Looks like there is finally some movement on this project. From the DECEMBER 11, 2006 Planning Commission Meeting.
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Downtown Chesterfield (Overall/Internal Road System) Partial Amended Site Development Concept Plan: A Partial Amended Site Development Concept Plan, Tree Stand Delineation Plan, Tree Preservation Plan, Lighting Plan, and Landscape Plan for a 15.96 acre lot of land zoned "C-8" "Planned Commercial District" located on the northwest corner of Chesterfield Parkway West and Lydia Hill Road.
APPROVED BY A VOTE OF 7 TO 1.
Downtown Chesterfield (HOK1) Site Development Section Plan: A Site Development Section Plan, Architectural Elevations, Lighting Plan, and Landscape Plan for a 4.65 acre lot of land zoned "C-8" "Planned Commercial District" located on the northwest corner of Chesterfield Parkway West and Lydia Hill Road.
APPROVED, WITH CONDITIONS, BY A VOTE OF 7 TO 1.
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Downtown Chesterfield (Overall/Internal Road System) Partial Amended Site Development Concept Plan: A Partial Amended Site Development Concept Plan, Tree Stand Delineation Plan, Tree Preservation Plan, Lighting Plan, and Landscape Plan for a 15.96 acre lot of land zoned "C-8" "Planned Commercial District" located on the northwest corner of Chesterfield Parkway West and Lydia Hill Road.
APPROVED BY A VOTE OF 7 TO 1.
Downtown Chesterfield (HOK1) Site Development Section Plan: A Site Development Section Plan, Architectural Elevations, Lighting Plan, and Landscape Plan for a 4.65 acre lot of land zoned "C-8" "Planned Commercial District" located on the northwest corner of Chesterfield Parkway West and Lydia Hill Road.
APPROVED, WITH CONDITIONS, BY A VOTE OF 7 TO 1.
^ Oh not at all. Sure it might be great if this wasn't so far out, but at least the newly developing suburbs are starting to understand the value in center based development. It might have been better if Chesterfield had been on the ball about this 10 years ago after the flood, but all in all, I am pleased to see that some dense, somewhat urban style development is taking place in places like Chesterfield and Creve COure.
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From the Mayor
Imagine walking out your front door in the morning to the local coffee shop where you leisurely enjoy a cup of your favorite brew and take in the day’s news. You then walk to work, where nearly every employee has a fantastic view of a lake surrounded by acres of park grounds. After work, you and your family enjoy outdoor dining at a local restaurant, take in a theater production from STAGES St. Louis and meet friends afterwards for a causal get together—and it’s all right here in Chesterfield. Soon, you won’t just imagine it…you’ll be able to live it! Yes, Chesterfield has a new “downtown” on the way, thanks to the leadership and vision of Louis Sachs of Sachs Properties—a vision that is finally coming to fruition within the area known as Chesterfield Village.
Located within the City’s “urban core”, within approximately 150 acres west of Westfield Shoppingtown-Chesterfield, Downtown Chesterfield will be like nothing else found in the region. The first phase, spanning from Lydia Hill to Burkardt Place, will encompass 20 acres in an area adjacent to the St. Louis County Library, the YMCA and the City’s Central Park. The first structure you’ll see is the five-story Central Park Square One office building, which will be constructed at the northwest corner of Lydia Hill and Chesterfield Parkway West early this spring. Future plans for this area include 26,000 square feet of restaurant and retail space and an additional office building similar to Central Park Square One.
The next phase of Downtown Chesterfield will be located within a 100-acre area to the north of Burkhart Place and includes plans for additional office, retail, restaurant, and residential areas. The area on the east side of Chesterfield Parkway West, adjacent to the new STAGES St. Louis Performing Arts Center, includes plans for large office buildings and/or restaurant sites.
The residential portion of this area is called The Reserve at Chesterfield Village and is being developed by the Hayden Company. The Reserve will consist of 190 units, mixing single-family homes, luxury villas and mid-rise condos. Construction on these homes will start November 15 with all
of the homes, businesses, shops and parks within Downtown Chesterfield being connected by sidewalks and trails. Additionally, a relocation
of WildHorse Creek Road is currently under construction. When completed, traffic will be allowed to flow continuously, by-passing the current “T” intersection near the trailer park on its east end of Wild Horse Creek Road.
Through a partnership between the City and Sachs Properties, two recreational lakes are also under construction, one of which the City will own and incorporate as part of Central Park. The lakes will be jointly used by the City and businesses in the area as a backdrop to the Downtown Chesterfield design. Both lakes will serve as regional detention and will allow for recreational amenities, along with complementing the future riparian trail that will connect to Chesterfield Valley. Lake amenities may include boardwalks, fishing and paddle boats.
