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Post4:16 AM - Today#451

That design is certainly more Gate District esque


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Post4:44 AM - Today#452

stldotage wrote:
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1415-17 Dodier - 2-unit infill project under construction (see the real estate listing here).

Good for new housing. Terrible design.

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Post7:35 AM - Today#453

Personally not a fan. Looks like something out of Houston or Austin. There are parts of St. Louis I would be more fond of it, but Old North and Hyde Park really have an architectural style that I would prefer keeping the historic fabric. Understand that these lots have been long vacant and we need new housing and infill in these neighborhoods, so I am overall positive and hope it jumpstarts more rehab and tasteful infill on the northside!


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Post4:13 PM - Today#454

delmar2debaliviere2downtown wrote:
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Personally not a fan. Looks like something out of Houston or Austin. There are parts of St. Louis I would be more fond of it, but Old North and Hyde Park really have an architectural style that I would prefer keeping the historic fabric. Understand that these lots have been long vacant and we need new housing and infill in these neighborhoods, so I am overall positive and hope it jumpstarts more rehab and tasteful infill on the northside!


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Well...brace yourself. This developer (Kendall Developments) is building a decidedly contemporary "New Town in Old North" on the 1400 block of Monroe. Below is a rendering of 1404 Monroe:
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Permits were actually issued in late 2024. I'm not sure if any of the proposed units has actually been built though. Does anyone know for sure? At some point soon I'll drive up there and snap some of my own photos.

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Post4:16 PM - Today#455

delmar2debaliviere2downtown wrote:
7:35 AM - Today
Personally not a fan. Looks like something out of Houston or Austin. There are parts of St. Louis I would be more fond of it, but Old North and Hyde Park really have an architectural style that I would prefer keeping the historic fabric. Understand that these lots have been long vacant and we need new housing and infill in these neighborhoods, so I am overall positive and hope it jumpstarts more rehab and tasteful infill on the northside!


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I understand, but it's hard to recreate the historic buildings within a reasonable cost. That's why preservation is so important. With that said, I much prefer this style of infill than the ugly suburban vinyl housing with driveways type of infill we've been getting for years.

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Post4:37 PM - Today#456

Yeah. I just don't think there's the immediate returns on capital to be made on much of the northside that exists with some of the new builds in Benton Park, BPW, Soulard, etc. We need development up here, period -- though I like goat314's distinction that these are so much better than what The Gate district and some other NS neighborhoods have that are basically like copying and pasting post-80s suburbia on to the urban grid.

And really, it's kind of cool to have the mixture of old and new. I still think there's enough STL vernacular that's been rehabbed or occupied to retain our sense of place.

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