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PostFeb 08, 2021#151

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do customers get to select a hog and watch it get bludgeoned to death in the parking lot while it writhes and squeals in agony? like picking a lobster out of the tank at a fancy restaurant? that would be super kitsch.
I'd reasonably assume any animals would be put down as humanely as possible. First, there are the basic standards of humanity that involve not letting another animal suffer, and generally the avoidance of sadism & cruelty. Second, quality control. When animals die under duress, the release of stress-related neurotoxins leads to increased muscle activation and the buildup of lactic acid, which decreases the tenderness of the meat and can ruin a cookout. Best to take an animal down while it's completely unaware, quickly and without pain. Sure, maybe some people would even pay extra to get to bludgeon the kill themselves, but that'd just decrease the quality of the feast itself once it gets to the kitchen. 

Meanwhile, if they can do that as you described, but humanely, then maybe they could even have a Cajun Boucherie, which would be unabashedly awesome. Anthony Bourdain had one on his old show once. As guest of honor, he was given the honor/duty to put down the pig himself; single shot at close range, no suffering. 

Q: Has anyone here eaten any meats from Have A Cow yet? How're the steaks? 

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PostFeb 08, 2021#152

^ whatever rationalization allows you to sleep at night. 😉

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PostFeb 09, 2021#153

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urban_dilettante wrote:
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do customers get to select a hog and watch it get bludgeoned to death in the parking lot while it writhes and squeals in agony? like picking a lobster out of the tank at a fancy restaurant? that would be super kitsch.
I'd reasonably assume any animals would be put down as humanely as possible. First, there are the basic standards of humanity that involve not letting another animal suffer, and generally the avoidance of sadism & cruelty. Second, quality control. When animals die under duress, the release of stress-related neurotoxins leads to increased muscle activation and the buildup of lactic acid, which decreases the tenderness of the meat and can ruin a cookout. Best to take an animal down while it's completely unaware, quickly and without pain. Sure, maybe some people would even pay extra to get to bludgeon the kill themselves, but that'd just decrease the quality of the feast itself once it gets to the kitchen. 

Meanwhile, if they can do that as you described, but humanely, then maybe they could even have a Cajun Boucherie, which would be unabashedly awesome. Anthony Bourdain had one on his old show once. As guest of honor, he was given the honor/duty to put down the pig himself; single shot at close range, no suffering. 

Q: Has anyone here eaten any meats from Have A Cow yet? How're the steaks? 
Wife had the biscuits and gravy this weekend and said it was par for the course. I had bacon that was well over cooked for what I like typically but my wife loved it. We are going to try dine in this weekend since the staff was quite friendly and the atmosphere felt nice when doing a pickup order.

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PostFeb 10, 2021#154

gone corporate wrote:
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Q: Has anyone here eaten any meats from Have A Cow yet? How're the steaks? 
I interviewed the owner, Steve, and a friend of mine who co-developed the building for a story on my website. They gave me two ribeye steaks for my time, and they were top shelf! I wish them the best.

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PostFeb 10, 2021#155

^Great to hear. Thanks for the reply, Mark. Will have to try out those ribeyes myself... 

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PostFeb 10, 2021#156

Is this basically a smaller, more locally-sourced version of Cracker Barrel? 

There's a store there, right? 

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PostFeb 11, 2021#157

Pigs can play video games with their snouts, scientists find
"This sort of study is important because, as with any sentient beings, how we interact with pigs and what we do to them impacts and matters to them," lead author Dr Candace Croney said.
Kate Daniels, from Willow Farm in Worcestershire, told BBC Radio 4's Today programme that while the scientists might have been impressed, "I don't think this will come as a surprise to anyone that works with pigs".

She added: "When you look a pig right in the eye, you can tell there's intelligence there."
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PostFeb 17, 2021#159

^ how noble.

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PostFeb 17, 2021#160

^Man, I was hoping you'd carry on that movie quote... 

