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PostMay 14, 2007#26

The Symphony used to play at the MRF at SIUE 20-30 years ago -- way before Edwardsville was really considered suburban St. Louis. It was great.



I don't know how big the Stages facility is supposed to be, but I just can't see there being a large enough venue for the Symphony. Plus, as noted in other threads, the whole Stages thing is typical announce-it-and-then-pretend-it's-real developers' hype, so I doubt we're looking at anything with the next decade.

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PostMay 15, 2007#27

Chesterfield already has a Downtown.






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PostMay 15, 2007#28

^LOLOL!

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PostMay 15, 2007#29

Suburban Lou wrote:Chesterfield already has a Downtown.







:lol:



But you forgot the trailer park! 8)

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PostMay 15, 2007#30

This is one of my problems with New Urbanism. It tries to create artificially what occurred elsewhere naturally. And it really fails! New Urbanism, with its suburban downtowns, will never compete with the central city in terms of culture, density, or architectural diversity.



People want aspects of the City yet do not want to pay the extra cost, whether earnings tax or schools, for those benefits. Sorry but you can't have it both ways! No matter how many TDD's or TIF's you issue, your planned community will not even come close to real urbanism.



I also question the utility of attempting this replication when public dollars should be spent, through revenue sharing, on what already exists! Rather than zero sum replication of services and fighting over retail, Improve the City itself so the schools are better and there is no need for an earnings tax. This could be done through regional revenue sharing and increased cooperation and planning. As the services within the City improve, and the cost declines, people move back instead of creating "faux urbanism." Those who do not want urbanism will remain in the suburbs.



Yet people do not get elected by promoting a reduction in population and business within their own district even if it is for the greater good of the region.

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PostMay 15, 2007#31

People want aspects of the City yet do not want to pay the extra cost, whether earnings tax or schools, for those benefits.


This topic is really about what people want. The fact is, we don't know. Maybe the babyboomers will continue to gravitate towards these planned downtowns/communities. They'll work if there's enough demand. It may not be until after that generation passes that efforts like this begin to fail.

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PostMay 15, 2007#32

It irritates me because I am paying for their social security. Not only do they have horrible taste but I am indirectly funding it!



I think my generation will basically categorically reject all suburban life, that being the choice of their parents. That is my hope.

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PostMay 17, 2007#33

Welcome to: ANYWHERE IN AMERICA...



I just puked all over my keyboard.. gross.

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PostOct 29, 2007#34

Renderings for a few of the new buildings, plus a webcam.





100,000 square foot building





Downtown's Entrance





Building for a restaurant





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Park & Main: Downtown Chesterfield

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PostOct 29, 2007#35

Looks like there is no street parking allowed in the main entrace to Chesterfield...see rendering in Arch City's post above.

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PostOct 29, 2007#36

wow... I didn't even realize they had started construction..

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PostOct 29, 2007#37

WOW why did they even bother, they should have just threw up another Wal-Mart Super center.



This project looks cheap, conservative, and insular just like the city of Chesterfield and West County in general.

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PostOct 30, 2007#38

It's so....*sniff*...beautiful. :roll:



I would have expected nothing less from the Chesterfield area.

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PostOct 30, 2007#39

I own several condo units at the Monarch Trace. I pass by this development weekly. Their almost done with that Central Park Square I building. Seems their trying to get this developed quick, land is being cleared around the library, looks like construction will get underway once the first building is finished. :)

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PostNov 01, 2007#40

ABENGOA BIOENERGY CORP. DOUBLES SIZE OF CHESTERFIELD HEADQUARTERS

St. Louis Commerce Magazine

November 2007






Central Park Square Office I



Booming demand for ethanol has biofuel producer Abengoa Bioenergy Corp. doubling the size of its U.S. headquarters at Chesterfield Village in Chesterfield, Mo. A division of Abengoa S.A., Abengoa Bioenergy will lease more than 30,000 square feet of space in Central Park Square Office I when it is completed in 2008. Based in Seville, Spain, Abengoa is the second-largest producer of ethanol in the world, according to the company.



“World demand for ethanol continues to propel unprecedented growth in our business,” stated Javier Salgado, president and CEO of Abengoa Bioenergy. “The need for energy independence has combined with the environmentally-friendly aspects of ethanol to spur development of ethanol facilities. This month, we will open our fourth ethanol plant in the U.S. We also have four additional plants in various stages of development in the U.S., and similar numbers in operation and development in Europe.”



Abengoa Bioenergy moved to Chesterfield Village in 2002 from Wichita, Kan., and currently employs approximately 75 people in St. Louis with plans to hire as many as 50 new employees in the near future.



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PostNov 01, 2007#41

A larger rendering.





An artist's rendition of Central Park Square Office I, currently being developed in Chesterfield, Mo., by Sachs Properties. Abengoa Bioenergy will lease more than 30,000 square feet in the office building when it is completed.



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PostNov 02, 2007#42

I've heard of cookie cutter homes, but cookie cutter headquaters? Don't these companies have pride anymore? I seriously can't tell the difference between this building and any other mid-rise office park in the country!

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PostNov 02, 2007#43

^ what about cookie cutter downtowns!?!?

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PostNov 02, 2007#44

I actually don't mind the looks of this building. Much nicer than most suburban offices.



Speaking of suburban office design, does anyone know if Sachs is still planning to build that mid-rise building in Chesterfield Village that was designed by Richard Meier?

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PostNov 02, 2007#45

I am kind of bored by the buildings in the renderings. However, it is better than the building I am in now in Westport and the building I was in when I was at Maritz.

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PostNov 02, 2007#46

"We would also like the St. Louis Symphony to have a summer home here in Chesterfield," said Kathy Higgins, president of Sachs Properties. Cultural resources like the Missouri Botanical Garden, the St. Louis Zoo, as well as public libraries and parks get funded by tax money from all county residents, Sachs said, but the bulk of them are located within St. Louis City.



"We would like to bring at least pieces of those to other places, to Chesterfield," Higgins said.


Wow. What a moron. I live in Fairview and would be extremely pissed off if they started building knock-off attractions like a mini-zoo or mini-science center. Stuff like that is SUPPOSED to be in the city as far as I'm concerned.

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PostNov 02, 2007#47

^I think everyone on this board is in aggreement with that statement.



"Entrance to downtown"



HAHA. I laughed my ass off at that. WHAT A JOKE! This is exactly what's wrong with this type of an idea.

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PostAug 26, 2008#48

any new updates?

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PostOct 02, 2018#49

stlien wrote:
Aug 26, 2008
any new updates?
Well its been over a decade - but here is an update!

I remember seeing the first plan for "downtown Chesterfield" about 2001 - the guy who was involved at that time told me it was a 20 year build out - who would have guessed it would take 17 years to start

https://www.kmov.com/news/chesterfield- ... cd982.html

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PostOct 02, 2018#50

Catch the thrill.

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