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PostJul 09, 2016#676

^^ Article makes some valid points depending on where your building. But also fails to note that some places like California and or Florida the cost to build comparable lane miles for the same carrying capacity is equivalent if not more. Essentially, their is a lot of places where it doesn't make sense and just as their is places where it does.

Another way to argue it, most likely HSR to Los Angeles to Las Vegas isn't going to happen because the traffic and economics just won't justify it nor do you have anything in between to justify another piece of infrastructure at the expense of taxpayers. Where as California pushing HSR between two major metro areas of 18 million people or so with their own expanding rail/transit/subway systems through the Central Valley which in itself has population equivalent to St. Louis metro area is justified on the cost to meet demand by trying to build a third freeway to relieve I-5 and Hwy 99 which budget estimates show to cost even more and most likely to even more land out of productive use.

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PostJul 09, 2016#677

It also doesn't take into account the relative travel tendencies of both countries. How crowded are China's airlines? In my limited anecdotal experience they're rather less crowded than comparable U.S. airlines and airports. Shanghai Pudong, in spite of being the largest airport in the largest city in China, is vastly less busy than O'Hare. (60m passengers annually to 77m. Though freight tonnage is nearly double Chicago's.) Only carries about twice what Lambert did back in TWA days, actually. And since it's so much larger geographically it feels much less crowded. If intercity travel in China is, in general, less per capita the total possible volume you can get might not be that impressive. Our total population is much smaller, but our land area is close. I wouldn't be completely shocked if our total intercity travel is actually higher. (Just guessing. No statistics there.) Certainly there's reason to think we have markets where improved passenger rail might help to alleviate congestion and might make economic sense. It won't work everywhere, to be sure, but I'm still inclined to believe it could work in more places than it presently exists in the U.S.

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PostAug 02, 2016#678

Springfield, IL recipient of TIGER Grant for a grade separation on the new 10th street alignmen $14 million grant on $48 million project, Not sure how much it really helps Lincoln Service or not. Missouri didn't see any awards this time around and believe their wasn't any FASTLANE awards for freightways either.

https://www.transportation.gov/sites/do ... 207-28.pdf

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PostAug 03, 2016#679

10th St consolidation is a big waste of money IMO and puts the trains farther away from the action.
The $100Ms they're spending should be going to double-tracking and adding more trains.

SJ-R - City awarded $14M in federal funding for next phase of rail relocation

http://www.sj-r.com/article/20160726/NE ... 7/0/SEARCH

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PostAug 29, 2016#680

Amtrak's next-generation high-speed trains arrive in 2021

https://www.engadget.com/2016/08/28/amt ... ains-2021/

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PostOct 10, 2016#681

Fox 55 - Carlinville Breaks Ground On New Amtrak Station

http://foxillinois.com/news/local/carli ... ak-station

PostNov 28, 2016#682

Lots of high hopes. Good luck to them.

New Amtrak stop in Arcadia, Mo., comes with big expectations
Nearly half a century had passed since anyone in this small Ozarks community could buy a train ticket out of town.

Now, leaders there are hoping a new Amtrak stop will be more than a way to leave. They anticipate the new station will be a draw that will spur economic development, bolster tourism and bring new jobs.
http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/ ... 1b204.html

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PostNov 29, 2016#683

So what's the progress on the high speed train? Does it still take 5 hours by train to get to CHI? And what's the time frame on reducing that. The idot website doesn't have much info

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PostNov 29, 2016#684

http://www.idothsr.org/

It's currently 5.5 hours. No time has come off the schedule yet. Supposed to next year.

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PostNov 29, 2016#685

It is "supposed" to cut it to under 4 hours.

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PostNov 29, 2016#686

jshank83 wrote:It is "supposed" to cut it to under 4 hours.
Any sense in how realistic that is?

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PostNov 29, 2016#687

I thought under four hours was contingent of some improvements being made between Alton and STL that don't seem to be happening.

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PostNov 29, 2016#688

Not sure. They have been saying that all along so I figure it will at least be close to four hours. The biggest issue is the tracks between STL/Alton and Joilet/Chicago were/are by far the worst and the slowest areas. They are not getting improved because the cost for those areas is really high to fix. It takes almost an hour to get to Alton from here. Those are areas they could make up a bunch of time if they could put some money into those areas. I think you could almost cut off another hour just in those areas if they weren't so outdated.

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MarkHaversham wrote:I thought under four hours was contingent of some improvements being made between Alton and STL that don't seem to be happening.
I haven't seen that said, but you could be right.

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PostNov 29, 2016#690

jshank83 wrote:
MarkHaversham wrote:I thought under four hours was contingent of some improvements being made between Alton and STL that don't seem to be happening.
I haven't seen that said, but you could be right.
Well, my original understanding was a 4 hour timeframe with upgrades made all the way from STL to CHI. That's all I'm basing it on.

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PostNov 29, 2016#691

I found another article that says the current upgrades take a hour off the time. So around 4:30 it sounds like. Hopefully it can be closer to 4:15. We'll see I guess

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PostNov 29, 2016#692

There's some padding between Alton and StL. We arrived 20 mins early on Saturday. It took 35 mins to go from Alton to Stl, still too slow granted.

Here's an update from IDOT. Says

Travel time reduction 45‐minutes (one
hour for express)
50‐minutes (one
hour for express)

http://miprc.org/Portals/7/pdfs/CHI-STL ... AnnMtg.pdf

PostDec 19, 2016#693

Blankenhorn: IDOT continuing high-speed rail upgrades
Service. We are poised to begin rolling out faster speeds in 2017, eventually increasing to 110 mph and shaving an hour off the trip between Chicago and St. Louis. Bottom line: The smoother ride, reduction in travel times, improved reliability, nicer stations, and the convenience of free WiFi service in the stations and on the train promise to make traveling by rail a more enjoyable, even productive, experience.
http://thetelegraph.com/uncategorized/9 ... l-upgrades

PostDec 19, 2016#694

I took a trip to Terre Haute this weekend. On I-70 I saw several cars (and semis) off the road, one car flipped over. Thought it'd be nice if there was STL-Indy passenger service.

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PostDec 19, 2016#695

There was that consideration a few years back when they thought about switching the Cardinal from Chi-DC to Stl-DC.
I think there was lip service about Stl-Ind after they decided against switching the Cardinal.
It makes sense; the line is in decent shape save for a couple blank spots, right?

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PostDec 19, 2016#696

Seems ridiculous that there is not currently any legitimate transportation option to/from STL to/from Indianapolis. But when you consider that these cities are 99%+ dominated by individual car ownership... :shock:

Update: There is Greyhoud service between CBDs.

Is this a viable WN Southwest route?

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PostDec 19, 2016#697

Randy wrote:Seems ridiculous that there is not currently any legitimate transportation option to/from STL to/from Indianapolis. But when you consider that these cities are 99%+ dominated by individual car ownership... :shock:

Update: There is Greyhoud service between CBDs.

Is this a viable WN Southwest route?
I am assuming Southwest doesn't have a route between the two because it is so close but I am a little surprised they don't have even one. They could find a place on the west coast that Indy doesn't have a flight to on southwest (for example SFO/OAK) and have it be a direct with a stop in STL each way. The Indy people don't have to get off the plane but it also gives people the STL-Indy option and they can pick up or drop off people here.

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PostApr 08, 2017#698

It use to take muuuch longer to get to Chicago. I'm pleased with the improvements.

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PostApr 09, 2017#699

Why are trains so expensive?

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PostApr 10, 2017#700

Don't think they mentioned the budget for the FAA is $15B

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