Denver

framer · PostOct 31, 2019#12019-10-31T16:23+00:00

Ouch. Molsen Coors is closing their Denver office and moving their North American HQ to Chicago. Milwaukee will be their secondary location. That's gotta hurt the pride of many Coloradans.

https://www.denverpost.com/2019/10/30/m ... s-chicago/

quincunx · PostJan 20, 2020#22020-01-20T22:31+00:00

Denver Infill - 2010s Decade Non-Residential Summary
https://denverinfill.com/blog/2020/01/2 ... mmary.html

PostJan 20, 2020#32020-01-20T22:32+00:00

Denver Infill - 2010s Decade Residential Summary
https://denverinfill.com/blog/2020/01/2 ... mmary.html

RuskiSTL · PostJan 20, 2020#42020-01-20T23:00+00:00

quincunx wrote: ↑
Jan 20, 2020
Denver Infill - 2010s Decade Residential Summary
https://denverinfill.com/blog/2020/01/2 ... mmary.html

Let's legalize cocaine...I bet we could double that number and still make the Mississippi a beach destination!

DogtownBnR · PostJan 21, 2020#52020-01-21T16:56+00:00

Denver is looking great! That’s what happens when you have good population growth and qualified, strong government. Nice to see an Arco sign on that project to the right.
I guess this goes back to the comments by Bob Clark (Clayco). We are not seeing the amount of construction as other similar cities. The regional divide in government & lack of growth continue to haunt us. While we have some construction going on, it is not on the same level as many peer cities. I also imagine what Downtown STL would look like if many more of our big companies (Fortune 500 & smaller) were located Downtown. We would have an amazing skyline. Unfortunately, many of those companies are located on suburban campuses and some in Clayton. We have more big companies than a lot of peer cities, yet many have better downtowns. It is so frustrating that we have terrible, divided governing and a lack of awareness, when it comes to Downtown being the center of it all.

PlatinumBlues · PostJan 21, 2020#62020-01-21T21:15+00:00

What happens when a region works for each and not against each other. St Louis County and City truly need to figure it out the 2 are holding this entire region back and have for a very long time. Heck even Cleveland is outdoing us S-W is likely to build a brand new 1 billion dollar or more HQ in Downtown Cleveland the new building will be a modest 30+ story high-rise none the less it’s something St Louis has yet to achieve. We have some of the chips in place it’s whether do our local companies want to see downtown St Louis blossom, flourish?

Bravo to Denver

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

wabash · PostJan 22, 2020#72020-01-22T00:03+00:00

^St. Louis hasn’t achieved a 30+ story high rise?

quincunx · PostJan 22, 2020#82020-01-22T00:32+00:00

Anyone familiar with the local gov't dynamics in Denver? Denver city is a consolidated City-County of 155 sq miles that has 24.4% of the MSA population. What keeps it from devolving into the intraregional firing squad dynamic we see here? All in one state? Being the state capital?

PlatinumBlues · PostJan 22, 2020#92020-01-22T01:17+00:00

wabash wrote:^St. Louis hasn’t achieved a 30+ story high rise?

You completely blew over Sherwin Williams investing over a billion dollars in a new downtown HQ in Cleveland. I can’t think of any local company that has done the same recently or ever??? It doesn’t have to be a billion dollars so you know I’m just saying it’ll help out our downtown immensely even if one local big company invested in our downtown.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

sc4mayor · PostJan 22, 2020#102020-01-22T01:34+00:00

^ Sherwin Williams is already HQ’ed in downtown Cleveland. I don’t understand the hyper focus on downtown. BJC/Wash U has invested multiple billions in the CWE. Surely Centene’s new (and potentially future towers) in Clayton count for something? Never mind the significant work done by STL companies in places like Cortex and 39 North and the wider startup community.

BPV is a big investment, MLS is an even bigger investment, there are big plans for Laclede’s and Chouteau’s Landings (we’ll see). Square and the future downtown innovation district. Maybe Hudson Holdings gets lucky and RWX lands that GSA office space this year, jumpstarting that project. No, those aren’t billion dollar office towers...but they’re not a bad start.