Another key part to Downtown Chesterfield is STAGES St.Louis, which has just moved its corporate offices to Chesterfield in the current location of their Performing Arts Center at 444 Chesterfield Center. STAGES St. Louis anticipates breaking ground on their new Performing Arts Center in late spring of 2007, with plans to open in 2008 just in time for a holiday production. This $30 million project will house the Midwest’s leading performing arts center for musical theater performance and education. The complex will include a 730-seat main theater, a 200-seat smaller theater and a year round performing arts academy offering classes in voice, dance and drama for nearly 2,000 children and adults alike. Nearly 200,000 patrons will visit STAGES each year, which will employ more than 100 local theater professionals and generate a huge economic impact for Chesterfield. Please join me in welcoming STAGES St. Louis to Chesterfield by purchasing a subscription to their final 2007 season in Kirkwood at the Robert G. Reim Theatre. Visit www.stagesstlouis.org for more information or to make a donation.
As you can see, we are very fortunate and very excited to have such a project coming to us in Chesterfield. It will only enhance what we, as residents of Chesterfield, already know as one of the region’s best places to live, work and recreate.
John Nations
Mayor
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Personally I think that phase II looks pretty darn sweet. I predict this will be wildly successful in Chesterfield.
Phase II looks like a ton of retail. I just don't know between all the stores in the mall and the valley that's there's enough supply/demand to justify something of that scope.
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I think it will be a great success for some time, but I can see in 15 years that it will be something like Northwest Plaza and 15 years later it's empty because the next great idea in retail has come along. I guess there's just too much money to be made by putting up whatever's in fashion.
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Not sure what to think about this - judging from the phase one pic, pahse two looks about 2 miles away in the far top right corner - not exactly walkable. Phase one in general looks like a glorified office/government park, while phase two looks like intense mixed use...but no open space aside from the "lake" and surrounds.
I know this is in the preliminary stages, but I think there needs to be a lot of work done on this. My god, the phase one parking lot to the right looks about a day's journey from the clamshell thingy - whatever the hell that is (performing arts center?), and the buildings in general for phase one look really uninspired.
Phase two really just looks like a general ripoff of newtown St. Charles, which just ripped off Americatown at Disneyland (as my girlfriend called it once). Gugch - I hate NewVomit. You know this thing won't have an ounce of real brick on any of it.
I want to believe Chesterfield is creating an urban environment and sense of place, but I don't see it being done right, and I'd rather have them not do anything than do it wrong.
I know this is in the preliminary stages, but I think there needs to be a lot of work done on this. My god, the phase one parking lot to the right looks about a day's journey from the clamshell thingy - whatever the hell that is (performing arts center?), and the buildings in general for phase one look really uninspired.
Phase two really just looks like a general ripoff of newtown St. Charles, which just ripped off Americatown at Disneyland (as my girlfriend called it once). Gugch - I hate NewVomit. You know this thing won't have an ounce of real brick on any of it.
I want to believe Chesterfield is creating an urban environment and sense of place, but I don't see it being done right, and I'd rather have them not do anything than do it wrong.
Miguel, that clam shell thingy is already there. It is the new public library branch right along Chesterfield Parkway at the intersection with Burkhart Place or whatever the street to the West County Y is called.
Yeah, I know, what's good for the region is good for the whole, but something really bugs me about this. I don't know, maybe it's the whole "we want the city without actually going to the City" idea.
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/busine ... enDocument
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/busine ... enDocument
This is particularly obnoxious:
"We would also like the St. Louis Symphony to have a summer home here in Chesterfield," said Kathy Higgins, president of Sachs Properties.
Cultural resources like the Missouri Botanical Garden, the St. Louis Zoo, as well as public libraries and parks get funded by tax money from all county residents, Sachs said, but the bulk of them are located within St. Louis City."
Create your own cultural resources.
The symphony may be lured away with enough money, but the Garden and Zoo probably aren't going anywhere.
"We would also like the St. Louis Symphony to have a summer home here in Chesterfield," said Kathy Higgins, president of Sachs Properties.
Cultural resources like the Missouri Botanical Garden, the St. Louis Zoo, as well as public libraries and parks get funded by tax money from all county residents, Sachs said, but the bulk of them are located within St. Louis City."
Create your own cultural resources.
The symphony may be lured away with enough money, but the Garden and Zoo probably aren't going anywhere.
