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PostMay 03, 2006#101

Highway 40 roadwork fears could haunt downtown

By Eric Heisler

ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH

05/02/2006



Fear about Highway 40 (Interstate 64) construction could harm downtown more than the roadwork itself, a Boston civic leader told St. Louis business officials Tuesday.



When Boston was about to launch one of the largest road projects in U.S. history, a business group predicted a devastating blow to downtown, said Rick Dimino, president of Boston's Artery Business Committee.



The forecast was an attempt to kill or influence the project, Dimino said. But shoppers took note and abandoned a group of stores in Boston's North End long before the construction began.



In Boston, there were lots of fears leading up to what's become known as the "Big Dig" Project, Dimino said. But "during the peak construction years, we had the lowest office-vacancy rate and the lowest unemployment rate in the city's history," he said.



Dimino was one of two Boston-area presenters who spoke Tuesday at an event sponsored by the Downtown St. Louis Partnership.



The other was a consultant hired by the partnership to assess the project's impact on traffic, business and the economy. Cambridge Systematics Inc. will release its $160,000 report later this spring.



The Missouri Department of Transportation plans to spend $535 million to rebuild Highway 40 from west of Spoede Road in Frontenac to Sarah Street in St. Louis.



The project shares some similarities with Boston's Central Artery/Tunnel Project, which began in 1987. A major highway leading to the central business district was rebuilt.



In Boston, fears were raised by business owners who stood to lose and by real-estate interests who hoped to capitalize on downtown's misfortune, Dimino said.



Dimino advised St. Louis leaders to combat fears by releasing as much information as possible about the impact of the project on business.



Marc Cutler, senior vice president for Cambridge Systematics, said his firm is studying the impact of keeping various portions of Highway 40 open. The report will set standards for the project and make recommendations, he said.



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PostMay 03, 2006#102

Another "wonderful" Post Dispatch article AKA scare tactic.



When METRO opens the new green line the headlines will read:

Broke Metro opens line with no money.



Always a negative .... unless it has to do with the county.

PostMay 03, 2006#103

OH MY - how ironic...

look at the article on the front page of the Post Dispatch today:



Metro misses another deadline



http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/s ... enDocument





SO THE POST GOT A STAB IN AT THE NEW I-64 AND HOW IT COULD "HARM" DOWNTOWN



AND IN ADDITION IN THE SAME DAY THEY HAVE A STAB AT METRO.



Just great! :shock:

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PostMay 03, 2006#104

I think that this is purely the editor's fault (or whomever creates the headlines). The article itself talks of how the perception is worse than reality and lets us know 1) we should learn from boston's experience. 2)we can combat the fear and 3) there are things being done to give the public more information in the near future.



The problem is that the headline casts a negative pall even before you read the article. Therefore you already have the negative perception of the projec adversly affecting downtown even though that isn't what its about at all. This isn't the worst piece of reporting ever-kinda bland, but not IMO slanted-but the arse who wrote that headline went for the classic atetnion grabber-the scare tactic. Total sensationalized piece of tripe, the headline. The editor read it and had to make a call-what will grab attention:



"East Coast expers say 40 project impact over-inflated."



"40 project fears may haunt Downtown."



Obviously they went for the drama. They took the one statement about the "fear" being worse than the acual reality and he ran with it, even though the article was supposed to illustrate that the 40 project is not the bane of downtown, but rather something that can be managed with success if done correctly.



God I hate Headline Makers.

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PostMay 03, 2006#105

I agree about the headline, it could've just as easily read "Impact on downtown may be less than feared" or something. Especially considering this quote from the article:


In Boston, there were lots of fears leading up to what's become known as the "Big Dig" Project, Dimino said. But "during the peak construction years, we had the lowest office-vacancy rate and the lowest unemployment rate in the city's history," he said.


It takes talent to get a negative headline out of that.

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PostMay 03, 2006#106

I'm really getting sick of the post disgrace. It's getting harder and harder to read. I feel for the reporters, who are actually doing a good job of reporting the news. But the headline is what gives you a leadin for what the article is about. If the headline is negative, you're going to read the article with a negative viewpoint. It's like watching Fox News. The news is not presented to you with filters, instead of presenting facts, and letting the public decide how to interpret those facts.



The Headline should have been: "Boston Leaders Brought In To Discuss 64-40 Economic Impact On City"



Or something similar. That's what happened.



The other article is worse. The headline makers at the Post are sensationalizing regular reports. It's really gross.

