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PostApr 29, 2016#371

KC has a lot going for it. The Plaza was always awesome, their downtown certainly is bouncing back with new towers, redevelopment, etc. Google Fiber is awesome, and i'm jealous of that. BUT.. when it comes down to it, St. Louis is the BIGGER city. More history, more incredible neighborhoods, more amazing architecture, more business overall (9 fortune 500 in STL to 1 in KC..), a million more people. KC, please get over your little sister syndrome. It's like people in Springfield MO saying we're growing faster than STL! Well, STL can say we're growing faster than Chicago! which is technically true, but only because the cities are already both much larger. Again, KC is great, and certainly has grown a lot in the last ten years, but even people FROM KC that move here know that STL is the BIG CITY and honestly the better city, has far more going on and far more different neighborhoods.

Denver is certainly a boom town and has been for 20-30 years. The geographic location next to the mountains could not be cooler. Colorado as a state is amazing, and I even think parts of MO are great, but obviously not as cool. The city itself is certainly clean and has a vibrant downtown, but overall, St. Louis is a FAR more beautiful city. better housing stock, historic neighborhoods, more parks, etc. The "nice" areas of Denver look like Dogtown. There is ZERO CWE, Lafayette Square, Soulard, Clayton, U City, old north. There is a complete lack of "green" in Denver. Also, please tell me what area in Denver looks as architecturally cool as the CWE whether it's the highrises on Lindell, to the amazing houses on Portland Place to Maryland/Euclid. LoDo? It doesn't exist.

Overall, I think bashing Detroit, St. Louis, Cleveland, Newark, New Orleans, Baltimore is a veiled way at being racist in 2016 without being overtly racist; by bashing the cities with larger, poor black populations. Obviously much needs to be done to fix this inequality problems, but please don't bash these cities and then run to the WHITEST cities in America: austin, nashville, denver, etc and then belittle cities with actual diversity and history.

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PostMay 01, 2016#372

Geography is making America’s uneven economic recovery worse
Gateway to the heartland.
http://qz.com/672589/geography-is-makin ... ery-worse/

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PostMay 01, 2016#373

jcity wrote:KC has a lot going for it. The Plaza was always awesome, their downtown certainly is bouncing back with new towers, redevelopment, etc. Google Fiber is awesome, and i'm jealous of that. BUT.. when it comes down to it, St. Louis is the BIGGER city. More history, more incredible neighborhoods, more amazing architecture, more business overall (9 fortune 500 in STL to 1 in KC..), a million more people. KC, please get over your little sister syndrome. It's like people in Springfield MO saying we're growing faster than STL! Well, STL can say we're growing faster than Chicago! which is technically true, but only because the cities are already both much larger. Again, KC is great, and certainly has grown a lot in the last ten years, but even people FROM KC that move here know that STL is the BIG CITY and honestly the better city, has far more going on and far more different neighborhoods.

Denver is certainly a boom town and has been for 20-30 years. The geographic location next to the mountains could not be cooler. Colorado as a state is amazing, and I even think parts of MO are great, but obviously not as cool. The city itself is certainly clean and has a vibrant downtown, but overall, St. Louis is a FAR more beautiful city. better housing stock, historic neighborhoods, more parks, etc. The "nice" areas of Denver look like Dogtown. There is ZERO CWE, Lafayette Square, Soulard, Clayton, U City, old north. There is a complete lack of "green" in Denver. Also, please tell me what area in Denver looks as architecturally cool as the CWE whether it's the highrises on Lindell, to the amazing houses on Portland Place to Maryland/Euclid. LoDo? It doesn't exist.

Overall, I think bashing Detroit, St. Louis, Cleveland, Newark, New Orleans, Baltimore is a veiled way at being racist in 2016 without being overtly racist; by bashing the cities with larger, poor black populations. Obviously much needs to be done to fix this inequality problems, but please don't bash these cities and then run to the WHITEST cities in America: austin, nashville, denver, etc and then belittle cities with actual diversity and history.
Yes to every single point you made.

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PostMay 01, 2016#374

jcity wrote:The "nice" areas of Denver look like Dogtown.
I agree with everything you said as well, but Denver actually does have a couple of historic neighborhoods that are architecturally more impressive than Dogtown. Cheeseman Park is probably the closest thing they have to the CWE, and while very attractive it doesn't match the CWE's historic density. Overall, St. Louis just has many more beautiful historic hoods. And park-wise, yeah, St. Louis wins by a landslide. One other point: based on my wanderings I really haven't found Denver to be any cleaner than St. Louis trash-wise. Plenty of litter from what I can see.