SeattleNative · PostJan 22, 2020#112020-01-22T01:34+00:00

Wolfpaw wrote:
wabash wrote:^St. Louis hasn’t achieved a 30+ story high rise?
You completely blew over Sherwin Williams investing over a billion dollars in a new downtown HQ in Cleveland. I can’t think of any local company that has done the same recently or ever??? It doesn’t have to be a billion dollars so you know I’m just saying it’ll help out our downtown immensely even if one local big company invested in our downtown.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Build a Bear? Square?

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

sc4mayor · PostJan 22, 2020#122020-01-22T01:56+00:00

quincunx wrote: ↑
Jan 22, 2020
Anyone familiar with the local gov't dynamics in Denver? Denver city is a consolidated City-County of 155 sq miles that has 24.4% of the MSA population. What keeps it from devolving into the intraregional firing squad dynamic we see here? All in one state? Being the state capital?

I can't speak from personal experience but from a quick search it looks like the entire Denver metro area has about half as many municipalities as just St. Louis County alone (there are dozens more, but the rest of them are CDPs with no governments, ala Affton, Spanish Lake, etc).

From an outsiders perspective, I'd say not nearly as many cooks in the kitchen is why you don't see much regional bickering there. It also helps that Denver itself has 155sq/mi with plenty of room to grow. They're not landlocked and don't necessarily have to contend with the factors that plague St. Louis City. State Capitals probably provide some benefits, but I think that's kind of overstated. If you're a big city like Denver, Boston, or the Twin Cities you're not really relying on that to drive growth.

PlatinumBlues · PostJan 22, 2020#132020-01-22T02:35+00:00

The hyper focus on downtown is that it’s your welcome mat your front door your main greeting your heart and soul your smile. I know about those investments I’m not denouncing those nor will I ever they are great. I’m saying is what will it take for a company or 3 to invest those types of dollars in Downtown that aren’t already in downtown?? Note it doesn’t have to be a billion dollars. I don’t mind a little musical chairs from outside the city. I’m sorry but Clayton wouldn’t be what it is if it weren’t for Downtown we can argue that all day. Anyways we can only add so much entertainment. Build a bear and square are a step in the right direction. More jobs would promote residential and retail. Downtown Is still a place where people don’t really patronize. It’s a place I wouldn’t call abundantly vibrant though it’s much better than the early 2000s investment wise. We should be on par with Denver Minneapolis Austin Portland Ore Buffalo NY.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

wabash · PostJan 22, 2020#142020-01-22T02:58+00:00

Let’s try and keep things in perspective. Hard to believe St. Louis will EVER be on the same level as Buffalo.

quincunx · PostJan 23, 2020#152020-01-23T14:50+00:00

United Airlines plans largest-ever Denver hub

The Chicago-based carrier will add about 50 daily departures annually from Denver International Airport (DEN) with an aim of more than 700 departures on peak days by 2025, the head of United’s Denver hub Steve Jaquith told a Denver City Council committee Wednesday

https://thepointsguy.com/news/denver-co ... b-by-2025/

jbacott · PostJan 23, 2020#162020-01-23T16:05+00:00

I've always wondered what our downtown skyline would look like if you combined downtown, Clayton and CWE. It would dwarf many comparable cities. Obviously some also have similar Clayton-like edge cities - Seattle/Bellevue or Minneapolis/St. Paul, Tampa/St. Pete - but cities like KC, Indy, Nashville, Denver don't.

sc4mayor · PostJan 23, 2020#172020-01-23T18:09+00:00

^ Denver Tech Center has a bit of a Clayton vibe, though it's not as compact and urban. KC has a bunch of mid-rise office towers in Corporate Woods and Overland Park but those are decidedly not urban (surrounded by parking, lakes and lawns) and don't really form a cohesive skyline.

