Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that Icahn can't drag the properties down, but just saying that even if Lumiere is Icahnized, it still won't be nearly as bad for the city as say the TWA demise or loss of a manufacturer employing thousands with high pay. Casinos essentially just shift entertainment dollars from within the region and not creating new $$ for the economy) and are low pay jobs; the other thing in our favor is that with no more casino licenses to let in Missouri, it essentially is a monopoly. It may get down-trodden and employ and attract fewer people, but it isn't going anywhere and the overall hit to Saint Louis wouldn't be that great.dredger wrote:^ Tropicana like any other company can be burden with debt so I wouldn't agree wholeheartedly with your comments Roger. Hopefully, I will be mistaken for what I perceive will happen and what will happen after the sale. .
So basically we can expect another Ballpark Village on the landing... super.However, Babinski said Tropicana is mulling a “bigger idea” for the area than the existing parking lots but first wants to see how the new Ballpark Village development across downtown does during the off season.
No doubt. Demo of Sligo Steel should be a priority, and that would make available a large swath of development potential to the north and northeast.goat314 wrote:The casino could benefit from some beautification around the immediate area. In fact, I'm actually very surprised that the Lumiere and the Four Seasons hasn't push for more development or at least beautification around the area.
I seriously hope that the "Phase II" of Lumiere Place still includes the condos and mixed-use projects, however I think adding the previously talked about Ferris Wheel along the river and other attractions could make the landing a unique destination. There are already bars and restaurants on the Landing, so hopefully whatever is built it will complement the existing businesses and further enhance what’s left of our historic riverfront.Previous Lumière Place management under Pinnacle had once considered redoing the area from the casino complex to the Mississippi River as condos and mixed-use projects. That plan eventually died with the recession and change of leadership at the casino operator.
However, Babinski said Tropicana is mulling a “bigger idea” for the area than the existing parking lots but first wants to see how the new Ballpark Village development across downtown does during the off season.
Wouldn't make it unique anymore! LHM (Lodging Hospitality Management) has already announced it'll be placing a 200ft. ferris wheel at Union Station (though, sadly, not the idea that I posed -- having it actually rise through the trainshed roof...). Much better location at US than LL anyway, and will hopefully lead to even more development in/under the trainshed (c'mon trainshed ice rink!)vpr611 wrote:I seriously hope that the "Phase II" of Lumiere Place still includes the condos and mixed-use projects, however I think adding the previously talked about Ferris Wheel along the river and other attractions could make the landing a unique destination. There are already bars and restaurants on the Landing, so hopefully whatever is built it will complement the existing businesses and further enhance what’s left of our historic riverfront.
Yeah, no messing with Kevin's Union Station ferris wheel. It is his idea and he's angling to be the operator! Kevin, will you be taking tips, btw?Kevin B wrote:Wouldn't make it unique anymore! LHM (Lodging Hospitality Management) has already announced it'll be placing a 200ft. ferris wheel at Union Station (though, sadly, not the idea that I posed -- having it actually rise through the trainshed roof...). Much better location at US than LL anyway, and will hopefully lead to even more development in/under the trainshed (c'mon trainshed ice rink!)vpr611 wrote:I seriously hope that the "Phase II" of Lumiere Place still includes the condos and mixed-use projects, however I think adding the previously talked about Ferris Wheel along the river and other attractions could make the landing a unique destination. There are already bars and restaurants on the Landing, so hopefully whatever is built it will complement the existing businesses and further enhance what’s left of our historic riverfront.
Hey that would beat out Las Vegas right? Adding condos or apartments to Lacledes landing would help out both Lumiere and the landing itself.. Everyone's not going to gamble but the one that do are likely to spend a lot cash... There needs to be a bigger draw to the landing and i believe residential is #1... Are there any plans to get rid of that ugly hotel/motel across from Lumiere?Ha! Nah, no vanity here. All I ask is that they name it after me...roger wyoming II wrote:Yeah, no messing with Kevin's Union Station ferris wheel. It is his idea and he's angling to be the operator! Kevin, will you be taking tips, btw?
