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PostMay 04, 2016#376

gary kreie wrote:The airport there is pretty nice, however when I returned Monday evening, all four of the escalators from the tram up to the gates were busted in concourse C. They directed everyone up four flights of fire stairs, or to a line forming at the elevators. So I guess they sometimes have issues too.
I appreciate your observations. And it doesn't seem as if you were "hating" either.

Although I wish St. Louis Union Station could become a true Union Station again, I think it is great to travel to other cities because you get to see the good, bad and ugly of cities. You also get to see what St. Louis is doing right (or better) in comparison. You get to see the imperfections of other places.

Before Dallas renovated its Love Field, I had a connecting flight there. I had to go to the men's restroom and it was the pissiest airport bathroom I had ever been to in my life - yet this was "Dallas" - a place I am very familiar with. I've never experienced anything like it at Lambert.

Yet, there are some St. Louisans who tend to think everything is always better and more functional in other cities.

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PostMay 06, 2016#377

I can't quite believe Denver stubbed Union Station. It was a fairly historic example of a through station. Originally, it's configuration was much like Kansas City's, but without the concourse above the tracks. (Can't quite remember if there were tunnels between platforms or how it worked. Too long ago.) In any case, I suspect the way to lure Amtrak back into our own historic Union Station would involved a considerable subsidy: something along the lines of free rent. That and waiting a few years for their present terminal to become overcrowded, obsolete, or both. Haven't been through the new building yet, oddly. Need to fix that.

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PostSep 20, 2016#378

Saint Louis metro just dropped a turd on GDP data

St. Louis GDP growth slows to 1.3 percent
http://www.stltoday.com/business/column ... um=twitter

St. Louis' growth rate ranked 212th among all U.S. metro areas, which collectively had GDP growth of 2.5 percent.

2014 was the best in the post-recession period at 1.5% so it's not all gloom and doom but we just seem to have trouble getting consistent growth.

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PostSep 20, 2016#379

Meanwhile, last night the Regional Chamber was having another pad on the back for job done dinner with the MO legislatures

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PostSep 20, 2016#380

^ of course... we need to just clap louder!

PostSep 20, 2016#381

Looking at the data, STL really is lagging behind its rust belt/midwest peers... for the two year 14-15 average, it looks like we only have bested Buffalo. (We did slightly better than CLE in 15, but was well below in '14.) Pittsburgh GDP growth has been particularly top notch, but we'll have to see if there is any substantial slowdown due to oil decline.

http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/regiona ... ro0916.pdf

But STL isn't the only disappointment in Missouri... the KC Metro gdp growth is a bit better but definitely below average and gdp has actually been dropping in many smaller cities like Joplin, Cape G., Jefferson City and St. Joe's. Even Columbia has been slogging at a slower rate of growth than STL. Only Springfield seems to be doing okay.

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^ The interesting thing is the juxtaposition of this with the one post last week from 538 noting the rapid rise in startups in St. Louis. It noted that multiple metros in Missouri were among the top increase in percentage of people in new businesses. It is possible that the GDP growth is related to this, since I remember that sometimes these readings will miss startup companies.

Other factors that could be in consideration is an above average number of people retiring relative to general population and how the Metro East portion of the metro has been really struggling overall

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^ there certainly can be a relationship b/w a struggling economy and lay-offs. etc. and the rate of start-ups. In terms of industry, the lackluster gdp showing for STL metro evidently was led by a drop in finance and govt. (Construction is doing pretty well and I bet that will zoom in the coming years as mega projects from SLU and WashU to NGA come ramp up.)

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imperialmog wrote:^ The interesting thing is the juxtaposition of this with the one post last week from 538 noting the rapid rise in startups in St. Louis. It noted that multiple metros in Missouri were among the top increase in percentage of people in new businesses. It is possible that the GDP growth is related to this, since I remember that sometimes these readings will miss startup companies.
Well, start-ups are small by definition, right? So I wouldn't expect them to impact GDP until some of them start really taking off.

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PostSep 20, 2016#385

It would be nice to know the county break down to see where we are hurting as a region. A lot of Illinois is negative. I'd like to see how the MO and IL side of STL compare and how each county compares. Is negative growth in Illinois bringing down our numbers? Is it the county or the city?

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PostSep 20, 2016#386

^ it would be good to know; but since a drop in finance is a big part of it I can see Mo side having its fair share of responsibility even if Metro East has its issues, e.g. mabybe with a drop from the govt. sector.

^^ yeah, that's what he's sayin but the flip side... our lackluster gdp helps account for our start-up numbers.

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PostSep 20, 2016#387

And yet we added 1600 jobs in August:

http://www.stltoday.com/business/column ... 2fd3c.html

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PostSep 20, 2016#388

Better news on the jobs front...