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PostMay 04, 2016#375

I was in the Denver area visiting relatives over a 4 day weekend trip, and hit the towns of Lafayette, Louisville, Boulder, Evergreen, and Idaho Falls, as well as Denver. It snowed/drizzled continuously for the first 3 days completely hiding the mountains. But the 4th day was sunny and we did the the beautiful loop from Evergreen to Mt. Evans to Idaho Falls, although the road to the top of Mt Evans was still closed. Also took-in lookout Mountain for great views both West toward the divide, and East toward Golden and downtown Denver.

I don't think i realized that Denver is at least a month behind St. Louis in terms of transition to Spring -- more like Chicago. Leaves were just staring to come out in Denver. Up in Evergreen it is even later. They said trees bloom in June up there. I told them we had been wearing shorts for a few weeks in St. Louis, and tree flowers have long since come and gone.

I visited refurbished Union Station in downtown Denver and ate dinner there. It has both light rail and Amtrak tracks at the station on parallel tracks. I noticed that trains were allowed to back in and then pull back out, like the old St. Louis Union station. I guess Amtrak didn't impose a through-track-only requirement in Denver as they did in St. Louis. LIght rail construction seems to be going on unabated there. They recently opened the line to the airport.

The airport there is pretty nice, however when I returned Monday evening, all four of the escalators from the tram up to the gates were busted in concourse C. They directed everyone up four flights of fire stairs, or to a line forming at the elevators. So I guess they sometimes have issues too.

Rode back on what appeared to be a brand new SW 737-800 with 787-style led colored interior lighting, etc. that they change to soft blue at night for dozing. Took a photo of KC from the air at night.

Kansas City from 40,000 Feet. by Gary Kreie, on Flickr

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PostMay 04, 2016#376

gary kreie wrote:The airport there is pretty nice, however when I returned Monday evening, all four of the escalators from the tram up to the gates were busted in concourse C. They directed everyone up four flights of fire stairs, or to a line forming at the elevators. So I guess they sometimes have issues too.
I appreciate your observations. And it doesn't seem as if you were "hating" either.

Although I wish St. Louis Union Station could become a true Union Station again, I think it is great to travel to other cities because you get to see the good, bad and ugly of cities. You also get to see what St. Louis is doing right (or better) in comparison. You get to see the imperfections of other places.

Before Dallas renovated its Love Field, I had a connecting flight there. I had to go to the men's restroom and it was the pissiest airport bathroom I had ever been to in my life - yet this was "Dallas" - a place I am very familiar with. I've never experienced anything like it at Lambert.

Yet, there are some St. Louisans who tend to think everything is always better and more functional in other cities.

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PostMay 06, 2016#377

I can't quite believe Denver stubbed Union Station. It was a fairly historic example of a through station. Originally, it's configuration was much like Kansas City's, but without the concourse above the tracks. (Can't quite remember if there were tunnels between platforms or how it worked. Too long ago.) In any case, I suspect the way to lure Amtrak back into our own historic Union Station would involved a considerable subsidy: something along the lines of free rent. That and waiting a few years for their present terminal to become overcrowded, obsolete, or both. Haven't been through the new building yet, oddly. Need to fix that.

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PostSep 20, 2016#378

Saint Louis metro just dropped a turd on GDP data

St. Louis GDP growth slows to 1.3 percent
http://www.stltoday.com/business/column ... um=twitter

St. Louis' growth rate ranked 212th among all U.S. metro areas, which collectively had GDP growth of 2.5 percent.

2014 was the best in the post-recession period at 1.5% so it's not all gloom and doom but we just seem to have trouble getting consistent growth.

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PostSep 20, 2016#379

Meanwhile, last night the Regional Chamber was having another pad on the back for job done dinner with the MO legislatures

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PostSep 20, 2016#380

^ of course... we need to just clap louder!

PostSep 20, 2016#381

Looking at the data, STL really is lagging behind its rust belt/midwest peers... for the two year 14-15 average, it looks like we only have bested Buffalo. (We did slightly better than CLE in 15, but was well below in '14.) Pittsburgh GDP growth has been particularly top notch, but we'll have to see if there is any substantial slowdown due to oil decline.

http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/regiona ... ro0916.pdf

But STL isn't the only disappointment in Missouri... the KC Metro gdp growth is a bit better but definitely below average and gdp has actually been dropping in many smaller cities like Joplin, Cape G., Jefferson City and St. Joe's. Even Columbia has been slogging at a slower rate of growth than STL. Only Springfield seems to be doing okay.

