There are multiple serious proposals and none are to make it a green space.
The last thing downtown St. Louis needs is more green space that generates almost no pedestrian traffic and zero tax revenue.dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Jan 22, 2025There are multiple serious proposals and none are to make it a green space.
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If they can save the building that be awesome if not I hope they replace it with something similar in height
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I think they rehab the two cylinder buildings and tear down the one story connecting structure to build another tower
The setback of the property and fronting drive through in a downtown environment where no other property is really like that makes it a no brainer to bring a new building to the front of Broadway to fill out the remaining parcel and then the millenium buildings compliment it. I think that would be pretty sweet and could make this one complex have 500 units.
The setback of the property and fronting drive through in a downtown environment where no other property is really like that makes it a no brainer to bring a new building to the front of Broadway to fill out the remaining parcel and then the millenium buildings compliment it. I think that would be pretty sweet and could make this one complex have 500 units.
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I always thought that they could reconfigure this site akin to the Vdara/aria layout in Vegas. Towers on either side of a circle drive that accesses the garage, and still put a retail component along 4th. Obviously site specific massing and configuration necessary but liked how these towers looked and worked with eachother. The circle drive I mentioned can seen in lower right, the front of the Aria.
And please don't fault me for Vegas' car friendliness, this is specific to style and what might work on the site.
And please don't fault me for Vegas' car friendliness, this is specific to style and what might work on the site.
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delmar2debaliviere2downtown wrote: ↑Jan 23, 2025I think they rehab the two cylinder buildings and tear down the one story connecting structure to build another tower
The setback of the property and fronting drive through in a downtown environment where no other property is really like that makes it a no brainer to bring a new building to the front of Broadway to fill out the remaining parcel and then the millenium buildings compliment it. I think that would be pretty sweet and could make this one complex have 500 units.
urban_dilettante wrote:my ideal would be: preserve the tower and egg, demo the 1-story section linking them and build a new tower there, and build a 6-story street wall on 4th stretching from the egg to Polsinelli with commercial on the bottom and apartments/condos above. unfortunately the Memorial side sucks so i guess put the inevitable parking podium/garage entrance on that side.
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^ k. thanks for the correction. hopefully everyone can understand my comment now.
Are they awesome? What is the general character of the proposals (demo, towers, rehab, etc)?dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Jan 22, 2025There are multiple serious proposals and none are to make it a green space.
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Just had lunch with my commercial real estate buddy and he said that the only project idea for Millennium he knows about has rock-solid, air-tight financing.
My opinion: go with that one!
My opinion: go with that one!
Any clues as to what was proposed?whitherSTL wrote: ↑Jan 28, 2025Just had lunch with my commercial real estate buddy and he said that the only project idea for Millennium he knows about has rock-solid, air-tight financing.
My opinion: go with that one!
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hopefully not a data center
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Clearly some of you never read the RFP if you think a data center or green space wouldn’t get laughed out of the room.
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I was just joking...dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑Jan 28, 2025Clearly some of you never read the RFP if you think a data center or green space wouldn’t get laughed out of the room.
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I would love it if some big firm from the East Coast (Related) or Chicago (Sterling Bay) came in, demolished the complex, and revealed something designed by a "starchitect" firm. Not sure if any of that makes economic sense, but would be cool.
I hope that whatever is selected gives incentive to demolish the Busch East garage in the future. Especially if the next phase of Ballpark Village leaves only one parking lot (I expect there to be Two Cardinal Way and a second office tower in this next phase with the final lot left up for a 3 Cardinal Way).
I hope that whatever is selected gives incentive to demolish the Busch East garage in the future. Especially if the next phase of Ballpark Village leaves only one parking lot (I expect there to be Two Cardinal Way and a second office tower in this next phase with the final lot left up for a 3 Cardinal Way).
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I’m guessing this means we’ll see something soon.
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