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Post4:16 AM - Aug 05#451

That design is certainly more Gate District esque


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Post4:44 AM - Aug 05#452

stldotage wrote:
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1415-17 Dodier - 2-unit infill project under construction (see the real estate listing here).

Good for new housing. Terrible design.

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Post7:35 AM - Aug 05#453

Personally not a fan. Looks like something out of Houston or Austin. There are parts of St. Louis I would be more fond of it, but Old North and Hyde Park really have an architectural style that I would prefer keeping the historic fabric. Understand that these lots have been long vacant and we need new housing and infill in these neighborhoods, so I am overall positive and hope it jumpstarts more rehab and tasteful infill on the northside!


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Post4:13 PM - Aug 05#454

delmar2debaliviere2downtown wrote:
7:35 AM - Aug 05
Personally not a fan. Looks like something out of Houston or Austin. There are parts of St. Louis I would be more fond of it, but Old North and Hyde Park really have an architectural style that I would prefer keeping the historic fabric. Understand that these lots have been long vacant and we need new housing and infill in these neighborhoods, so I am overall positive and hope it jumpstarts more rehab and tasteful infill on the northside!


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Well...brace yourself. This developer (Kendall Developments) is building a decidedly contemporary "New Town in Old North" on the 1400 block of Monroe. Below is a rendering of 1404 Monroe:
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Permits were actually issued in late 2024. I'm not sure if any of the proposed units has actually been built though. Does anyone know for sure? At some point soon I'll drive up there and snap some of my own photos.

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Post4:16 PM - Aug 05#455

delmar2debaliviere2downtown wrote:
7:35 AM - Aug 05
Personally not a fan. Looks like something out of Houston or Austin. There are parts of St. Louis I would be more fond of it, but Old North and Hyde Park really have an architectural style that I would prefer keeping the historic fabric. Understand that these lots have been long vacant and we need new housing and infill in these neighborhoods, so I am overall positive and hope it jumpstarts more rehab and tasteful infill on the northside!


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I understand, but it's hard to recreate the historic buildings within a reasonable cost. That's why preservation is so important. With that said, I much prefer this style of infill than the ugly suburban vinyl housing with driveways type of infill we've been getting for years.

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Post4:37 PM - Aug 05#456

Yeah. I just don't think there's the immediate returns on capital to be made on much of the northside that exists with some of the new builds in Benton Park, BPW, Soulard, etc. We need development up here, period -- though I like goat314's distinction that these are so much better than what The Gate district and some other NS neighborhoods have that are basically like copying and pasting post-80s suburbia on to the urban grid.

And really, it's kind of cool to have the mixture of old and new. I still think there's enough STL vernacular that's been rehabbed or occupied to retain our sense of place.

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Post1:30 PM - Aug 17#457

stldotage wrote:
4:13 PM - Aug 05
delmar2debaliviere2downtown wrote:
7:35 AM - Aug 05
Personally not a fan. Looks like something out of Houston or Austin. There are parts of St. Louis I would be more fond of it, but Old North and Hyde Park really have an architectural style that I would prefer keeping the historic fabric. Understand that these lots have been long vacant and we need new housing and infill in these neighborhoods, so I am overall positive and hope it jumpstarts more rehab and tasteful infill on the northside!


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Well...brace yourself. This developer (Kendall Developments) is building a decidedly contemporary "New Town in Old North" on the 1400 block of Monroe. Below is a rendering of 1404 Monroe:
1404Monroe.pngPermits were actually issued in late 2024. I'm not sure if any of the proposed units has actually been built though. Does anyone know for sure? At some point soon I'll drive up there and snap some of my own photos.
Drove by this past weekend -- there is one (mostly) completed unit on the 1400 block of Monroe, as shown below:

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Post3:30 AM - Aug 24#458

^ i really like these. an entire block of them with some variation and trees would make for an attractive street. reminds me of the new homes on Vista but better, IMO.


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Post1:16 AM - Aug 25#459

A little brick goes a long way and can still be done affordably. Photo from the new small infill development one block down the street from the houses pictured above.  
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Post11:22 AM - 11 days ago#460

1210 North Market Street looks to be going to the market soon. The photos in this Facebook post are neat. A previous listing has pictures showing the home in a similar condition. There's some weird rooms with the floors removed, but they're still usable. A few pictures make this appear like it's in Lafayette Square or Benton Park. Proof that if North City is fixed up, it'll rival the City's best neighborhoods. I continue to think Old North will become the model to follow for rebuilding the Northside.
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1HDyNAHgDR/

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Post1:30 AM - 11 days ago#461

Chris Stritzel wrote:
11:22 AM - 11 days ago
1210 North Market Street looks to be going to the market soon. The photos in this Facebook post are neat. A previous listing has pictures showing the home in a similar condition. There's some weird rooms with the floors removed, but they're still usable. A few pictures make this appear like it's in Lafayette Square or Benton Park. Proof that if North City is fixed up, it'll rival the City's best neighborhoods. I continue to think Old North will become the model to follow for rebuilding the Northside.
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1HDyNAHgDR/
Built in 1861

Pretty neat house
Zillow has a price point on it, about 280k. It's not listed for sale on their site yet.  Here's a quote from the Zillow listing:

This home was featured in the St. Louis Post Dispatch's Home and Garden section on May 3, 2018. Search online for "At Home with the Valko's in Old North St. Louis" to see the full article and interior photos. This is a rare opportunity to purchase a beautifully rehabbed home in Old North St. Louis, just blocks from Crown Candy Kitchen.

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Post7:34 PM - 10 days ago#462

Come be my across the street neighbor! https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1210-N-Market-St-Saint-Louis-MO-63106/2935105_zpid/

Listed at $289,900. Seems like a fair if not good price. It's not often a house from 1861 and rehabbed this uniquely hits the market. It will be a good updated check on the market around here.

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