Demolition Thread

urbanitas · PostMay 17, 2021#262021-05-17T22:41+00:00

framer wrote: ↑
May 16, 2021
It's astonishingly true when they say "they don't build 'em like they used too". I mean, this was just a typical, average house in it's day.

Average is a stretch. These both would have been darn close to mansions in the late 19th century, at least very upper middle class.

As for not building them like they used to, well, the average mason/bricklayer only made about $700 annually around the turn of the century, the equivalent of around $20k today. And they did better than most other trades...

realclear · PostMay 18, 2021#272021-05-18T01:53+00:00

4339 Enright is a gem. I'd throw some money in to save it. Is there a way to actually invest in the rehab of that thing as a community?

brianadler6545 · PostMay 18, 2021#282021-05-18T14:27+00:00

realclear wrote:4339 Enright is a gem. I'd throw some money in to save it. Is there a way to actually invest in the rehab of that thing as a community?

I would actually do a bit too, what we could at least.

Something like this could serve as a good model for community driven revitalization.

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pattimagee · PostMay 18, 2021#292021-05-18T14:32+00:00

This is what Landmarks does too right (save significant buildings)? I've always thought they'd do well to engage this platform to see if we could crowdfund saving some cool buildings and hopefully break even at the end.

aprice · PostMay 18, 2021#302021-05-18T15:47+00:00

pattimagee wrote: ↑
May 18, 2021
This is what Landmarks does too right (save significant buildings)? I've always thought they'd do well to engage this platform to see if we could crowdfund saving some cool buildings and hopefully break even at the end.

Other than their current rehab project which will be their permanent office, not really. They do have a $100k, interest free loan program but that money is currently on loan and will obviously take time to pay back. Also, $100k is kind of measly when it comes to some of the buildings we really need to save. If you do want to donate to that program, reach out to Andrew Weil, he'd love to hear from you. Or better yet, just become a member. The most enhanced awards and the fall fundraiser are both pretty great events.

realclear · PostMay 19, 2021#312021-05-19T03:08+00:00

I can't believe something doesn't exist yet off the shelf. Maybe a crowdfunded campaign that is managed by a nonprofit and then any proceeds go back into the pool to do another house.

quincunx · PostMay 30, 2021#322021-05-30T15:06+00:00

quincunx wrote: ↑
Oct 10, 2020
3900 Ashland. Should go to CRO. Terrible to lose a corner building.

3900 Ashland.png

Good news- a $300k building permit was issued for rehab.

PostJun 20, 2021#332021-06-20T16:00+00:00

A bunch of LRA demo permit applications submitted the last few weeks

4604 Newberry
4260 Lee
4262 Lee
4245 LEE AV
1511 farragut
1116 MONTGOMERY ST
1118 MONTGOMERY ST
5235 NORTHLAND
4761 Plover
4131 LEXINGTON
3821 Cottage
4133 LEXINGTON
1920 Belle glade
4159 MAFFITT
3949 Kennerly
3861 Cottage
4154 NATURAL BRIDGE AV
3905 EVANS AV
4476 DR MARTIN LUTHER KING DR
3951 N Market
3918 KENNERLY
1713 Belle glade
1328 N EUCLID
1331 BAYARD
5977 HAMILTON TER
5643 PAGE
5975 cote brilliante
1372 Burd
2215 DODIER
4816 ST LOUIS AV
4801 LEDUC
4627 Labadie
4578 ALDINE AV
5147 Minerva
4103 w lexington

sc4mayor · PostJun 20, 2021#342021-06-20T18:19+00:00

Every one of them is in North St. Louis. Have a look:

4604 Newberry
4260 Lee
4262 Lee
4245 Lee
1511 Farragut
1116 Montgomery
1118 Montgomery
5235 Northland
4761 Plover
4131 Lexington
4133 Lexington
3821 Cottage
1920 Belle Glade
4159 Maffitt
3949 Kennerly
3861 Cottage
4154 Natural Bridge
3905 Evans
4476 MLK
3951 N Market
3918 Kennerly
1713 Belle Glade
1328 N Euclid
1331 Bayard
5977 Hamilton Terrace
5643 Page
5975 Cote Brilliante
1372 Burd
2215 Dodier
4816 St. Louis
4801 Leduc
4627 Labadie
4578 Aldine
5147 Minerva
4103 W Lexington

moorlander · PostJun 20, 2021#352021-06-20T18:40+00:00

That one on Dodier

…. Then
Looked at the sat view and looks like a

went off.

