Well that’s depressing. Both due to the reason of its closure and the fact I’m visiting NYC in August and this was on my list to go see. Sadness.DTGstl314 wrote:Back to the thread topic, this one's a few years old now, but I love Hudson Yards, particularly "The Edge"...
And of course Vessel, the weird 150' installation that they had to close to the public since people kept hurling themselves to their deaths from it...
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If I recall correctly, there was some link or backend change that happened when UrbanSTL was connected to NextSTL that caused me to lurk for a long time before I successfully was able to join. I too remember getting error messages to the effect of "permission denied" shortly after joining back in the day. Though that may have been more around 2008/09 ish?
You can still see it, you just won't be able to climb in it. The Edge observation deck above it in 30 Hudson Yards is still open (costs about $40).LArchitecture wrote: ↑Feb 16, 2022Well that’s depressing. Both due to the reason of its closure and the fact I’m visiting NYC in August and this was on my list to go see. Sadness.DTGstl314 wrote:Back to the thread topic, this one's a few years old now, but I love Hudson Yards, particularly "The Edge"...
And of course Vessel, the weird 150' installation that they had to close to the public since people kept hurling themselves to their deaths from it...
You can also do City Climb if the thought of hanging by climbing ropes off the top of a 1,270' skyscraper doesn't terrify the living sh*t out of you. That, and you have $185 to burn...
I think the scale of the whole thing just really impresses me. NYC arguably already has one of the most famous skylines in the world, and the way the whole project stands out so disruptively like some ultra-sleek futuristic metropolitan core in the middle of it all (I know it's not literally in the middle of Manhattan) is really cool. It's just so massive.

God I hope I live to see the day when STL can even get an 800' tower built.
Hudson Yards? Pretty soulless. Nothing but steel and glass. And I'm not usually one to complain about things like this. There's one pedestrian street and plaza about a block east of the vessel that's kind of nice, currently has a large... lemon art installation that's kind of cool. But as I was sitting there in the installation, I realized there wasn't a single plant anywhere within eye sight. Granted it was December but I couldn't even see a tree without leaves. Hopefully they'll fill that area with greenery in the spring.quincunx wrote: ↑Feb 17, 2022What's it like at the street level?
Overall, the lack of architectural diversity was a huge miss. Something like the development north of London's King's Cross would have been much more exciting, although with the height of hudson yards.
I was there in December and completely agree with aprice, it feels kind of soulless, but seems like it has the potential to get better.
Hey all you skyscraper junkies: New York YIMBY has posted their Second Quarter NY report, and it's chock-full of lots of great pics of all the latest developments.
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^Not as fun as the classic XXX theatres, but . . . well . . . at least it gives the place some seeds to grow again.
Here's a really nice new building going up in Greenwich Village (I'd love to see something like this in STL). Really bothers me, though, how these uneven seems show up on every floor. The wrinkly metal banding around the top looks shoddy too.
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^Seems like it's made to display how crappy modern building techniques are in comparison to their historic analogs. The way the square windows stick out is also rather incongruous.
In spite of which it's honestly not bad and I rather like it and would love to see it here. But still . . . we need bricklaying robots stat!
In spite of which it's honestly not bad and I rather like it and would love to see it here. But still . . . we need bricklaying robots stat!
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See stories like this about the Chrysler Building, the various skyscrapers in Chicago that are less than half full (Hancock, Prudential, amongst others) and it makes you wonder why developers are rapidly building skyscrapers with less architectural significance during high interest rates in downtowns like Austin or Nashville.
I may be wrong but I feel like something will burst in the real estate and economies in those two cities. The economies and numbers do not support the development that has happened in those places.
Maybe I’m just jealous that cities like St. Louis and Cleveland get hardly any investment (especially outside money) in their downtowns despite having actual transit and capacity for density, and all of it goes to these trendy cities that seems out of proportion to what their actual economy is.
See stories like this about the Chrysler Building, the various skyscrapers in Chicago that are less than half full (Hancock, Prudential, amongst others) and it makes you wonder why developers are rapidly building skyscrapers with less architectural significance during high interest rates in downtowns like Austin or Nashville.
I may be wrong but I feel like something will burst in the real estate and economies in those two cities. The economies and numbers do not support the development that has happened in those places.
Maybe I’m just jealous that cities like St. Louis and Cleveland get hardly any investment (especially outside money) in their downtowns despite having actual transit and capacity for density, and all of it goes to these trendy cities that seems out of proportion to what their actual economy is.
Plus it blows my mind that they're taking out a 1400 room hotel when Manhattan is already far too expensive to visit.delmar2debaliviere2downtown wrote: ↑Jul 18, 2024https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/12/real ... ticleShare
See stories like this about the Chrysler Building, the various skyscrapers in Chicago that are less than half full (Hancock, Prudential, amongst others) and it makes you wonder why developers are rapidly building skyscrapers with less architectural significance during high interest rates in downtowns like Austin or Nashville.
I may be wrong but I feel like something will burst in the real estate and economies in those two cities. The economies and numbers do not support the development that has happened in those places.
Maybe I’m just jealous that cities like St. Louis and Cleveland get hardly any investment (especially outside money) in their downtowns despite having actual transit and capacity for density, and all of it goes to these trendy cities that seems out of proportion to what their actual economy is.
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"Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded."dweebe wrote: ↑Jul 18, 2024Plus it blows my mind that they're taking out a 1400 room hotel when Manhattan is already far too expensive to visit.delmar2debaliviere2downtown wrote: ↑Jul 18, 2024https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/12/real ... ticleShare
See stories like this about the Chrysler Building, the various skyscrapers in Chicago that are less than half full (Hancock, Prudential, amongst others) and it makes you wonder why developers are rapidly building skyscrapers with less architectural significance during high interest rates in downtowns like Austin or Nashville.
I may be wrong but I feel like something will burst in the real estate and economies in those two cities. The economies and numbers do not support the development that has happened in those places.
Maybe I’m just jealous that cities like St. Louis and Cleveland get hardly any investment (especially outside money) in their downtowns despite having actual transit and capacity for density, and all of it goes to these trendy cities that seems out of proportion to what their actual economy is.
Great news.
Genuinely one of the greatest policies enacted in New York history.
And likely going away.Auggie wrote: ↑Feb 05, 2025Genuinely one of the greatest policies enacted in New York history.
Trump administration terminates approval of New York City congestion pricing
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna192847
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna192847
The governor's response:Tim wrote: ↑Feb 19, 2025Trump administration terminates approval of New York City congestion pricing
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna192847
“We are a nation of laws, not ruled by a king. The MTA has initiated legal proceedings in the Southern District of New York to preserve this critical program. We’ll see you in court.”
Idk about you, but I feel very elite riding the bus and train.
Also a great way to cause a recession would be to break the NYC subway.
Also a great way to cause a recession would be to break the NYC subway.






