It's a neat building. Who owns it?
^ LRA
(You've got about two years to get the plans and financing together.)
(You've got about two years to get the plans and financing together.)
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publiceye wrote:(You've got about two years to get the plans and financing together.)
Ha! You haven't seen our latest brickwork bid. No new projects for us.
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JCity wrote:They push the boundaries far more in other countries. We need to drop the neotraditionalist crap. Sorry to turn this into an architectural critque page.
Go rams.
St. Louis' Biggest Mistake:
http://207.160.50.21/images/imagedb/Str ... etch%2Ejpg
I totally agree. I am a big time proponent of preservation. But neo-traditionalism is tragic. And Ironically, it's biggest supporters often are the types that support tearing down structures of significant architectural heritage IE Buder Building, Busch Stadium etc. and replacing them with structures that "fit in" with the remaining surroundings. Buildings like that Hampton Inn are a slap in the face of the real historic brick buildings of St. Louis, no more than a tramp in cheap makeup. Let' move forward and not try to re-create the past.
Man, Cityboy, that design of yours with the angles, etc. is incredible. So, it was scrapped because it was too expensive? From the (small) picture of the latest design, I'm afraid many people will still see this as a trailer or amshack. Obviously, it's hard to tell what it will utimately look like, but man, that other design was the JFK TWA terminal of train stations..
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I wish there were more/better renderings of the final design that fully illustrate the scale and actual placement of the new station. Can anyone post additional renderings?
Cityboy, your design reminds me of the South Station bus terminal in Boston which is also built over the tracks with a looping lane for the buses. Was it an influence on your design? Your model, with its signature acute ?movement? angles, is much more aesthetically pleasing than the one in beantown. It would have communicated a strong sense of place for newcomers and residents alike. It?s a shame the feds in power have no interest in providing funding for smarter transportation and its infrastructure.
Cityboy, your design reminds me of the South Station bus terminal in Boston which is also built over the tracks with a looping lane for the buses. Was it an influence on your design? Your model, with its signature acute ?movement? angles, is much more aesthetically pleasing than the one in beantown. It would have communicated a strong sense of place for newcomers and residents alike. It?s a shame the feds in power have no interest in providing funding for smarter transportation and its infrastructure.
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i have seen the final rendering. nothing very stimulating. it's was on an invitation to the ground breaking that is at my parents house. no i don't have a scanner. it appers as if there is a large glass wall that faces the metrolink stop. other then that, i have no idea what it looks like, how it fits on the site and context to the other surroundings. so basicaly i have nothing. only i've seen a crappy small rendering that shows nothing. but, but, at least it's finaly being built, 30 someodd years in the making. it took awhile.
Groundbreaking on new transportation hub as reported in the St. Louis Front Page (the news source for items not ever mentioned anywhere else):
http://www.slfp.com/CitySide.htm
It's obvious that this is an early April Fool's joke. Everyone knows that the hub will be planned and extensively talked about every 4 years but will never be built. The pictures of the groundbreaking ceremony are obvious fakes.
http://www.slfp.com/CitySide.htm
It's obvious that this is an early April Fool's joke. Everyone knows that the hub will be planned and extensively talked about every 4 years but will never be built. The pictures of the groundbreaking ceremony are obvious fakes.
The planning for the terminal began in 1978 when the last train pulled out of Union Station and a temporary Amtrak station was erected nearby. A proposal for a 22,000-square-foot Amtrak-Greyhound terminal, costing an estimated $26 million, was first unveiled in November 1997.
This is why St. Louis is no longer 4th, we take too long to act.
I wish I could see a bigger rendering, that's hard to discern. But it looks pretty cool.
There is a plan for the whole building at the bottom of the rendering. It looks better than I expected from above. It should turn out pretty good, I hope...
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was there any mention to this at all in the post today? i can't find anytinh on thier web site. if they didn't even mention this in as little as a short paragraph, i would be stuned. or not really. but very dissapointed. not neccessarly shocked.
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We, as a city, need to get the transport center finished ASAP. Not to be too negative, but St. Louis leadership must place zero importance on bus transport, that the leadership-class would never consider riding the bus.
The previous Greyhound station, downtown, before the dome, was nice. The Cass Bank outpost is a disgrace, likely the worst bus terminal for any city, large or small, in North America.
Took a girl there for an early morning departure. Hmmm what's it like? How welcoming is this arrival point to our city?
It's seemingly evicted from down-town; no windows; no gates (just use the old doors), inhabited by men sleeping, and groups of man walking about in clusters; a bank of loud and violent video games (one of the titles must have been, like, Stalk-and-Strangulation-Two); weed-trees and weeds growing out of the embankment; a vacant brick building across the street; no view; no one on duty at the desk; a worker at the coffee counter asleep with his mouth open; echos; no street parking; a gang of smokers crowding the front door; three angry men yelling and throwing clothes out of a car across a parking area, smashing their door open against my van; birds flying around inside the building, just like at the Chernobyl sarcophagus.
I saw that she got on her bus Okay; I'm sorry that I talked her out of Metrobus at Union Station.
What can we do to make this better in less than 27 or 10 years?