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The Zoo is such a rip. Costs too much to go to if you ask me. Public Libraries...are you serious? Does that make any sense. There are public libraries in the county right? That's a new one. This article is stupid and should be ignored.
Yes. In fact, one of those public libraries is right next to this development.ChrisInDownTown wrote: There are public libraries in the county right?
"We would also like the St. Louis Symphony to have a summer home here in Chesterfield," said Kathy Higgins, president of Sachs Properties. Cultural resources like the Missouri Botanical Garden, the St. Louis Zoo, as well as public libraries and parks get funded by tax money from all county residents, Sachs said, but the bulk of them are located within St. Louis City.
"We would like to bring at least pieces of those to other places, to Chesterfield," Higgins said.
One word. Stupid.
I guess Kirkwood, Florissant, Moline Acres, Berkeley, Black Jack, Wildwood and all of the other umpteen municipalities are going to want their "piece" as well.
I tell ya.......
One step forward, ten backwards.
maybe the zoo can just send them a couple of those monkeys with the red butts.
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did they scale back the height of that office building in that pic? I thought it was 7 floors, now it looks like its only 5 floors.steve wrote:Yeah, I know, what's good for the region is good for the whole, but something really bugs me about this. I don't know, maybe it's the whole "we want the city without actually going to the City" idea.
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/busine ... enDocument
Those amenities in the city are there for a reason. The city built them, not Chesterfield.
I was talking about this with a co-worker earlier. It just seems weird to 'create' a downtown area. Downtowns are areas that are built up, not just created, because we need one. It's about having a business center. Chesterfield has long ignored the option of having a downtown, preferring to spread things around the entire community instead. And now they're paying for it.
I was talking about this with a co-worker earlier. It just seems weird to 'create' a downtown area. Downtowns are areas that are built up, not just created, because we need one. It's about having a business center. Chesterfield has long ignored the option of having a downtown, preferring to spread things around the entire community instead. And now they're paying for it.
P-D, 2004 wrote:Stages St. Louis has chosen Brinkmann Constructors to build its new $15 million theater and education complex at Chesterfield Village in Chesterfield. Construction is slated to begin on the 60,000-square-foot building late next year. The architect is Pellham Phillips Architects & Engineers of Springfield, Mo. The new facility will include two theaters, performing-arts academy and support space. It's scheduled to open in 2007. Sachs Properties, the developer of Chesterfield Village, donated 7.5 acres for the center. Stages St. Louis operates today in the Robert G. Reim Theatre at the Kirkwood Civic Center.
Clearly, the concept of flim-flamming schedules to make it appear that something is happening when it isn't is not confined to the City limits. (The Stages theatre isn't even started yet, despite the impression that may have been left by our story.)
It is so weird to see Chesterfield continue to want to steal from the city.
They take residence, employment and now culture.
Why cant they be Chesterfield??? O. Urban is now the cool in thing!!! Its time to change Chesterfield and make it a city.
They take residence, employment and now culture.
Why cant they be Chesterfield??? O. Urban is now the cool in thing!!! Its time to change Chesterfield and make it a city.
i don't think it's really that big of a deal if the orchestra goes out to chesterfield valley to play a few performances at some point in the future (as long as it doesn't become permanent). the boston symphony orchestra has a summer home @ tanglewood in the berkshires. chesterfield ain't the berkshires no doubt, but the difference here is the current state of development in DT st. louis v. DT boston. DT boston doesn't have any problems drawing people to it like the 'lou does. we shouldn't be taking things that have good drawing power away from the city at this stage.
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Chicago Symphony Orchestra has its "summer home" in Ravinia, in the wealthy suburb of Highland Park. It's an ugly little park, surrounded by noo-voh reesh houses and parking lots, but from the advertisements around town you'd think it was Yosemite National Park. (Why don't they play in Millenium Park? It's all about the subscribers.)
That's probably a model for Herr Sachs of Chesterfield.
Nevertheless his plan is perverse, and it perfectly captures the economic idiocies of sprawl. First comes speculative development and the gratuitous destruction of farmland, then comes tax-payer dollars wasted on exurban infrastructure, then comes abandonment of the city & the inner ring suburbs. Taking away the cultural amenities from the city is just tearing the last meat from the carcass. The guy is a vulture.
That's probably a model for Herr Sachs of Chesterfield.
Nevertheless his plan is perverse, and it perfectly captures the economic idiocies of sprawl. First comes speculative development and the gratuitous destruction of farmland, then comes tax-payer dollars wasted on exurban infrastructure, then comes abandonment of the city & the inner ring suburbs. Taking away the cultural amenities from the city is just tearing the last meat from the carcass. The guy is a vulture.