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^ Construction News Record St. Louis posted article earlier in the week. Initial timeline is too have site cleared and ready for construction by September 2017
as reported.

http://stlouiscnr.com/departments/news/ ... n-project/

I'm thinking this was the final decision great news for the city!

^

McKee announces housing partnership in the area.... 500 units in first phase:

http://news.stlpublicradio.org/post/mck ... ign=buffer

"We have the development rights for 3,000 housing units over the life of Northside Redevelopment project," McKee said. "We would very much like Telesis and Clayco Realty Group to stay involved with us for all 3,000, but the partnership is for Phase I."

I'll get excited when I see actual walls going up.

framer wrote:I'll get excited when I see actual walls going up.

Yea with McKee I won't believe a single word he says until construction actually starts

^If this is truly moving forward he should be shoring up the existing housing stock he has there now.

I'll believe it when I see it.

^ looks like they plan for for a combo of rehab and infill.

I agree with the comments that McKee has earned skepticism, but this time around he now has the financial backing of the AFL-CIO Housing Investment Trust and other partners like Telesis so it looks like something will be happening. Telesis has done some interesting work on mixed-income projects with a focud on the D.C.-Baltimore area. You can take a look here:
http://www.telesiscorp.com/

It would be nice to see how the rehab and infill will work together. Hopefully there will be architectural consistency. Speaking of that, not sure if there are historic district designations for the area that could impact the design.

And is there any talks planned yet on what to do with the area the NSA is leaving yet? I remember some ideas of development in that area and the use of the historic buildings on the site.

There is one for Hyde park

https://www.stlouis-mo.gov/government/d ... 2014-2.pdf

BTW here's the thread for Northside

https://urbanstl.com/forum/viewtopic.ph ... &start=500

A glance at the Telesis site makes me more optimistic for good urban form IF the project moves forward.

Question: I am pretty sure guns are not allowed within the NGA perimeter. If the NGA built a second manned perimeter fence out into the surrounding community, with the resident's permission, similar to perimeters at bases that include base housing, could that be a way to reduce property and violent crime in the area surrounding the NGA.

It could be justified as a security measure. I would only think they should consider this if they could get near unanimous approval from the residents that would be within the perimeter. Residents would always enter and exit through a single car entrance that has a 24-hour manned base guard station. It would be like a gated community on steroids. The advantage for residents would be a huge reduction in crime. I would think houses inside this perimeter would go up in value as a result. Maybe a lot of people who work at NGA would want to buy a house inside this perimeter and walk to work.

From what I've read online, at most bases with base housing, guns are not permitted in barracks style housing -- they must stay in a locked common armory-like area. But for individual houses, the residents can have individual guns, but they must all be registered and tracked by officials at the base.

^ That would likely have some serious constitutional issues. And even if it was somehow allowed the Missouri Legislature would do everything they could to block it.

imperialmog wrote:^ That would likely have some serious constitutional issues. And even if it was somehow allowed the Missouri Legislature would do everything they could to block it.

The Missouri legislature cannot force NGA to allow individuals to bring guns unregulated onto NGA property currently. (Or private property for that matter such as Boeing. Can citizens band together and form a private association that bans guns? Similar to a gated community?)



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Look no further than one of St. Louis's most famous SCOTUS cases - Shelley v. Kraemer - for a primer on how the Supreme Court would view a private covenant or contract that restricts an individual constitutional right.

wabash wrote:Look no further than one of St. Louis's most famous SCOTUS cases - Shelley v. Kraemer - for a primer on how the Supreme Court would view a private covenant or contract that restricts an individual constitutional right.

The NGIA site is only a few blocks away from the house in question in that case.

Nothing new, but here's a blurb about the possible Buster Brown Building relocation. Says it would be the 3rd biggest building ever moved, anywhere:

http://www.constructforstl.org/possible ... -nga-site/

NGA director signals closer ties with community at new north side headquarters

When the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency opens its new facility on the city’s North Side early next decade, it doesn’t want to be an obscure federal agency tucked away in an industrial corridor anymore.

Instead, NGA Director Robert Cardillo on Thursday signaled a profound shift in how he envisions its new western headquarters — and the agency as a whole — interacting with the community around it.

The new 100-acre campus for the mapping agency that helped plan the raid that killed Osama bin Laden could include green space, a community education center and even shared offices for another government agency or private companies working with the NGA.

“I have no interest in creating a moat and big walls,” Cardillo said in an interview with the Post-Dispatch at the spy agency’s existing 23-acre campus on Second Street near the Anheuser-Busch Brewery.

http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/ ... ign=LEEDCC

Dogtown Dog wrote:NGA director signals closer ties with community at new north side headquarters

When the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency opens its new facility on the city’s North Side early next decade, it doesn’t want to be an obscure federal agency tucked away in an industrial corridor anymore.

Instead, NGA Director Robert Cardillo on Thursday signaled a profound shift in how he envisions its new western headquarters — and the agency as a whole — interacting with the community around it.

The new 100-acre campus for the mapping agency that helped plan the raid that killed Osama bin Laden could include green space, a community education center and even shared offices for another government agency or private companies working with the NGA.

“I have no interest in creating a moat and big walls,” Cardillo said in an interview with the Post-Dispatch at the spy agency’s existing 23-acre campus on Second Street near the Anheuser-Busch Brewery.

http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/ ... ign=LEEDCC

Very good to hear. Hope it really does start revitalizing the area around it and this is certainly a start