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McKenzie by LUX Delcrest Plaza in University City (170/Delmar)

McKenzie by LUX Delcrest Plaza in University City (170/Delmar)

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PostDec 04, 2019#1

Tall mixed use project in the works for this hideous strip center.  

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PostDec 04, 2019#2

Very interesting; and not surprising. This is a great site that's been underutilized for years. Too bad they couldn't have included the land just to the east, where Walgreen's just built a new store.

 

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PostDec 04, 2019#3

moorlander wrote:
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Tall mixed use project in the works for this hideous strip center.  
Nice. Hopefully it happens.

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PostDec 05, 2019#4

Tall? Will this mean the NIMBYs will come out and try to kill it? 

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PostDec 05, 2019#5

Do you know if it involves demolition of the current tallish building? I hope not- that is so retro U. City and I love it.

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PostDec 05, 2019#6

^Yeah, not to mention that my dentist is in that building 😬

I don't expect too much push-back. There's very little single family housing around there. Lots of apartments and retirement communities, and it's already pretty densely built-up with mid and high-rises. My neighbors in U City loved to complain about the traffic at that intersection, though. 

PostDec 05, 2019#7

OK, folks, here we go. This project is about 2/3 of the way down this attachment. Renderings, site plans, descriptions, etc. 

“The proposed development proposes a new upscale mixed-use development that will include corner retail with outside dining, a 5-story Element by Westin Hotel, one of Marriott’s “distinctive stay” brands, and a luxury 4-story apartment building. The combination of uses are all built over a 2 level podium garage that is buried on the Delmar and Delcrest sides, and is semi-open but screened with landscaping to the West and to the South”

Looks like the old doctor's building is coming down. 

http://apps.ucitymo.org/PublicPortal/El ... 428&dbid=0

PostDec 05, 2019#8

Delmar elevation:


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PostDec 05, 2019#9

so... ugly... can't... breath... ☠

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PostDec 05, 2019#10

It's a decent project. Not tall though. The document posted is from the October meeting, so maybe things have changed,

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PostDec 05, 2019#11

It’s okay. I’d rather it be taller also but I am not sure how it compares to the other buildings just south. I also would like to see the entrance on Delmar gone and make everyone use delcrest. It has a stop light so that would be better than people darting onto Delmar. It’s already a mess there with the road coming from Schnucks.

Nothing special but I don’t hate it. Better than what is there now. Reminds me of the Barton a bit.

I doubt there is much nimby pushback. Not that Ucity seems to listen to it much anyway. If this was Clayton it might be a different story.

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PostDec 05, 2019#12

Well . . . I can't say as I like the exterior. It's remarkably uninspiring. But I like having something that isn't parking covering the entire street frontage, and indeed the entire lot, really. Looks a lid on a surface lot, but if they can make it work . . . I too like the doctor's building chunk, but I'll live with it. Maybe politely suggest better exterior materials.

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PostDec 05, 2019#13

Ok so it's not so tall.  The way it was described to me I assumed the retail, hotel and apartments would be stacked not side by side.  

PostDec 05, 2019#14

jshank83 wrote:I also would like to see the entrance on Delmar gone and make everyone use delcrest. It has a stop light so that would be better than people darting onto Delmar. It’s already a mess there with the road coming from Schnucks.

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Site plan is nice. Garage entry is still on Delmar.

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PostDec 05, 2019#15

I really like that the courtyard and dog park are in the center of the development. I wish more developments would do that. 

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PostDec 05, 2019#16

I like the site plan...not so much the design.

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PostDec 05, 2019#17

^100% agreed. 

I think the building is pretty hideous, and I hope the developers go back to the drawing board, but I like the site plan and the massing. 

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PostDec 05, 2019#18

10 minute bike or bus ride to Downtown Clayton. Immediate access to greenway directly to grocery.

Ideal location for car-free or car-lite people.


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PostDec 05, 2019#19

From a member of the U City Planning Commission, on Nextdoor:

"We (Plan Commission) heard their proposal for a combination hotel and apartment development. The parking proposal was far from adequate to meet our code. They have contracted a parking and traffic expert and will present again. So far we've not heard a TIF request."

PostDec 05, 2019#20

Here's the site today. The five-story building in the middle of the pic would go away:



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PostDec 06, 2019#21

framer wrote:
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From a member of the U City Planning Commission, on Nextdoor:

"We (Plan Commission) heard their proposal for a combination hotel and apartment development. The parking proposal was far from adequate to meet our code. They have contracted a parking and traffic expert and will present again. So far we've not heard a TIF request."
Aw, Christ. Seriously? It's not even requestingn a TIF, but they're going to hit it with parking minimums? To hell with U City's planning commission.

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PostDec 06, 2019#22

U City getting in their own way again it seems.

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PostDec 06, 2019#23

BTW, the Crown Center retirement community (the two concrete high-rises just south of Delcrest Plaza) are said to be planning an expansion. 

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PostDec 06, 2019#24

Did anyone ever try that Mexican restaurant? I never did but always wanted to when I'd drove past it. Exterior colors gave off a nice vibe.

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PostDec 06, 2019#25

John Coctostan wrote:
Dec 06, 2019
Did anyone ever try that Mexican restaurant? I never did but always wanted to when I'd drove past it. Exterior colors gave off a nice vibe.
I completely forgot about this until now but a guy I dated back in 2014 used to go there quite a bit. He really liked it. 

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