But i like the implication here, regardless. both in that the building could be as tall as Cardinal Way AND exhibit some level of creative design. Which would be way better than the southern boom city pillar I posted above.
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In my opinion, something more cylindrical might play well on the corner...contrasting One Hundred's sharp angles.
Maybe something like this: https://studiogang.com/project/one-delisle
Maybe something like this: https://studiogang.com/project/one-delisle
^ Definitely.
Edit: I took a look at Emporis, the building statistic database, and based on the heights they’re listing for St. Louis buildings, the 12th tallest in the region is 212 in Clayton at 380’. However, Emporis seems to have some different heights than other sources, OCW is only 320’ according to them.
If Chris’ prediction holds true I’m guessing this one will be right around One Hundred’s height. Hopefully a little taller.
Edit: I took a look at Emporis, the building statistic database, and based on the heights they’re listing for St. Louis buildings, the 12th tallest in the region is 212 in Clayton at 380’. However, Emporis seems to have some different heights than other sources, OCW is only 320’ according to them.
If Chris’ prediction holds true I’m guessing this one will be right around One Hundred’s height. Hopefully a little taller.
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Perhaps they'll go more Deco than the Park East and give us something (scaled down a bit) like the comcast tower. slender spire, base extends back along lindell toward the shorter neighbor while slender profile minimizes impact...
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Is adding balconies to overlook parks a new learning or trend for taller buildings near overlooks? Looking at these examples and comparing them to One Hundred, I'm wondering if being able to sit out on your personal balcony and look over the best urban park in the country will be a touch point for this spot?
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Moorlander - I will settle for that 
Patti - You are probably right, I think it will be a focus, but this is why I was thinking the "terraced" design, similar to these older art deco builds would make sense. Solid terraces as the building telescopes as opposed to jutting balconies.
Patti - You are probably right, I think it will be a focus, but this is why I was thinking the "terraced" design, similar to these older art deco builds would make sense. Solid terraces as the building telescopes as opposed to jutting balconies.
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This is the best post I've read in quite some time. These ideas that everyone is posting up are great as well. What if this.....What if that.... I eagerly await this proposal and the accompanying architect's renderings. I do hope something is announced before the holidays, or sooner. Oh boy, this is gonna be super cool!chriss752 wrote: ↑Sep 09, 2021I believe the design is worthy to share the Central West End skyline with the Chase and 100. In some aspects, I feel like it achieves a much better "big city" feel than 100 does and honestly looks like something you'd see in New York or Chicago. It's a stand-out building, but feels like it has its place and home right here in the Central West End. It just seems natural for this site and neighborhood in a way.
Moderators, I encourage you to change the title since Koman and KPF are no longer involved. Maybe just change it to "Koplar's Lindell and Kingshighway Project".
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Found what I think will be an excellent concept design for this site. Has the deco look (Neo Art Deco/Streamline Moderne), hard terraces and the balconies Mr. MaGee noted were much needed to enjoy the park views:
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Chris, please confirm the accuracy of my musings.
Chris, please confirm the accuracy of my musings.
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As I said, I'm trying to describe a conceptual look for the new tower, not trying to find an image of exact height.
That said this is 28 stories tall, and at 14 feet a floor it would be roughly 392' so think its fairly accurate, regardless.
That said this is 28 stories tall, and at 14 feet a floor it would be roughly 392' so think its fairly accurate, regardless.
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I love the art Deco. I'm just bullish on height here. I would like to see something approaching 500ft
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^Bold strategy.
Since Chris said top 12 in height I think we know where it will slot in pretty accurately. Not that I would mind it going to 500'...
Since Chris said top 12 in height I think we know where it will slot in pretty accurately. Not that I would mind it going to 500'...
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Just my opinion, but I think this would be more appropriate a bit deeper in the CWE neighborhood (ie: West Pine parking lot just west of Euclid)TheWayoftheArch_V2.0 wrote: ↑Sep 22, 2021Found what I think will be an excellent concept design for this site. Has the deco look (Neo Art Deco/Streamline Moderne), hard terraces and the balconies Mr. MaGee noted were much needed to enjoy the park views:
Chris, please confirm the accuracy of my musings.
I'd like to see something more bold for this corner overlooking the park.
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Show me what you mean by bold, maybe? find an image, post it. It's all conjecture until Chris spills the beans.
As I said in another thread, there's a pretty good example of what this will look like in another city in the Midwest. That's a purposely vague statement since if I said the City, people would know right away and then the fun of guessing would be over.
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I like this Easter Egg and will now go to town on the search...
Feels like I'm the only one guessing
Feels like I'm the only one guessing
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From a few posts above: viewtopic.php?p=347865#p347865TheWayoftheArch_V2.0 wrote: ↑Sep 22, 2021Show me what you mean by bold, maybe? find an image, post it. It's all conjecture until Chris spills the beans.
Good luck with that. So many possibilities.TheWayoftheArch_V2.0 wrote: ↑Sep 22, 2021I like this Easter Egg and will now go to town on the search...
Feels like I'm the only one guessing
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As I told Moorlander, that is okay in my book, too!
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Eleven in Minneapolis seems to fit your styleTheWayoftheArch_V2.0 wrote: ↑Sep 22, 2021As I told Moorlander, that is okay in my book, too!
https://elevenontheriver.com/
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I’ll guess something similar to the RBC Gateway in Minneapolis:
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^ Like it!
Think they'll go all glass? i keep leaning towards a little more conservative for the Plaza's sake but could be wrong.
Think they'll go all glass? i keep leaning towards a little more conservative for the Plaza's sake but could be wrong.
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I personally hope they do, or at least majority glass. The other two I'll toss out as my backup guesses are (obviously much shorter versions of) Cirrus and Cascade in Chicago. Nothing extreme about their designs, just simple, elegant lines with clear glass that help add something different for St. Louis' brick and stone buildings to contrast to:
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I'm feeling the hint is more different to laypeople... so I'm thinking shape-wise unique.
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