Makes sense as I assume getting to a development agreement between the Foundation/new owners and Cordish will take some time. But to JaneJacobsGhost question, would the Foundation have means and finances to move forward with demo is the question. In same breath, ideally the development agreement is in place before any demo starts.dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Jul 09, 2025This is most likely a 2027 project start
unfortunately, this is not possible, the building is in such bad shape that even sending people to put lights in is dangerous (see the PGAV report thats attached to the abatement bill)addxb2 wrote: ↑Jul 09, 2025If it is actually going to take years, they should
(1) clean it (2) work with light artist to get it looking funky while we wait.
Like addxb2, (saw your posts on airliners.net) the petty side of me would love for us to land a 3x BA flight just to listen to them whine some more.PlatinumBlues wrote: ↑Jul 10, 2025The girls & boys over at KC rag are fussing over why do cordish’s buildings look better than theirs. I mean we only have one building built so far compared to almost 4 or 5 of them built there. Even one goes further to talk down about one cardinal way & say theirs looks better. I happen to like one cardinal way it has a different look on the west facing side. I just find it to be childish yet humorous on them whining about Cordish even being involved in some sort of redevelopment here in St.Louis. They want St.Louis to fail so badly. They are likely praying that the millennium redevelopment falls through that’ll make them feel so much better. If this gets built as is we’d be so darn fortunate. We deserve this so much.
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What are the chances they make it shorter? I haven't seen that discussed anywhere, but I dunno how conceptual the renderings are.pdm_ad wrote: ↑Jul 10, 2025^ I, for one, really hope they don't chop this down in height. We need a few taller sexy towers like this to add some much needed density and stretch to our DT skyline. We've had plenty of 20-30 floor box towers go up in Clayton, I love this design and height as is.
Make it happen, Cordish!!!
I responded to them since I'm active over there. They're jealous by a big building being proposed by Cordish since some are fed up by the "monotonous Cordish wall" that's been established at P&L. They were hoping for 4 Light to break from the trend, but it doesn't.PlatinumBlues wrote: ↑Jul 10, 2025The girls & boys over at KC rag are fussing over why do cordish’s buildings look better than theirs. I mean we only have one building built so far compared to almost 4 or 5 of them built there. Even one goes further to talk down about one cardinal way & say theirs looks better. I happen to like one cardinal way it has a different look on the west facing side. I just find it to be childish yet humorous on them whining about Cordish even being involved in some sort of redevelopment here in St.Louis. They want St.Louis to fail so badly. They are likely praying that the millennium redevelopment falls through that’ll make them feel so much better. If this gets built as is we’d be so darn fortunate. We deserve this so much.
There is absolutely no excuse for ballpark village to not be built out by now.Chris Stritzel wrote: ↑Jul 11, 2025I responded to them since I'm active over there. They're jealous by a big building being proposed by Cordish since some are fed up by the "monotonous Cordish wall" that's been established at P&L. They were hoping for 4 Light to break from the trend, but it doesn't.PlatinumBlues wrote: ↑Jul 10, 2025The girls & boys over at KC rag are fussing over why do cordish’s buildings look better than theirs. I mean we only have one building built so far compared to almost 4 or 5 of them built there. Even one goes further to talk down about one cardinal way & say theirs looks better. I happen to like one cardinal way it has a different look on the west facing side. I just find it to be childish yet humorous on them whining about Cordish even being involved in some sort of redevelopment here in St.Louis. They want St.Louis to fail so badly. They are likely praying that the millennium redevelopment falls through that’ll make them feel so much better. If this gets built as is we’d be so darn fortunate. We deserve this so much.
I figure the Millennium Hotel project will get done in due time. As addxb2 mentioned, Gateway Arch Park Foundation is pushing this ahead and has support in City Hall. Downtown boosters are also supportive. Cordish themselves are incentivized to do it since they're held back on Ballpark Village a bit and have taken a fair amount of blame for the slow progress made there over the course of almost 20 years. When you have multiple groups rooting for you, and the desire to rid the skyline of an eyesore (at this point), you're going to get it done.
