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PostSep 13, 2006#51

DeBaliviere wrote:From the Arch City Chronic(what?)cle:


14th Street Mall Plan Unveiled



Karen Heet



In the face of speculator acquisition and the deterioration of the existing buildings, plans to renovate the 14th Street Mall in Old North St. Louis were revealed August 29th at a community meeting held by the Old North St. Louis Restoration Group (ONSLRG).



Phase 1 of the plan is a $25-30 million renovation of the historical buildings on the mall, which span a two-block area from St. Louis Avenue to Warren Street in the 5th Ward. The 14th Street Mall Association, a partnership between ONSLRG and the Regional Housing and Community Development Alliance (RHCDA), now has site control of the majority of the buildings on the mall, and the group is currently in discussions with the four remaining property owners.



Sean Thomas, executive director of ONSLRG, says that pre-development financing has been secured, and the 14th Street Mall Association aims to close on the renovation financing in the spring of 2007. Construction will begin immediately after financing is in place.



The plan calls for opening the pedestrian mall to cars and renovating the historic buildings on the Mall into mixed-use venues for live/work spaces, apartments and retail stores. Green building components are being considered. The 14th Street Mall Association will maintain ownership of the buildings in order to qualify for federal historic tax credits. State historic tax credits, new market tax credits and tax abatement will also be used to offset the renovation costs of the project. The architectural firm Rosemann & Associates has developed the site plan, and E.M. Harris will be the general contractor for the renovations.



Crown Candy Kitchen, at the north end of the Mall, has been a neighborhood anchor since 1913. Standing-room-only lines await customers most days at lunchtime. The 14th Street Mall Association hopes that the retail activity from Crown will drift south into the Mall area once it is completed.



With the Edward Jones Dome and the Arch centered in view, The 14th Street Mall is located in the quaint residential neighborhood of Old North St. Louis: a tight-knit community that was an independent village until it merged with the City of St. Louis in 1841. The neighborhood is bound by I-70 to the east, Branch Street to the north, N. Florissant to the west and Cass Avenue to the south.



The Mall was first closed to vehicular traffic on March 26, 1977 during a national trend toward pedestrian malls. The idea failed miserably, and as the city population declined in the late 70s and early 80s, many of the Mall’s buildings became vacant.



Hopes and visions for rejuvenating the Mall rose often over the years. Site plans were made, and residents gave their input, but no one had control of the site. More than 20 different people owned property on the Mall. Many individual owners could not get financing to renovate their properties, and no one entity had the means to purchase and renovate all the property at once.



Interest was renewed two years ago when a developer from Atlanta got contracts for most of the properties on the mall and looked capable of financing the project. However, the developer disappeared amid speculations of fraud, and fears arose among the community that an outside party could determine the fate of the Mall. This became the impetus for the creation of the 14th Street Mall Association.



Residential development activity has been heavy in the southern part of the neighborhood as the ONSLRG, again in partnership with RHCDA, has formed the North Market Place Redevelopment Area, which is renovating and constructing new single- and multi-family homes. The North Market Place Homes range in price from $156 to $192 thousand for a 1,500 to 2,000 square-foot home. Eight of the eleven new homes have received funding from the Affordable Housing Commission and therefore have been built using Universal Design, which creates ease of use for people of all abilities and ages.



Ralph Wafer is the architect for the North Market Place Homes and was chosen because of his previous work with many homeowners in the neighborhood. Vatterot is the general contractor for the project.



Kennedy & Associates is the firm that handles the North Market Apartments, and general contractor E.M. Harris is making renovations. The apartments meet “affordable” guidelines, so renters who make 80 percent of the median income are eligible for one- to three-bedroom apartments from $395 to $625 per month. The Lipton Group has the management contract and has seen a growing waiting list for the apartments.



Development opportunities abound north of the 14th Street Mall, as well. The Land Reutilization Authority (LRA) has requested proposals for five large areas for renovation or infill. More information can be found on the city’s website at http://www.stlouis.missouri.org/develop ... e/onslrfp/


Thanks for the article.



So when was this street mall at it's prime? I moved here in 1978 and have no memory of it. (I was 8 years old and living a sheltered existence in Ballwin)

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PostSep 21, 2006#52

Pedestrian mall in Old North St. Louis to be redeveloped

Tom Weber, KWMU



ST. LOUIS (2006-09-20) The famed Crown Candy Kitchen in Old North St. Louis is in line to get some new neighbors.



A group that's charged with reviving the Old North neighborhood recently announced plans for the 14th Street Mall, the row of abandoned buildings across the street from Crown Candy.



The plans include opening 14th Street back up to traffic and reopening more than 20 buildings for people to live, shop and work in.



The Old North St. Louis Restoration Group is heading the effort.



It hopes to start construction next spring.