imran · PostJun 20, 2021#362021-06-20T22:49+00:00

If a Prop NS nominated property cannot be stabilized for budgeted amounts (30 K for a single unit and 50k for multi) it gets turned down and sounded like it automatically goes to consideration for LRA’s demolition list.

symphonicpoet · PostJun 21, 2021#372021-06-21T04:55+00:00

^So what you're saying is prop NS is basically a back door avenue to demolition permits?

imran · PostJun 21, 2021#382021-06-21T12:00+00:00

I sure hope not but that’s the sense I got when I viewed one of the zoom meetings.

beer city · PostJun 26, 2021#392021-06-26T03:33+00:00

Lost this beauty today up on Dick Gregory - When they did the rehab of the houses there years ago it was supposed to be rehabbed as a some kind of community amenity. Shame, it was such a neat little church

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.660631, ... 312!8i6656

quincunx · PostJul 10, 2021#402021-07-10T22:00+00:00

Some more LRA Demo applications
2112 John
1532 John
2116 DESOTO AV
6037 GARESCHE
6039 GARESCHE
4476 DR MARTIN LUTHER KING DR
1536 N 17TH ST
4103 w Lexington
4404 cote brilliante
4408 COTE BRILLIANTE
4649 kennerly
1514 Dick Gregory PL
5238 TERRY AV
1368 belt
4712 Genevieve

PostJul 10, 2021#412021-07-10T22:12+00:00

There's a demo permit issued for 2140 Oregon. Anyone know what's going on?

Elek.borrelli · PostJul 10, 2021#422021-07-10T23:38+00:00

quincunx wrote: ↑
Jul 10, 2021
There's a demo permit issued for 2140 Oregon. Anyone know what's going on?

2140 Oregon.png

The façade is completely warped and ready to collapse any day now. The last time I walked by, supports were holding the building together, which gave me hope that maybe it would be saved. I guess not.

quincunx · PostJul 17, 2021#432021-07-17T20:16+00:00

Demo permit application submitted for 1901 Hodiamont. There's no dollar amount or description, so not sure what's going on.

PostJul 17, 2021#442021-07-17T20:27+00:00

^someone on Twitter says it was gutted by a fire.

PostJul 17, 2021#452021-07-17T21:21+00:00

3838 Iowa. Should get CRO review

urban_dilettante · PostJul 17, 2021#462021-07-17T21:36+00:00

^ and then the owner will just sit on it—or create a fake "foundation" to make it look like they're doing something—until it collapses or gets burned down, with no substantial penalties. wash, rinse, repeat.

St. Louis is an endless roller coaster of hope and discouragement.

quincunx · PostJul 17, 2021#472021-07-17T21:43+00:00

4816 N 20th, LRA-owned. Damn shame.

Contrast that with this inspiring edifice across the street. Imagine if we put more wealth into buildings instead of cars.

urban_dilettante · PostJul 17, 2021#482021-07-17T22:00+00:00

^ but then we wouldn't have the fREeDuMb to drive from nowhere to nowhere and plow our cars into the few remaining buildings at 120 MPH! it's the 'murican way.

quincunx · PostJul 25, 2021#492021-07-25T01:07+00:00

Some more LRA demo applications
4921 ST LOUIS AV
5232 ASHLAND
5306 GERALDINE AV
5705 GREER AVE
4911 EMERSON AV
5412 GENEVIEVE AV
5462 ORIOLE AV
5468 ORIOLE AV
4148 Farlin
5748 LILLIAN
3908 Maffitt
4019 Palm
1739 Marcus
4854 Hammett
4404 St Ferdinand
4519 ST FERDINAND

PostAug 28, 2021#502021-08-28T16:33+00:00

LRA demo applications
4181 FARLIN
4317 SHREVE
5462 ORIOLE AV
5468 ORIOLE AV
4718 VIRGINIA
5844 cote brilliante
5981 Hamilton Terrace
4017 N TAYLOR
4025 Camellia
4640 PENROSE ST
4917 ASHBY AV
3729 MAFFITT AV
4202 LEE
5135 COTE BRILLIANTE AV
3916 Labadie

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