PostSep 21, 2016#1151
CMT St. Louis @CMT_STL
2 trolleys to be operating at 20 min head ways on loop trolley project @looptrolley
2 trolleys to be operating at 20 min head ways on loop trolley project @looptrolley
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So basically to can walk to you're destination if you miss it by 1 min.quincunx wrote:CMT St. Louis @CMT_STL
2 trolleys to be operating at 20 min head ways on loop trolley project @looptrolley
I don't see how one of the stated goals of the trolley, making remote parking more attractive, is accomplished by such low frequency.
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Anyone know what's going on with the planned closure of DeBaliviere at Pershing? First it was going to be closed on the 12th for three weeks, then on the 12th they sent a note out saying it was being delayed and to look for additional communication in a week, and since then nothing. The lack of communication is pretty much par for the course for the trolley, but it would be nice to know what the hold up is and whether they're using the extra time to potentially reduce the three week closure time.
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P-D coverage of the update... better sit down when you look at the hours.
Loop Trolley hours of operation set, but fares still unknown
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metr ... user-share
Loop Trolley hours of operation set, but fares still unknown
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metr ... user-share
Sunday through Thursday hours end way too early. The weekends they should extend to 1am but midnight is doable
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Save 'em a click!
Loop Trolley to run 11am-7pm Sun-Thurs, 11am-midnight Fri-Sat with 20 min headways
Loop Trolley to run 11am-7pm Sun-Thurs, 11am-midnight Fri-Sat with 20 min headways
STLrainbow wrote:P-D coverage of the update... better sit down when you look at the hours.
Loop Trolley hours of operation set, but fares still unknown
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metr ... user-share
Those hours seem reasonable to me. Would like to see better head ways at peak hours, but maybe with just a few trolleys (I think they have 2 + a back up?) they won't really be able to.
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I went to look up what the Memphis vintage trolley hours were and didn't realize the system has been shut down for a few years now due to a couple mechanical fires on the trolley cars... they need to go through extensive repair and get FTA clearance, etc. I Fear the Future!
^yeah, scary stuff with the Memphis trolley. And they may have been the biggest system in the U.S. after New Orleans.
The Little Rock streetcar has significantly better hours than those proposed for the Loop Trolley. They are:
MTW: 8:30-10
THFS: 8:30-12
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The Little Rock streetcar has significantly better hours than those proposed for the Loop Trolley. They are:
MTW: 8:30-10
THFS: 8:30-12
S:11-5
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They have five cars, but only plan to operate three initially: two retro-modern cars from Portland and three vintage cars from Seattle. (Seattle kept one or two others in hopes of restarting their own system someday.) And this isn't counting the two Italian Peter Witt cars originally purchased, which so far as I know are still in town, though there are no plans to operate them now. So better headways are certainly possible, but probably not without work.
http://www.looptrolley.com/trolley-cars/
http://www.looptrolley.com/trolley-cars/
Man that park work is a waste. That site is begging for apartments to frame the entrance to Forest Park and build density for more retail near the station.
Another missed opportunity.
Another missed opportunity.
Why do they say headway? Just say frequency. More people know what that means.
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You get used to a particular vernacular. I appreciate where you're coming from. Transparency is great. But you're not going to change an industry vernacular. Also . . . frequency means something different. Twenty minutes isn't a frequency. Three cars an hour is a frequency. Frequency requires both quantity and and time. Twenty minutes doesn't really tell you frequency . . . unless you say one car per twenty minutes. But it's a perfectly valid measurement of the headway (or space) between cars. Eh. You don't have to like it. But you probably do have to live with it. And in any case, there are probably more worthwhile things to argue about . . . but being a curmudgeon I fell for the bait. So there you have it.quincunx wrote:Why do they say headway? Just say frequency. More people know what that means.
OK then headway equals period.
I get every profession and industry has jargon. My point is when speaking with the public try not to use it.
I get every profession and industry has jargon. My point is when speaking with the public try not to use it.
What do people think the trolley should cost? I say $2 single ride, $3 day pass.
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I actually think it should be less... :/ Unless! it transfers to the Metrolink.
It would be cool to have a $1 pass for trolley only, or typical metro pass costs that transfers.
It would be cool to have a $1 pass for trolley only, or typical metro pass costs that transfers.
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The land along DeBaliviere between Forest Park Parkway and Lindell? I suspect the neighbors would die if someone tried to put apartments there. Plus, the land is part of Forest Park and things get controversial when park land is handed over to a private developer.jmedwick wrote:Man that park work is a waste. That site is begging for apartments to frame the entrance to Forest Park and build density for more retail near the station.
Another missed opportunity.
I agree, apartments are totally out of character for that stretch of land abutting Lindell.hiddeninput wrote:The land along DeBaliviere between Forest Park Parkway and Lindell? I suspect the neighbors would die if someone tried to put apartments there. Plus, the land is part of Forest Park and things get controversial when park land is handed over to a private developer.jmedwick wrote:Man that park work is a waste. That site is begging for apartments to frame the entrance to Forest Park and build density for more retail near the station.
Another missed opportunity.