Personally I have always kind of liked having a couple good sized business districts. I know the group think on this site can lean pretty heavily towards favoring downtown, but I've always thought Clayton and the CWE along with Downtown gave St. Louis a much more big city feel than a lot of its peers.

quincunx · PostJan 23, 2020#182020-01-23T18:28+00:00

Where are 700 flights a day going?

jbacott · PostJan 23, 2020#192020-01-23T20:52+00:00

sc4mayor wrote: ↑
Jan 23, 2020
^ Denver Tech Center has a bit of a Clayton vibe, though it's not as compact and urban. KC has a bunch of mid-rise office towers in Corporate Woods and Overland Park but those are decidedly not urban (surrounded by parking, lakes and lawns) and don't really form a cohesive skyline.

Personally I have always kind of liked having a couple good sized business districts. I know the group think on this site can lean pretty heavily towards favoring downtown, but I've always thought Clayton and the CWE along with Downtown gave St. Louis a much more big city feel than a lot of its peers.

Overland Park and Denver Tech Center kind of mimic Chesterfield to me. Some office in otherwise suburban area.

I agree on the CWE being better as a separate neighborhood as it certainly adds a different element to the city. Clayton is what it is, basically an antiseptic alternative version of downtown.

sc4mayor · PostJun 27, 2021#202021-06-27T17:01+00:00

dbInSouthCity · PostJun 27, 2021#212021-06-27T18:02+00:00

I was in Denver this past week and one thing that I was kinda expecting was to see a lot of new and shiny towers but I noticed like 2. Also we desperately need something like the 16th street mall here. No cars just busses too

gary kreie · PostJun 27, 2021#222021-06-27T18:25+00:00

I noticed Amtrak allowed Denver to keep their station pull in back out as it was designed. Unlike St Louis where they required a straight through design hence a new station.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

urban_dilettante · PostJun 27, 2021#232021-06-27T18:32+00:00

one thing i really enjoyed about living in Boulder was the great bus service and bike infra. it was super easy to get from the downtown Boulder transit center to DT Denver, Longmont, the airport, smaller surrounding towns, etc by bus. at one point i had to take my car to a Mazda dealer in Broomfield (~13 mi from Boulder, halfway between Boulder and central Denver) and in order to drop off/pick up the car i was able to just ride my bike along a very well separated bike path that followed HWY 36.

LArchitecture · PostJun 27, 2021#242021-06-27T21:46+00:00

dbInSouthCity wrote:I was in Denver this past week and one thing that I was kinda expecting was to see a lot of new and shiny towers but I noticed like 2. Also we desperately need something like the 16th street mall here. No cars just busses too

Heavily agree about the 16th street mall comment. They regularly refresh it too with new art, furniture, lighting, etc.

sc4mayor · PostJun 27, 2021#252021-06-27T21:51+00:00

gary kreie wrote: ↑
Jun 27, 2021
I noticed Amtrak allowed Denver to keep their station pull in back out as it was designed. Unlike St Louis where they required a straight through design hence a new station.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Probably because they voted to spend billions on a rebuilt/new train station and commuter rail lines. All feeding into a large terminal station.

On the flip side, imagine building all of that and then not attracting the ridership you expected. For reference the Denver metro area has added over 424,000 people since 2010:
https://denver.streetsblog.org/2019/02/ ... ics-right/

And honestly as a regular Denver traveler...all the LRT lines (excluding downtown) are in freeway rights of way, the surroundings around the commuter rail line between downtown and the airport is more desolate and decrepit than the trackage from from Lambert to Downtown St. Louis (and significantly further away, roughly 45min from DIA to downtown Denver). In terms of heavy rail, I'd rather have the more efficient pull-thru station like STL and KC have...just wish STL would have put more effort into building a station like Denver and KC did (and even KC's is just an outdoor, unprotected, steel walkway bolted to the side of their historic terminal).

I live in Clayton...it's a 15min walk to the station (or 2min drive to the free park n' ride) but gets me from the inner-suburbs to the airport, downtown, Illinois, Delmar, a couple friends who live on the SW side and elsewhere. And I don't have to cross anything close to this:

Denver

Denver

Denver

Choose Display Mode