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PostMay 04, 2006#107

we need another major paper again. Since a lot of the topics that we get here start with articles from there - if we had a second paper - it would give us more 'reliable' sources. Better yet - lets get another major paper BASED IN THE CITY, not some damn Iowa Cornfield.

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PostMay 04, 2006#108

^Here, here!!! Sometimes I feel I need to apologize to my garbage for wrapping it up in it.

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PostMay 04, 2006#109

The Arch City Chronicle is a City-based paper that has dramatically grown in the last couple years. However, it still has a ways to go, if it is to become a major paper.



Other smaller papers like West End Word, Vital Voice, American and Argus are a good read, but specialize in targeted audiences. Of course, the same could be partly said about the ACC, in that it started off as a paper only read by politicos and wonks. But its recent additions are catching the eyes of more City residents, especially in Downtown and the near-southside. And sadly, the RFT used to do some in-depth local stories, but now, or pretty much post-Ray Hartmann, it's just like any other New Times paper.

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PostMay 04, 2006#110

I'm a big fan of the Arch City Chronicle. Good columnists; nice, positive city oriented stories. They also are good about allowing a couple different views go at it, especially a few weeks/months back when they did the feature on St. louis Center. It is kind of tough to find, but I've seen it both at Gold's downtown and at Wash Ave Post.

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PostJun 07, 2006#111

Update from the P-D:


Missouri lacks $17 million needed for Highway 40 project

By Shane Graber

? 2006 ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH

06/07/2006



The Missouri transportation department is at least $17 million short of having the money to build the improved Highway 40 that it has been promising St. Louisans for the past year, officials acknowledged to the Post-Dispatch this week.

It plans to rebuild 12 miles of Highway 40 from west of Spoede Road in Frontenac to Sarah Street in St. Louis. Work is supposed to include rebuilding the Interstate 170 and Highway 40 interchange, as well as adding a lane in each direction between Spoede and I-70. The rebuilding project as pitched by the Missouri Department of Transportation would cost $552 million, according to federal documents.



But the department's project budget is a firm $535 million.



To complete the project, the state will have to cut back on some of the promised amenities, which could include anything from a scaled back Interstate 170 interchange to fewer additional lanes and replaced bridges.



MoDot said it isn't sure what parts of the project will be left out.



The department will break ground by spring 2007. MoDOT has promised it will be finished by October 2010.

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PostJun 07, 2006#112

Wonder what will be cut first. My bet is any asthetic peices, such as decroative panles.

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PostJun 07, 2006#113

KC got the good lookin 71

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PostJun 07, 2006#114

I bet the Bellvue ramps get dropped, that would save MoDOT the headache from the lawsuit Richmond Hts filed against it.

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PostJun 07, 2006#115

^ True. I guess modot will just have to think long and hard about what ramps and lane addtions are most important. I wonder if the parts in the city, east of Forest Park, would be cut since the lanes are already wide.

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PostJun 07, 2006#116

I hope they still try to construct the single-point interchanges that they had planned. They look nice on the website:



http://www.thenewi64.org/interactivemap ... ivemap.htm

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PostJun 08, 2006#117

I'd be happy if they dropped the plans for extra lanes.

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PostJun 08, 2006#118

I figure while they got the whole region in a debocle - they should add the lanes anyway. One extra lane will help a bit at rush hour and it wont add much time/money to the project considerign what is being done already. The thing is they probably wont add it now and in 30 years will decide "we should have added another lane" and do it all over again - since the bridges wont be big enought to handle the extra lane etc. They should do it now and get it over with. Make it so the next major redesign is 70 years from now.....

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PostJun 08, 2006#119

If anything, I could see them simply address what they feel is most importatant. So the intersection with Brentwood, 40, 170, and Hanley will be done. So too probably the intersection with Lindbergh and maybe Hampton and Kingshighway. In some ways this might be the best outcome.

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PostJun 08, 2006#120

More:


Highway 40 plan likely will be scaled back

By Shane Graber

ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH

06/07/2006



Missouri officials lack the money to build the Highway 40 project they showcased for the past year, and a scaled-down version might mean fewer improvements - from the upgrades planned for the Interstate 170 interchange to proposals adding more lanes and replacing bridges.



The Missouri Department of Transportation is at least $17 million short, a spokeswoman acknowledged to the Post-Dispatch this week. The agency says it doesn't know which details will be left out.



