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PostMar 11, 2016#501

^ and a stop along Jefferson at or near Cass of course would service Pruitt-Igoe site redevelopment. Looks like northern part of Downtown West/southern part of Carr Square would also be serviced by the route they have outlined.

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PostMar 11, 2016#502

dbInSouthCity wrote:Spoke to someone that works at NGA, said most employees prefer SAB, not because it's better but because they don't want any part of north city. Some say they have no idea why either side is pushing transit...said most NGA workers make $125-200k and have never taken transit or plan to. He said most just want to get in, do their work and get out
Good thing they don't have much say in the matter.

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PostMar 12, 2016#503

dbInSouthCity wrote:Spoke to someone that works at NGA, said most employees prefer SAB, not because it's better but because they don't want any part of north city. Some say they have no idea why either side is pushing transit...said most NGA workers make $125-200k and have never taken transit or plan to. He said most just want to get in, do their work and get out
I couldn't be less surprised

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PostMar 12, 2016#504

The two people I know who work there live in Chesterfield and Glendale and are not interested in the long commute to SAFB

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PostMar 12, 2016#505

MO House approved $10m for 64 & Jefferson ramps (for NGA)

This comes out of general revenue and not MoDOT revenue
(Same for everything else on the list)

PostMar 12, 2016#506

^modot would be building that project since its on the state system

Little known fact: MoDOT runs Amtrak in Missouri

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PostMar 12, 2016#507

^ Do you know where the ramps would be? I believe for example there is not direct exit to Jeff off 64WB. Do you think this would directly advance 22nd Street interchange project?

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PostMar 13, 2016#508

^ Good question, if done right it should help advance the new 22nd street interchange and return some street grid to West Downtown

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PostMar 13, 2016#509

The new Metrolink alignment would actually be great for Downtown West.

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PostMar 13, 2016#510

The light at Market and 21st is so annoyingly long. Today I got greens at Page and MLK going N on Ksway from the red at Waterman for the first time in years. Lights in the city are such a perverted mystery. The building at Euclid and Delmar is under heavy rehab now just for you info. SPI IL representin in the LOU.

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PostMar 13, 2016#511

Good thing they don't have much say in the matter.


They work for the government. Should they?

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PostMar 22, 2016#512

The guy who owns the cool Buster Brown building wants to move it across Cass and make it a hotel if NGA comes.

http://news.stlpublicradio.org/post/wil ... oe-factory

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PostMar 23, 2016#513

We are about 8 days and 23 hours from THE DECISION- final predication's?

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PostMar 23, 2016#514

I'm going to predict they push back the decision again. :P

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PostMar 23, 2016#515

dbInSouthCity wrote:We are about 8 days and 23 hours from THE DECISION- final predication's?
Same as I've been cheerfully saying all along. Southern Illinois gets what it they've been deprived by mean ol' St. Louis and the NGA goes to Scott. Mayor Slay will spin the loss as a good thing and continue with his "all is well" chants.

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PostMar 23, 2016#516

After my disastrous NCAA picks, I am making no more predictions during the month of March.

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PostMar 24, 2016#517

dweebe wrote:
dbInSouthCity wrote:We are about 8 days and 23 hours from THE DECISION- final predication's?
Same as I've been cheerfully saying all along. Southern Illinois gets what it they've been deprived by mean ol' St. Louis and the NGA goes to Scott. Mayor Slay will spin the loss as a good thing and continue with his "all is well" chants.
I don't think he'll spin it as a good thing. I think it'll sound like the NFL/Rams situation - "We put our best foot forward, but ultimately, they wanted to move to IL and there was nothing we could do about it." I think the "spin" statement (if thats what it's called) will be something like "We'll continue our conversations with NGA on what the best use of their current site once they vacate. Will be a tremendous opportunity."

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PostMar 24, 2016#518

St. Clair Co population down 2.2% 2010-2015. Another reason to be desperate for NGA.

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PostMar 24, 2016#519

Scott

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PostMar 24, 2016#520

Im going to predict that Scott will win however i'll be even happier if they pick North St.Louis either way its good paying jobs staying in our region and aren't going to places such as Overland Park Kansas Denver CO let alone Texas..

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PostMar 27, 2016#521

Just read yet another article in the SPD about The Decision. Didn't know the Pentagon had recommended relocation to Scott back in 2005 or 06. Don't know how much weight this recommendation holds but i feel pessimistic. The only glimmer of hope i hold out is that why go through this entire process if the Scott location "makes so much sense" or is superior?

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PostMar 27, 2016#522

^ I think the earlier recommendation does have some weight; however on a more positive note for STL's bid is the fact that NGA's director has made comments about the need for more openness, collaboration, etc. and probably is more open to the city site than his predecessor, who made the call to move out to the more Scott AFB-type equivalent for the DC HQ. Obama's executive action calling for agencies to give more weight to urban areas may have some impact as well, but I don't think that it will come into play too much on NGA... it'll do what it thinks is in its best interests.

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PostMar 27, 2016#523

Although I am 100% for keeping the NGA in St. Louis City or Missouri, if the NGA moves to SAFB, at least the 3,100 jobs stay in the region. It would be a big mistake by the decision-makers, but not a total loss.

The Metro East, in my honest opinion, is a drag on the metropolitan area's overall economy and growth.

My hope is that if the NGA moves to SAFB, the Metro East uses the move as a tool to lure more jobs and growth to the area.

St. Louis City will recover the $2-million hit with smart development, smart development partners, smart budget cuts and smart job luring incentives.

The biggest threat is Rex Sinquefield and his efforts to demolish the earnings tax altogether.

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PostMar 28, 2016#524

arch city wrote:The Metro East, in my honest opinion, is a drag on the metropolitan area's overall economy and growth. .
In all fairness the rest of the region hasn't been kind to the Metro East. They are typically left out of most development and company relocations.

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PostMar 28, 2016#525

The State of Illinois is less kind to the Metro East than the Missouri side of the Metro is. To rephrase that, being in Illinois is a huge disadvantage for the Metro East. And unfortunately, the Metro East's blue-blood employers are closing up shop (Olin, Granite City Steel, etc.) whereas other Illinois metros still have an anchor to rely on (Caterpillar for Peoria/Decatur, John Deere for Quad Cities, State Farm for Bloomington, and then of course U of I for Champaign and state capital for Springfield). Hence why I'm an advocate for the move to Scott - it's the Metro East's strongest card right now.

I'm split on it. If they decide to stay in the city then part of me will be happy because I am a strong advocate for the city, but big picture wise I just think the move to Scott is best for the region. Part of that is because it's best for the Metro East, because I agree with Arch City that it really doesn't have a whole lot going for it now.

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