The previous Greyhound station, downtown, before the dome, was nice. The Cass Bank outpost is a disgrace, likely the worst bus terminal for any city, large or small, in North America.
Took a girl there for an early morning departure. Hmmm what's it like? How welcoming is this arrival point to our city?
It's seemingly evicted from down-town; no windows; no gates (just use the old doors), inhabited by men sleeping, and groups of man walking about in clusters; a bank of loud and violent video games (one of the titles must have been, like, Stalk-and-Strangulation-Two); weed-trees and weeds growing out of the embankment; a vacant brick building across the street; no view; no one on duty at the desk; a worker at the coffee counter asleep with his mouth open; echos; no street parking; a gang of smokers crowding the front door; three angry men yelling and throwing clothes out of a car across a parking area, smashing their door open against my van; birds flying around inside the building, just like at the Chernobyl sarcophagus.
I saw that she got on her bus Okay; I'm sorry that I talked her out of Metrobus at Union Station.
What can we do to make this better in less than 27 or 10 years?
^Uh, the new Amtrak/Greyhound station is now under construction. That's what this thread is all about.
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Yes. I know. The new project will be a good improvement; it has to be. I'm mostly venting . . . 27 years since Union Station closed, and 10 years since Greyhound closed the downtown center. Yes, I know that patience is a virtue.
Proof there is work actually going on here. There were no crews there at 8:00 this morning.
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great pictures... nice to see some progress. i was discussing the am-shack station downtown w/ my co-workers the other day and i went back home and did a yahoo search on "st. louis train station" and it was almost comical what yahoo suggested i also try searching for... i'll just leave it at that.
I guess there isn't an official website with this information on it. I looked on google and all I got was the St. Louis Union Station.
I still don't know just what the heck this new building is gonna look like! Have they ever released final renderings?
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These are the latest ones I have seen. They are from '02, I think. It seems too utilitarian, and non-inviting; kind of ugly to be truthful, but better than the glorified tent.
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From an earlier post on this thread.... about those pictures...
Cityboy wrote:That's the station that I designed but, alas, not the one being built. For those who don't know, there have been a number of redesigns over the last 15 years. This was the second to the last iteration. As I pointed out in an earlier post, the latest design will be built under 40 while the former design (above) was elevated over the traintracks.
Manchester, where did you get those images? I didn't know these were out floating around. At least they make a nice portfolio entry.
I found some renderings on the <a href="http://kai-db.com/">KAI Design & Build</a> website that I didn't see anywhere else in this thread. I'm sorry, but I have no idea if this is still what's going up. Is it just me or is there very little buzz about this project?
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By the way.... I've been reading for years and I think this is my first post.
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By the way.... I've been reading for years and I think this is my first post.
*waves*
Thanks for the post, Agent, and welcome to the Forum.
I haven't seen that rendering before either. I've seen lots and lots of renderings for this project, but I still don't know what's actually being built.
I haven't seen that rendering before either. I've seen lots and lots of renderings for this project, but I still don't know what's actually being built.
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Framer wrote:Thanks for the post, Agent, and welcome to the Forum.
I haven't seen that rendering before either. I've seen lots and lots of renderings for this project, but I still don't know what's actually being built.
I believe the renderings agent-88 posted are what is being built. The top rendering in agent-88's post is shown in this thread a couple of times, but at a much smaller scale.
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Not sure I'm posting this in the right place but I couldn't find a thread for Amtrak service.
Amtrak adds service from Chicago, Quincy
St. Louis Business Journal - 2:06 PM CDT Tuesday (10/10/06)
Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich said Tuesday that beginning Oct. 30, the state's partnership with Amtrak will include an additional train on the Quincy, Ill., to St. Louis corridor.
The expanded service comes after news that all state-sponsored Amtrak routes posted record ridership levels for Illinois' fiscal year 2006; the expansion also includes an additional round trip on the Chicago-Carbondale, Ill., line. Tickets for the new routes are currently on sale.
This expansion is part of a plan to more than double state-sponsored passenger rail service. This spring, Blagojevich and the Illinois General Assembly doubled state funding for passenger rail service by Amtrak from $12.1 million to $24 million.
Round trips between Chicago and downstate Illinois will increase...
http://stlouis.bizjournals.com/stlouis/ ... rround=lfn
Amtrak adds service from Chicago, Quincy
St. Louis Business Journal - 2:06 PM CDT Tuesday (10/10/06)
Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich said Tuesday that beginning Oct. 30, the state's partnership with Amtrak will include an additional train on the Quincy, Ill., to St. Louis corridor.
The expanded service comes after news that all state-sponsored Amtrak routes posted record ridership levels for Illinois' fiscal year 2006; the expansion also includes an additional round trip on the Chicago-Carbondale, Ill., line. Tickets for the new routes are currently on sale.
This expansion is part of a plan to more than double state-sponsored passenger rail service. This spring, Blagojevich and the Illinois General Assembly doubled state funding for passenger rail service by Amtrak from $12.1 million to $24 million.
Round trips between Chicago and downstate Illinois will increase...
http://stlouis.bizjournals.com/stlouis/ ... rround=lfn