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PostSep 21, 2006#53

A blight turn on 14th Street

By Rebecca Roussell

ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH

09/21/2006



A once thriving, but now dilapidated, section of Old North St. Louis is slated for a makeover.



The 14th Street Mall, between St. Louis Avenue and Warren Street, was a shopping hub in the 1970s. Today, the blighted block features boarded-up buildings.



But two St. Louis-based non-profit organizations are moving ahead with a $25-million effort to restore the area as part of an overall revitalization effort for the neighborhood.



The project is set to break ground early next year and will take about 18 months to complete



The Old North St. Louis Restoration Group and the Regional Housing and Community Development Alliance together have invested about $1.5 million into the restoration. The rest will come from grants, loans, and state and federal tax credits.



"There have been numerous community planning efforts that have happened over the past 20 years or so," said Sean Thomas, executive director for the restoration group. "All those plans went nowhere and our two organizations decided that we needed to take the initiative and get a hold of the property."



Plans call for opening up the street, which is now closed to traffic.



"What we call the 14th Street Mall really won't be a mall anymore," said Stephen Acree, executive director of the regional housing alliance. "It will really be turned into a residential development with some commercial space."



There will be 20,000 square feet of commercial and retail space on the street, and at least 90 mixed-income rental apartments, ranging from 800 to 1,400 square feet. Kansas City-based Rosemann & Associates P.C. designed the project and St. Louis-based E.M. Harris Construction Company is responsible for building.

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PostSep 22, 2006#54

"What we call the 14th Street Mall really won't be a mall anymore," said Stephen Acree, executive director of the regional housing alliance. "It will really be turned into a residential development with some commercial space."



This is the only thing that concerns me. If much of the mall is turned into residential then that will limit the types of establishments that go in there. You can't have bars, nightclubs or even late night restaurants mixed in with a bunch of residential. People will complain about noise. They'll put in some 9-5pm boutiques and the place will be dead after the work hours. I would just love to see a north side area with a vibrant nightlife.

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PostSep 22, 2006#55

Damn right stellar.

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PostSep 22, 2006#56

whoa now,



Yes, a vibrant northside destination, but not every urban neighborhood needs to be a hot destination > a city is made up of people who live in residential neighborhoods first



That end should be honored first and foremost

Nightlife is up to the individual neighborhood whether that be heavily patronized bars, jazz bar, blues bar, neighborhood festivals, neighborhood BBQs. etc...



People first, organicly developed entertainment sometime later

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PostSep 22, 2006#57

SMSPlanstu wrote:whoa now,



Yes, a vibrant northside destination, but not every urban neighborhood needs to be a hot destination > a city is made up of people who live in residential neighborhoods first



That end should be honored first and foremost

Nightlife is up to the individual neighborhood whether that be heavily patronized bars, jazz bar, blues bar, neighborhood festivals, neighborhood BBQs. etc...



People first, organicly developed entertainment sometime later


I agree with stellar somewhat, but I also realize that there is not yet the demand to fill all of the storefronts quite yet. It is better to get the project going before these buildings collapse and let the market pressure turn the residential first floor units into retail space as demand grows.



I'm also always leery of "mixed income" as it usually is a euphemism for something worse. Still, I can't complain because this entire strip will be rejuvinated and spark development in the surrounding area.



I just wish the same would happen for the area surrounding the Grand Water Tower. That is probably a little ways away though... :cry:

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PostOct 25, 2006#58

Another article:


Old North St. Louis readies for comeback

Redevelopment project to help revive historic neighborhood



By Walter Pritchard

Tuesday, October 24, 2006 11:18 PM CDT



The historic area just north of downtown St. Louis is poised for a comeback thanks to a $25 million redevelopment plan in a neighborhood that was the site of the old 14th Street Mall.



The Regional Housing and Community Development Agency and the Old North St. Louis Restoration Group have partnered to save and rehabilitate the 25-building area.



Plans call for contemporary mixed-use residential and retail space that could become the nucleus for the rebirth of the Old North St. Louis neighborhood, said Sean Thomas, executive director of the restoration group.



"The mall is the centerpiece and will get a bulk of the development," Thomas said. "The project will bring back the 'town hall center' of this particular neighborhood. It'll show that new development can happen in North St. Louis."


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PostOct 31, 2006#59

They should create a TIF district as well.

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PostOct 31, 2006#60

you can't do a TIF unless its in the county supporting a giant strip mall .... the Post simply wont stand for its use in the city to redevelope blighted lands

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PostOct 31, 2006#61

Plus, this area doesn't need a TIF - any developer would be crazy to not see the potential this area has. They're going to make a killing and they don't need my tax dollars to do it!



(This post is entirely sarcastic)

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PostOct 31, 2006#62

Why couldn't TIF's be issued?



They are issued for shopping malls all across the City and for BPV?



Why can't areas of North St. Louis have TIF too?



I mean we are using them for other projects so couldn't they be used for these projects too?