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PostSep 20, 2016#382

^ The interesting thing is the juxtaposition of this with the one post last week from 538 noting the rapid rise in startups in St. Louis. It noted that multiple metros in Missouri were among the top increase in percentage of people in new businesses. It is possible that the GDP growth is related to this, since I remember that sometimes these readings will miss startup companies.

Other factors that could be in consideration is an above average number of people retiring relative to general population and how the Metro East portion of the metro has been really struggling overall

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PostSep 20, 2016#383

^ there certainly can be a relationship b/w a struggling economy and lay-offs. etc. and the rate of start-ups. In terms of industry, the lackluster gdp showing for STL metro evidently was led by a drop in finance and govt. (Construction is doing pretty well and I bet that will zoom in the coming years as mega projects from SLU and WashU to NGA come ramp up.)

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PostSep 20, 2016#384

imperialmog wrote:^ The interesting thing is the juxtaposition of this with the one post last week from 538 noting the rapid rise in startups in St. Louis. It noted that multiple metros in Missouri were among the top increase in percentage of people in new businesses. It is possible that the GDP growth is related to this, since I remember that sometimes these readings will miss startup companies.
Well, start-ups are small by definition, right? So I wouldn't expect them to impact GDP until some of them start really taking off.

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PostSep 20, 2016#385

It would be nice to know the county break down to see where we are hurting as a region. A lot of Illinois is negative. I'd like to see how the MO and IL side of STL compare and how each county compares. Is negative growth in Illinois bringing down our numbers? Is it the county or the city?

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PostSep 20, 2016#386

^ it would be good to know; but since a drop in finance is a big part of it I can see Mo side having its fair share of responsibility even if Metro East has its issues, e.g. mabybe with a drop from the govt. sector.

^^ yeah, that's what he's sayin but the flip side... our lackluster gdp helps account for our start-up numbers.

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PostSep 20, 2016#387

And yet we added 1600 jobs in August:

http://www.stltoday.com/business/column ... 2fd3c.html

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PostSep 20, 2016#388

Better news on the jobs front...

St. Louis adds 1,600 jobs despite manufacturing slump
http://www.stltoday.com/business/column ... 2fd3c.html

although the monthly numbers can get adjusted later on, the seasonally-adjust numbers showi 1.7% growth (23,600 jobs) over the past year in the Metro, which is an par with the national average and above Missouri's rate of 1.0%

PostSep 20, 2016#389

St. Louis Shows Biggest Gain in Foreign-Born Population of 20 Largest Metros

http://www.riverfronttimes.com/newsblog ... est-metros

St. Louis notched an 8.9 percent increase in foreign-born residents from 2014 to 2015, according to data released from the U.S. Census Bureau late last week. That's larger percent increase than any of the nation's other twenty largest metro areas....

For St. Louis, the foreign-born gains reflect an increase of about 10,623 new residents. The region as a whole is home to 2.8 million residents; just 129,559 of them are foreign-born. So while our numerical gains weren't nearly as high as many other large cities, the percentage increase shows a very real jump....

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PostSep 21, 2016#390

STLrainbow wrote:Saint Louis metro just dropped a turd on GDP data

St. Louis GDP growth slows to 1.3 percent
http://www.stltoday.com/business/column ... um=twitter

St. Louis' growth rate ranked 212th among all U.S. metro areas, which collectively had GDP growth of 2.5 percent.

2014 was the best in the post-recession period at 1.5% so it's not all gloom and doom but we just seem to have trouble getting consistent growth.
Truthfully I don't know how important GDP is on a city level, if we still had 3 auto plants cranking 7 days a week here it would crank the GDP up but have little affect on the real economic health of the region, i know it would mean probably 6,000 jobs back that vaporized, but that GDP number would not be reflected in real salaries.

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PostSep 21, 2016#391

^Yep.

As long as GDP isn't growth isn't negative, I don't care. If it hovers around zero but graduation rates and buildings occupied increases, that's good enough for me.

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PostSep 23, 2016#392

Blame the Banks for All Those Boring Chain Stores Ruining Your City
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... -your-city

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PostOct 05, 2016#393

Here's the planned vision at Nashville's airport.


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PostOct 05, 2016#394

eh.... So over Nashville hype.

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PostOct 05, 2016#395

Milwaukee Biz Journal has a neat slide show of aerial pics of some of the bigger projects being constructed across their region
http://www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/bl ... m-the.html

Downtown projects include the new Bucks arena site, NW Mutual, etc.. Would be pretty cool I think for our Biz Journal to do the same... or better yet maybe Arch can kickstart funding for drone video.

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