St. Louis adds 1,600 jobs despite manufacturing slump
http://www.stltoday.com/business/column ... 2fd3c.html

although the monthly numbers can get adjusted later on, the seasonally-adjust numbers showi 1.7% growth (23,600 jobs) over the past year in the Metro, which is an par with the national average and above Missouri's rate of 1.0%

PostSep 20, 2016#389

St. Louis Shows Biggest Gain in Foreign-Born Population of 20 Largest Metros

http://www.riverfronttimes.com/newsblog ... est-metros

St. Louis notched an 8.9 percent increase in foreign-born residents from 2014 to 2015, according to data released from the U.S. Census Bureau late last week. That's larger percent increase than any of the nation's other twenty largest metro areas....

For St. Louis, the foreign-born gains reflect an increase of about 10,623 new residents. The region as a whole is home to 2.8 million residents; just 129,559 of them are foreign-born. So while our numerical gains weren't nearly as high as many other large cities, the percentage increase shows a very real jump....

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PostSep 21, 2016#390

STLrainbow wrote:Saint Louis metro just dropped a turd on GDP data

St. Louis GDP growth slows to 1.3 percent
http://www.stltoday.com/business/column ... um=twitter

St. Louis' growth rate ranked 212th among all U.S. metro areas, which collectively had GDP growth of 2.5 percent.

2014 was the best in the post-recession period at 1.5% so it's not all gloom and doom but we just seem to have trouble getting consistent growth.
Truthfully I don't know how important GDP is on a city level, if we still had 3 auto plants cranking 7 days a week here it would crank the GDP up but have little affect on the real economic health of the region, i know it would mean probably 6,000 jobs back that vaporized, but that GDP number would not be reflected in real salaries.

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PostSep 21, 2016#391

^Yep.

As long as GDP isn't growth isn't negative, I don't care. If it hovers around zero but graduation rates and buildings occupied increases, that's good enough for me.

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PostSep 23, 2016#392

Blame the Banks for All Those Boring Chain Stores Ruining Your City
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... -your-city

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PostOct 05, 2016#393

Here's the planned vision at Nashville's airport.


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PostOct 05, 2016#394

eh.... So over Nashville hype.

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PostOct 05, 2016#395

Milwaukee Biz Journal has a neat slide show of aerial pics of some of the bigger projects being constructed across their region
http://www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/bl ... m-the.html

Downtown projects include the new Bucks arena site, NW Mutual, etc.. Would be pretty cool I think for our Biz Journal to do the same... or better yet maybe Arch can kickstart funding for drone video.

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PostOct 05, 2016#396

Where Local Governments Are Paying the Bills With Police Fines
Missouri .07
http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/3783 ... lice-fines

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PostOct 06, 2016#397

STLrainbow wrote: Would be pretty cool I think for our Biz Journal to do the same... or better yet maybe Arch can kickstart funding for drone video.
It would be great if NextSTL.com had a resident drone and operator. :D

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PostOct 11, 2016#398

Looks like the Biz Journal has projected 'terrible' population growth for STL, through 2040.

What in the hell are we doing wrong here!!!? Obviously, we've discussed this topic at length, but there has to be something holding us back that we are not seeing, when you look other parts of the State.
KC is projected to grow 16% while STL only .8% in that same time period! :evil:

http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news ... j=76088341

http://www.bizjournals.com/bizjournals/ ... ethod.html

The St. Louis metropolitan area’s population is slated to grow just 0.8 percent from 2015 to 2040, seventh worst among all major U.S. markets, according to new projections from American City Business Journals.

ACBJ has generated population projections for 933 metropolitan and micropolitan areas, based on raw data from the U.S. Census Bureau and the University of Virginia’s Weldon Cooper Center for Public Service. Click here for the full methodology.
From 2015 to 2020, St. Louis’ growth is projected to be even worse, at 0.6 percent.

Many areas in Missouri could perform much better; the projections list Columbia in first, with growth of 34.6 percent through 2040; Springfield with growth of 23.7 percent; Branson with growth of 21.2 percent; Fort Leonard Wood with growth of 21.2 percent; Kansas City with growth of 16 percent; Farmington with growth of 11.2 percent; Joplin with growth of 6.8 percent; Cape Girardeau with growth of 5.2 percent; Warrensburg with growth of 2.5 percent; and Jefferson City with growth of 1.3 percent.

Worst in Missouri? Kennett, with a projected population loss of 20.7 percent, to 24,507.

The South will continue to boom, according to the projections.

Austin is the hottest member of this group, poised for a prospective increase of 98.5 percent over 25 years. The population of Texas’ capital region, which reached 2 million last year, is projected to soar to nearly 4 million by 2040.

Seven of Austin’s fellow Southern metros — three of them in Texas — are next on the list of major markets likely to experience rapid growth during the quarter-century: Cape Coral-Fort Myers, Florida (projected increase of 82.5 percent), Raleigh (71.9 percent), Orlando (67.7 percent), Houston (66.7 percent), San Antonio (57.3 percent), Dallas-Fort Worth (53.5 percent) and Charleston, South Carolina (53.4 percent).

The West makes its first appearance in ninth place, thanks to Denver’s anticipated 25-year growth rate of 52.4 percent. Then another Southern (and Texan) metro rounds out the top 10: McAllen-Edinburg at 51.3 percent.