This project is already underway, but other areas of North St. Louis might be developed with the aid of TIF.

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PostOct 31, 2006#63

^I would wager that last part about being sarcastic meant he didn't mean it.

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PostOct 31, 2006#64

[sarcasm] New retail development along the mall, supported by TIF, would just suck dollars away from the existing independent retailers in the surrounding neighborhoods who don't benefit from TIF.



And how can you prove that money spent in these new stores will really help the neighborhood? [/sarcasm]

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PostNov 29, 2006#65

The 14th Street Mall is the subject of a podcast on MayorSlay.com:



http://www.mayorslay.com/podcasts/

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PostDec 06, 2006#66

I really don't think ONSL can every make the 14th street mall like it was 30 years ago this neigborhood won't every be like it was back then . I have been here over 44 years and my husband has been around this neigborhood all his life and neither one of us are real thrilled with the way the new houses look they look so cheap . We do like what they have done with the old buildings around N. Market Place . But has for the 14th Street Mall I don't think they'll every pull it off as a hot stop for the area again .

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PostDec 06, 2006#67

I really don't think ONSL can every make the 14th street mall like it was 30 years ago this neigborhood won't every be like it was back then . I have been here over 44 years and my husband has been around this neigborhood all his life and neither one of us are real thrilled with the way the new houses look they look so cheap . We do like what they have done with the old buildings around N. Market Place . But has for the 14th Street Mall I don't think they'll every pull it off as a hot stop for the area again .


What do you think it would take to make this a hot stop again? What's missing and how would we get it back?

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PostDec 07, 2006#68

The one thing we don't need is alot of bars and eating places . We need a grocery store and not Big B's that is a place they need to really get out of this neighborhood . I can Remember when you never had to leave this neighborhood to get anything and you could walk to get what every you wanted . You know my neighbor every time she need to go the grocery store and if nobody is here to take her then she has to get call a ride to come and get her to carry her all the way to south St. Louis to go to a grocery store are to even get her prescriptions filled . We had little stores all over this neighborhood and bars on almost every corner . Times have changed us kids never hung out on the corners and the bars everyone stayed inside to drink and not out seeing who they could give hell we use to live down on N. Market and Blair over where Johnnie's bar is I never remember hearing loud music are anybody going to the bar borthering us while we was out side playing we did't have to worry about somebody driving by to shoot up the place and I can't remember hearing any foul mouth drunks either . I just don't see this neighborhood being the way it was years ago.

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PostDec 07, 2006#69

I agree with needing the basics - drug store, groceries, hardware. I would rather see these things move into a neighborhood before too many restaurants and bars. It seems that developers want restaurants so they can show off the neighborhood - maybe they're a lot smarter than I am.

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PostDec 14, 2006#70

cjkranz wrote:I really don't think ONSL can every make the 14th street mall like it was 30 years ago...


I hope nobody wants to return to the conditions of 30 years ago when city planners came up with the concept of closing off the street as a way of reviving the declining commercial district. Residents and businesses were leaving the area 30 years ago, and that trend continued up until recent years when new, community-based efforts started turning the tide. The massive loss of population is why the new plan for the 14th Street project needs to focus on rebuilding the population base that will then be able to support the retail and commercial services that everyone wants in the neighborhood.

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PostDec 15, 2006#71

I hope so to cause the wrost thing that every happen was them doing that . But us old timers that has been in this neighborhood for most of are lives are more worried about places like a drug store , are place to shop for food . It would be great if Wal-Mart would come and put a big shopping center on Florissant somewhere . Don't get me wrong I like the old neighborhood but I also like not having to drive so far to do my shopping either . And since they already messed are neighborhood up with all these cheap looking houses then it's not going to hurt it any worse if Wal-Mart would come and build a store here .

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PostMar 06, 2007#72

Any progress happening with the Mall? I haven't been by there in over a month, but didn't see any progress at the time. Any updates from residents? There hasn't been a post to this thread in 3 months.

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PostMar 06, 2007#73

Wal-Mart? That is the last thing we need in the City. Say good by to ONSL's character. If a Wal-Mart comes, so will ugly infill housing. The area might explode in terms of construction, but given our zoning codes, and since ONSL is not a local historic district, you will see a lot of suburban housing. Look at Delmar in Kennedy's Ward as an example. ONSLRG, in my opinion, needs some sort of controls over new infill construction. Eventually people will begin construction of newer housing which some might consider undesirable. To control this, action needs to be taken.

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PostMar 06, 2007#74

Wal-Mart? That is the last thing we need in the City. Say good by to ONSL's character.


More like "good buy"!



(that's a joke)

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PostMar 06, 2007#75

Grover wrote:
Wal-Mart? That is the last thing we need in the City. Say good by to ONSL's character.


More like "good buy"!



(that's a joke)


Ah, nice. You know I meant the "e."

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