Edit: 

Acknowledging right now that we have veered off topic. 

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PostFeb 17, 2021#161

^ sorry, i only vaguely remember that scene. haven't watched it in years. pretty sure i saw it in the theater 10+ times or more when i was in high school, though. for whatever reason it became a Rocky Horror style cult phenomenon among my group of friends (and others i'm sure).

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PostMar 20, 2021#162

Nice to see the Habitat for Humanity homes going up, one of three condo buildings preparing to get the brick facade, and foundations/basements for other homes.





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PostJul 24, 2021#163

$380k building permit issued for e new home by UIC at 3313 Vista
3312 Vista Rednering.jpg (50.17KiB)

Listing for $448k
https://www.4salestlouis.com/property/20072449/#

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PostJul 25, 2021#164

^That's some serious positive developments. Good to see!

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PostOct 02, 2021#165

$750k building permit application submitted for third 4-unit condo on 3300 block of Park

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PostDec 01, 2021#166

I am a new homeowner that just moved into one of these infill housing. Excited about the future of this neighborhood and the overall Midtown Redevelopment 
I am a recent-ish transplant (3 years). Previously lived in downtown (Old post office area).

This site and NextSTL has educated me about cities and what/how certain planning decisions impact a city, and I'd like to be an informed homeowner. 
Some of my views/preference doesn't align with that of the main contributors here/NextSTL/Urban Planning theories, but nevertheless I appreciate the articles and discussions :-) 

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PostDec 01, 2021#167

^Cheers buddy. 

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PostDec 01, 2021#168

Random post for this thread, I'm sure, but has anyone tried the Have A Cow Urban Farm Store or whatever it is called on Lafayette in The Gate District? 

I keep wanting to go there, but I always forget about it. I'm trying to be intentional about finally visiting the space. 

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PostDec 01, 2021#169

KansasCitian wrote:
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Random post for this thread, I'm sure, but has anyone tried the Have A Cow Urban Farm Store or whatever it is called on Lafayette in The Gate District? 

I keep wanting to go there, but I always forget about it. I'm trying to be intentional about finally visiting the space. 
Yep - I go there often.  It is just down the street from me.  Usually I go for breakfast.  Very nice owners; I enjoy their breakfast.  

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PostDec 01, 2021#170

STLCityMike wrote:
KansasCitian wrote:
Dec 01, 2021
Random post for this thread, I'm sure, but has anyone tried the Have A Cow Urban Farm Store or whatever it is called on Lafayette in The Gate District? 

I keep wanting to go there, but I always forget about it. I'm trying to be intentional about finally visiting the space. 
Yep - I go there often.  It is just down the street from me.  Usually I go for breakfast.  Very nice owners; I enjoy their breakfast.  
I’ve also gone a couple handful of times. It is quaint and would recommend it.

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PostDec 02, 2021#171

They make a great english muffin breakfast sandwich.  It's massive!

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PostDec 02, 2021#172

Have a Cow is a great under-the-radar brunch spot! We have been there a bunch of times: the food is great for what it is ("traditional" American breakfast items), and the space/churn combination works great, easy to find a seat there unlike most other STL brunch staples which have become absolutely impossible lately possibly due to staff shortages etc

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PostDec 02, 2021#173

I ended up going to Have A Cow this morning. 

I really enjoyed the space and atmosphere, and I enjoyed the food as well. 

Between my wife and I, we got a cup of their coffee, the biscuits & gravy, a few pieces of bacon, pancakes, and the breakfast potatoes. 

We'll definitely be going back. 

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PostDec 02, 2021#174

I live a neighborhood over and I've been meaning to try this place out since they opened. I think I will finally bring the fiancee over this weekend. Maybe I will see some of you 😀

PostDec 11, 2021#175

Anybody know anything about the abandoned pool at 2650 St Vincent Ave? Would be great for the neighborhood to get that going again

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