The department is supposed to rebuild 12 miles of Highway 40 from west of Spoede Road in Frontenac to Sarah Street in St. Louis. MoDOT promises that the rebuilt highway, which is the most vital east-west route in the region, will be safer and more efficient for motorists. The project will be the state's grandest highway construction project to date.



The top official for the bistate's planning organization that approved MoDOT's plan, though, says the agency won't be building the project it promised in the first place.



The new Highway 40 that MoDOT is pitching would cost at least $552 million, according to federal documents. And that doesn't include inflation. But MoDOT has vowed not to exceed a $535 million budget.



"And we are going to get the most project we can get for that," MoDOT spokeswoman Linda Wilson said.



For now, though, Wilson concedes that the department doesn't know exactly what the $535 million will buy.



Nothing prohibits MoDOT from spending more money and extending the construction schedule if it wants. But two construction teams are vying for the project, and the winner will be based largely on the one that can get the most bang for the buck.



One area that perhaps needs the most critical work is the Highway 40 and Interstate 170 interchange, where the worst backups occur.



Improvements at that interchange still will be made to reduce congestion, but Wilson didn't know to what extent.



"I think it's fair to say it's not necessarily going to look like what's in the environmental document," she said.



That document, an Environmental Impact Statement, is the federally required plan MoDOT is showing residents and businesses.



"I think it's important to understand that an (Environmental Impact Statement) represents the ultimate project you could possibly build," Wilson said. "We have to show people the most impact a project could have on people."



East-West Gateway Council of Governments, the region's planning organization, approved the $535 million budget last July. Any time federal money is spent in a multijurisdictional metropolitan area, the region's planning organization has to approve it.



East-West Gateway executive director Les Sterman said MoDOT promised it could build Highway 40 for $535 million because it was using a cheaper and faster design-build approach, which allows one company to draw the plans and build it.



"In essence, they came to us and said, 'Suppose we could build the project for less money and in less time,'" Sterman said in an e-mail interview. "That was obviously an attractive deal, one that we couldn't refuse.



"It turns out, though, that they are not likely going to build the project that we thought, but something less than that."



Sterman speculated that the downsized project could affect several key components, such as interchanges at Lindbergh Boulevard, I-170, Hampton Avenue and Kingshighway.



A St. Louis County task force report released last month said MoDOT might be able to build the highway under budget if the department demolishes and rebuilds one side at a time while motorists have access to the other side. Doing so would speed up the work, among other things.



But Garry Earls, St. Louis County's director of public works, said he's not clear on MoDOT's funding and wonders if the agency is prepared to spend more money. Because the project is design-build, it doesn't go to the lowest bidder, and the entire scope of it is negotiable, Earls said.



If MoDOT doesn't have enough money and won't spend more, Earls said he could only speculate on what MoDOT might have to leave out.



"MoDOT will not talk to me about that subject," Earls said. "That's a very sensitive subject to them."



MoDOT expects to select a project team and release to the public the outline of the plans by December. The department plans to break ground by next spring. MoDOT has promised the work will be finished by October 2010.



MoDOT can't release many of the details of the project yet because of the competitive element involved in the teams' bidding process, Wilson said.



Whichever plan MoDOT decides on, motorists will be pleased, Wilson said.



"As a motorist, it's going to be in better shape, it's going to flow better and it's going to be safer."

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PostJun 08, 2006#121

Shelve the entire thing?



$550 million??? Amidst all the studies, has a cost/benefit analysis been done?

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PostJun 08, 2006#122

I wonder if they could stay under the cost they promised if they simply scrapped the fourth lane. The safer/more efficient interchange designs are the most important parts of this project. They should be designed to accommodate another lane, decreasing the amount of work that will be done to add it when necessary.

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PostJun 08, 2006#123

We all know the nature of these huge infrastructure projects, and it is bound to end up over-budget anyway. Which makes me wonder what other compromises will ultimately be made as the project moves forward. We have definitely not seen the last of the "cut corners" that's for sure.

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PostJun 09, 2006#124

I don't understand how they can't built what they want with $535 million. :?



But if they must scale back, loose the extra lane that they planned on building.



The interchanges and bridge repairs, on the other hand, seem very necessary. On "The New I-64" website, it shows current pictures of the bridges with cracks and crumbling concrete and infrastructure.

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PostJun 09, 2006#125

^And scrap the Bellevue ramps. Rebuild the bridge there, but don't replace the ramps, especially when Big Bend will become a full interchange. Of course, scrapping the Bellevue ramps is just a minor start to cost-cutting, but it should definitely be one of the first things cut.

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