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Another shooting at the Ely Walker building Friday evening. Sounds like a domestic disturbance.

https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/crime ... 99cff4ca6e

whitherSTL wrote: ↑

Mar 12, 2023

Good, more admissions for AMERICAN students.

Education is one of the most successful exports for the United States, benefiting the nation not just financially (with students from all over the world wanting to pay $$$ to study at Pennsyltucky State College) but also in terms of soft power, influence, and cultural projection. 

whitherSTL wrote: ↑

Mar 12, 2023

Good, more admissions for AMERICAN students.

Of whom there aren't nearly enough of to go around any longer, because people quit having kids in the 2000s, and it's only getting worse.

Guns and cars, cars and guns.

^I've been told from a 3rd District officer that SLMPD *is* enforcing the city law that states firearms must be stored securely in a safe if left in a vehicle. 

Last year an officer told me that due to the state's lax gun laws they were not permitted to write tickets for that. 

From the NYT article above:

In St. Louis, police have recently begun actively enforcing a five-year-old law that mandates that guns be stored in locked containers. Nick Dunne, a spokesman for Mayor Tishaura O. Jones, noted that judges are giving people the opportunity to have their cases dismissed if they show the court that they have purchased a lockbox.

Mr. Dunne said that of 192 citations written last year, roughly three-quarters of them were issued to people who did not live in St. Louis — an indication of how the political and cultural differences between cities and rural and suburban areas help fuel the problem

Good

RFT - St. Louis Sues Kia and Hyundai, Saying Cars Are Too Easy To Steal

https://www.riverfronttimes.com/news/st ... l-39742420

I thought this was the onion, this is stupid and a waste of time and money. US has no federal or state law requiring immobilizers

Speaking as a Kia owner, I agree; this is dumb.

APA PsycNet - Crime in your area: Use of neighborhood apps is associated with inaccurate perceptions of higher local crime rates.

https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2023-54418-001

^ I'd be curious to read. But, as a simple though experiment. How many neighborhood gunshots (or fireworks) have you actually heard vs. how many have you heard about on a neighborhood Facebook group or Nextdoor?  I think it has got to be at least 1:100 for me.

dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑

Mar 27, 2023

I thought this was the onion, this is stupid and a waste of time and money.   US has no federal or state law requiring immobilizers

OK, I love when lay people who have no idea what they’re talking about chime in about the law. I don’t have the complaint on front of me, so I’m not going to speak the actually lawsuit here….But, the Missouri Merchandising Practices Act is clear that the omission of a material fact in connection with the sale of merchandise is an unlawful. I think a person, or jury, could very reasonably determine that the act of omitting from customers the fact that a 12 year old need nothing more than a brick and a usb cable to steal a car is the omission of a pretty damn material fact.

Additionally, under Article 2 of the Uniform Commercial Code (which has been adopted by every state), every good that is sold is accompanied by an implied warranty of merchantability. In other words, if you sell a product, it must, by law, be fit for the ordinary purpose which it is used. Again, I think a jury could reasonably determine that due to the ease of theft, Kia Souls are not fit for their ordinary purpose.

If someone has access to the complaint and can share the actual allegations, I’d be grateful.

The question of standing is an interesting one for the city and could be tough to overcome. We’ll see.

Nevertheless, it’s good to see the Mayor standing up for consumer rights while that idiot Bailey is out picking on gay kids and libraries.

Here is the lawsuit

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents ... ai-lawsuit

TalkinDev wrote: ↑

Mar 28, 2023

^ I'd be curious to read. But, as a simple though experiment. How many neighborhood gunshots (or fireworks) have you actually heard vs. how many have you heard about on a neighborhood Facebook group or Nextdoor?  I think it has got to be at least 1:100 for me.

I used to live Carondelet and heard them at least weekly. I’m sure there were many more that I slept through. It’s honestly the reason I moved from that neighborhood. Breaks my heart because it’s beautiful down there and there a great community businesses but the amount of gun play was ridiculous

I now live in the central corridor and hear gun shots about once a month (again I’m sure there are many more that I don’t hear).

I see no reason to sugar coat or obfuscate the situation: We (the city of St. Louis and the country at large) live in an age where every felon, psycho, and mischevious teenager has unfettered access to high caliber, high capacity firearms. It’s an epedmic that, in much of St. Louis, you can hear every night as you lay your head on your pillow.

