other events such as other sporting events (mostly lacrosse and gridiron football), drum and bugle corps competitions, and concerts, but the design and purpose of an SSS is centered on soccer. These venues tend to be located in the suburbs outside the city limits instead of in the city itself, with the current exceptions of Columbus, Ohio and Toronto.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soccer-specific_stadium



Very few soccer-specific stadiums are built within city limits. Sprawl or not, thats the way it is.


Having been to the Columbus stadium, while it may technically be within Columbus city limits, it is no where near the downtown urban core.

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PostOct 09, 2007#346

"The way it is."



Innovation and comparative advantage does not come from following the status quo and what everyone else does. We need to stop that if we want to be unique and The Place to Be.

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PostOct 09, 2007#347

Im gonna edit that post out until I find some solid-information. I try not to speculate too much ;)

PostOct 09, 2007#348

has anyone seen this? It comes from "MLS Underground" blog at http://mlsunderground.blogspot.com



Odds to Receive a MLS Expansion Franchise



In typical Vegas style, The Las Vegas Sun has put together a short summary of the expansion bids and assigned odds to the cities . The Sun states that ,"high-ranking sources confirmed the validity of [their] list."



Here is a reproduction of the odds:

Atlanta: 100-1

Cleveland: 60-1

Las Vegas: 10-1

Miami: 35-1

Milwaukee: 75-1

New York: 8-1

Philadelphia: 6-1

Phoenix: 20-1

Portland, Ore.: 40-1

San Diego: 100-1

Seattle: 3-2

St. Louis: 4-1

Vancouver: 70-1

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PostOct 09, 2007#349

4-1 odds. That is quite good.

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PostOct 09, 2007#350

Jeff Cooper has a link to that on his website I think. Cuz I know Ive read that already. It might have been on a mls/soccer blog.



[edit]: which wasnt the blog that was linked...

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