At the opposite end of the scale are five metropolitan hubs — all in the Northeastern-Midwestern industrial belt — that are projected to suffer population declines between 2015 and 2040.

The sharpest anticipated drop is 8.4 percent in the Cleveland area. Also predicted to suffer population erosions are Pittsburgh (projected decline of 7.1 percent), Detroit (3.5 percent), Buffalo (3.3 percent) and Hartford (1.7 percent).

Projecting population trends is as much an art as a science — and often an inexact art at that. But it nonetheless offers an interesting, useful and provocative view of the future.

No one can foresee all of the economic twists and demographic turns that the coming 25 years will bring, but ACBJ’s projections suggest a range of intriguing possibilities. Here are seven additional points of particular interest:

1. New York City will retain first place by a comfortable margin.

Los Angeles is growing at a faster pace, but there is no way it will catch New York atop the nation's metropolitan standings by 2040. It won't even come close.

New York's population will be 22.5 million a quarter-century from now, according to ACBJ's projections. Los Angeles will be a distant No. 2 with roughly 15 million residents.

2. Chicago will drop a couple of notches.

Chicago became known as America's Second City because of its runner-up status to New York in every federal census between 1890 and 1980. But L.A. now holds second place, and Chicago's grip on third appears to be precarious.




ACBJ envisions Houston shooting up to No. 3 with a 2040 metropolitan population of 11.1 million, followed by Dallas-Fort Worth at 10.9 million. That leaves Chicago in fifth at 9.7 million.

3. Philadelphia and Boston will say goodbye to the top 10.

Philadelphia has been on a very gradual decline for a long, long time. It reigned as the nation's second-largest city until 1890, when it was supplanted by Chicago. It is No. 7 in the current metropolitan rankings, though ACBJ anticipates a drop to 11th place by 2040.

Boston is barely holding onto 10th place right now, maintaining a narrow lead over San Francisco-Oakland, Phoenix, and Riverside-San Bernardino, California. All three are expected to pass Boston during the next 25 years, pushing it down to 13th place.

4. Austin will enjoy the strongest rise in the top 50.

No real surprise here. Austin's projected population increase of 98.5 percent is far and away the largest for any major market, so the logical result should be a climb of several rungs on the demographic ladder.

How about an even dozen? Austin currently ranks 33rd in the metropolitan hierarchy. ACBJ expects it to be 21st by 2040.

Raleigh comes next with a projected rise of nine places — 44th now, 35th in a quarter-century.

5. Buffalo will slip the farthest of any member of the top 50.

Buffalo is hanging on by its fingertips, currently maintaining a grip on 50th place in the metropolitan standings. But it will drop all the way to 61st — a fall of 11 notches — if ACBJ's scenario becomes reality in 2040.

Pittsburgh is expected to slip almost as far. It is predicted to drop 10 places from 26th now to 36th by then.

6. Eight medium-sized markets are projected to grow by at least 50 percent in the coming 25 years.

ACBJ's report encompasses all metropolitan and micropolitan areas, not just those beyond the 1 million threshold.

Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, is the hottest growth prospect among metros fitting in the medium category (500,000 to 999,999 residents as of 2040). It's expected to expand by 85.2 percent, reaching a population of 800,000.

Other rapid growers of medium size are Greeley, Colorado (projected increase of 78.5 percent), Provo, Utah (69.1 percent), Fayetteville-Springdale, Arkansas (58.3 percent), Naples, Florida (56.2 percent), Fort Collins, Colorado (54.1 percent), Des Moines (50.1 percent) and Port St. Lucie, Florida (50.0 percent).

7. Six medium metros are likely to be smaller in 2040 than they are today.

Toledo is poised for the sharpest decline. Its current metropolitan population is 606,000, but ACBJ is projecting a 25-year loss of 46,200 (7.6 percent), dropping it to a rough total of 560,000.

Also expected to finish on the downside are Scranton-Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania (projected decline of 6.9 percent), Dayton (4.9 percent), Akron (3.4 percent), New Haven, Connecticut (3.1 percent) and Syracuse (0.1 percent).

Full breakdowns for all 933 metropolitan and micropolitan areas are available in the database of projections accompanying this story.

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PostOct 11, 2016#399

^ how accurate are these projections though? i honestly think STL city, at least, will perform better than this. and i couldn't care less if the rest of the metro grows. again, the big things holding STL back are the relative poverty of the inner city, the crime (also the state's fault—who needs gun regulations?), regressive politicians/politics (also the state's fault—who needs legislators that give a sh*t about the state's urban centers?), and the car culture/utter lack of concern for non-car commuters (also the state's fault—who needs funding for non-expressway transit projects?). otherwise many more entrepreneurs would be moving to STL to take advantage of our start-up amenities and cost of living. oh, wait, it does sound pretty bleak...

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PostOct 11, 2016#400

How many of those fast growing metros are have large areas where you can live carless? Austin traffic is already a nightmare, how are they going to grow so quickly and keep a high standard of living?

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