JaneJacobsGhost wrote:

TalkinDev wrote: ↑

Mar 28, 2023

^ I'd be curious to read. But, as a simple though experiment. How many neighborhood gunshots (or fireworks) have you actually heard vs. how many have you heard about on a neighborhood Facebook group or Nextdoor?  I think it has got to be at least 1:100 for me.

I used to live Carondelet and heard them at least weekly. I’m sure there were many more that I slept through. It’s honestly the reason I moved from that neighborhood. Breaks my heart because it’s beautiful down there and there a great community businesses but the amount of gun play was ridiculous

I now live in the central corridor and hear gun shots about once a month (again I’m sure there are many more that I don’t hear).

I see no reason to sugar coat or obfuscate the situation: We (the city of St. Louis and the country at large) live in an age where every felon, psycho, and mischevious teenager has unfettered access to high caliber, high capacity firearms. It’s an epedmic that, in much of St. Louis, you can hear every night as you lay your head on your pillow.

I live just a block south of the Delmar divide. I hear gunshots minimum 1 time a week with the normal amount being 5-6 shots per occasion. Doesn’t phase me now but I do have intentions of leaving in my 5-10 year plan.

TalkinDev wrote: ↑

Mar 28, 2023

^ I'd be curious to read. But, as a simple though experiment. How many neighborhood gunshots (or fireworks) have you actually heard vs. how many have you heard about on a neighborhood Facebook group or Nextdoor?  I think it has got to be at least 1:100 for me.

TL;DR conclusion for those who don't want to read the whole thing:

We found that the use of neighborhood apps was associated with a perception of increased crime rates in people’s local communities independent of actual crime rates. While the effects were small and correlational in nature, the frequent use of such services by a large portion of the population suggests that the findings, if robust, could have important implications for perceptions and behaviors related to people’s neighborhoods.

Sounds about right based on my experience from viewing Nextdoor every so often.

Looks like homicides through Q1 will come in at -10% vs Q1-2022 and -24% vs Q1-2021

dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑

Mar 27, 2023

I thought this was the onion, this is stupid and a waste of time and money.   US has no federal or state law requiring immobilizers

It's not just a St. Louis thing - cities all over the country are filing class action suits against Hyundai (Kia is a division of Hyundai)...

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a4267 ... -vehicles/

State Farm and Progressive are both completely refusing to issue insurance policies for 2015-2019 Hyundais and Kias in certain cities...

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/27/business ... index.html

dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑

Mar 30, 2023

Looks like homicides through Q1 will come in at -10% vs Q1-2022 and -24% vs Q1-2021

That's fantastic news! At this point, I believe we're on track to fall a few places on the "homicides per capita" lists for the year.

Stltoday - Almost 7,400 cars were stolen in St. Louis last year. But few led to arrests or charges.

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... 97b82.html

DTGstl314 wrote: ↑

Mar 31, 2023

dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑

Mar 27, 2023

I thought this was the onion, this is stupid and a waste of time and money.   US has no federal or state law requiring immobilizers

It's not just a St. Louis thing - cities all over the country are filing class action suits against Hyundai (Kia is a division of Hyundai)...

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a4267 ... -vehicles/

State Farm and Progressive are both completely refusing to issue insurance policies for 2015-2019 Hyundais and Kias in certain cities...

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/27/business ... index.html

These days, I know it's beyond common to criticize media but....local media rarely provides this kind of context.  Every trend that paints St. Louis in a negative light is portrayed as unique to STL.  

As an example, this story: https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/met ... 94adb.html

Sure, in the story copy, there's minor nods to this being a national thing, but the headline and social post make it seem like this is unique to us.   And, of course, I know better than to read a story's comments, but comments almost all imply this is unique to STL because STL is so uniquely terrible. 

^I completely agree and have been trying to articulate that, but you did a much better job.  I do however think that we have some uniquely great things and assets in our city, but the negatives we share with many other cities. 

According to ChatGPT, San Francisco is by far the most dangerous city in the US 
https://gist.githubusercontent.com/sibblegp/a038cb7498a528abce29142235dfcde7/raw/5780e231a66ebbbf06de4324810f5fb3c00e8b74/gistfile1.txt

StlToday - Person shot in Plaza Frontenac garage

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... eeee8.html