Awful weekend with homicide/shootings.... I believe at least 6 criminal homicides Friday thru Sunday and perhaps more depending upon how things are classified.
"Secret Cameras Record Baltimore's Every Move from Above"
https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2016 ... veillance/
https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2016 ... veillance/
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Was there a shooting on Tuesday afternoon around 3:30 at the corner of St. Louis Avenue and N. Florissant? 3 or 4 loud booms and then a crowd gathered around a man on the ground, with two cop cars on the scene plus many more en route. But no news reports. Maybe they were warning shots? Or someone with really bad aim? What happened?
DONT MEET ME IN ST. LOUIS!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... erica.html
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WHY ST. LOUIS IS AMERICA'S MOST OVERLOOKED CITY TO VISIT RIGHT NOW
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We owe St. Louis an apology.
We write a lot about the best US cities for every sort of category you (or we) can imagine. Creatives. Food. Spending the weekend. Hell, we even made a list of cities that don’t get enough credit, headlined by such hotbeds of misunderstanding as Albuquerque and Reno. You know who showed up on exactly none of those?
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We owe St. Louis an apology.
We write a lot about the best US cities for every sort of category you (or we) can imagine. Creatives. Food. Spending the weekend. Hell, we even made a list of cities that don’t get enough credit, headlined by such hotbeds of misunderstanding as Albuquerque and Reno. You know who showed up on exactly none of those?
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STL has to do something to get its crime problem under control. Though its not an issue for the majority of people, even in the city, the perception it creates is really bad. I honestly don't know the best way to solve it either. I would think bigger and more efficient police departments would be a good start. Its almost to the point where we should put up a ton of prominent/noticeable cameras in high traffic areas as a deterrent.
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Bigger/more efficient police department requires consolidation. Suburbanites should not pay police officers to babysit people rolling stop signs in West County while the regional core bleeds.
cardinalstl wrote:STL has to do something to get its crime problem under control. Though its not an issue for the majority of people, even in the city, the perception it creates is really bad. I honestly don't know the best way to solve it either. I would think bigger and more efficient police departments would be a good start. Its almost to the point where we should put up a ton of prominent/noticeable cameras in high traffic areas as a deterrent.
Homicides are what everyone looks at so that's the main number that needs to go down which thankfully will be down from the high of last year in the city. Auto thefts are at historic lows (could be related to how hard it is to steal a newer car). Post Dispatch has a crime tracker they posted today but hasn't worked all day to check so I would be curious to see how that looks
So true and those suburbanites don't want to pay for police officers in neighboring areas when overall it would help everyone including themselves in the regionstlhistory wrote:Bigger/more efficient police department requires consolidation. Suburbanites should not pay police officers to babysit people rolling stop signs in West County while the regional core bleeds.
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^ that crime tracker thing seems to work fine now.
also, homicides really slowed down (at least relatively) last September through December before picking up again this year. We're only slightly behind last year's pace, so if we don't have a similar slow down through the rest of the year it's possible we could see yet another increase.
also, homicides really slowed down (at least relatively) last September through December before picking up again this year. We're only slightly behind last year's pace, so if we don't have a similar slow down through the rest of the year it's possible we could see yet another increase.
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that's the block where Bob Cassilly's son was nearly gunned down a few years ago. i don't recall the specifics but i think drugs were involved. and i basically grew up on that block back in the 80's/early 90's. used to walk from my grandparents' flat up to the corner store at S. Grand to buy Garbage Pail Kids. so f*cking sad. that stretch of Grand has gone to sh*t.
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Yeah, they coulda chosen a better picture.KerrytheKonstructor wrote:Crack?
moorlander wrote:WHY ST. LOUIS IS AMERICA'S MOST OVERLOOKED CITY TO VISIT RIGHT NOW
We owe St. Louis an apology.
We write a lot about the best US cities for every sort of category you (or we) can imagine. Creatives. Food. Spending the weekend. Hell, we even made a list of cities that don’t get enough credit, headlined by such hotbeds of misunderstanding as Albuquerque and Reno. You know who showed up on exactly none of those?
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What on earth?
“Because we are much older, we have these pockets that are located in the city and county that are rich in history,” says Brian Hall, the executive director of the St. Louis Civic Pride Foundation. “So you don’t have to be in Downtown if you want that kind of rich, historic experience.”
Has the executive director of the St. Louis Civic Pride Foundation ever visited any of these places? I know this is the crime thread, and sorry to perpetuate an off-topic spur, but despite the boosterism that was a very confusing article.Take the Delmar Loop. The six-block stretch of Delmar Blvd once used as a turnaround point for streetcars is now lauded as one of the best-designed urban streets in America. It’s lined with a perfect combination of history (the old Tivoli Theatre is here, as well as Blueberry Hill, a club where Chuck Berry used to play weekly shows in the basement) and modern amenities: personal trainers, sushi, upscale lounges, worldly restaurants. It’s the kind of neighborhood one would expect to find adjacent to a city center, in the mold of Miami’s Coconut Grove or Seattle’s Capitol Hill. Instead, it’s 25 minutes away by freeway.
“The vibe in the loop is cosmopolitan, but it’s 10 miles outside the city,” Hall says. “There’s also Midtown, there’s the Central West End. Clayton, Soulard. You’ve got 150-year-old painted ladies in Lafayette Square, and that’s basically on the border of the city.
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what the f*ck!?
Man hurls Molotov cocktail into 79-year-old woman's car as she's driving to church in St. Louis
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crim ... 8e2c7.html
Man hurls Molotov cocktail into 79-year-old woman's car as she's driving to church in St. Louis
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crim ... 8e2c7.html
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Guessing the perps were some southern IL Good Ol' Boys?
I spent some time very recently doing some charity work. I became close with "Tommy" (we'll call him), a 63 year-old African-American...great dude. He has spent 28 years of his life in jail. He is now a hard-working man living in Fr. Dempsey's Home near SLU...Btw, what a great place that is for men trying to get back on their feet.
Anyway, I asked him about the continuing violence we see in our inner-cities. And he ran with it. He says it's all about heroin and crack. The Mexican gangs poke into, and make serious relationships with gang leaders. They sell their heroin and crack and then get the hell out. Then, as Tommy explained, its becomes the Wild Wild West.
The gangs water some of the drugs down and start selling the weaker product. The untouched product they keep for themselves to ingest. Their customers who buy it get angry the product is watered down and violence ensues. Revenge upon violent revenge cycles forward.
He went on and on but he said, in talking to his friends and relatives still running the streets, that 75% of it is drugs.
I asked what can be done. He said that the only thing that can help is access to jobs. Most of these kids would rather work. But the problem, he said, is that these guys have to be cleaned up and rehabbed first. But he firmly believes that a good portion of these kids would work if they had a chance.
Anyway, one man's learned opinion.
Anyway, I asked him about the continuing violence we see in our inner-cities. And he ran with it. He says it's all about heroin and crack. The Mexican gangs poke into, and make serious relationships with gang leaders. They sell their heroin and crack and then get the hell out. Then, as Tommy explained, its becomes the Wild Wild West.
The gangs water some of the drugs down and start selling the weaker product. The untouched product they keep for themselves to ingest. Their customers who buy it get angry the product is watered down and violence ensues. Revenge upon violent revenge cycles forward.
He went on and on but he said, in talking to his friends and relatives still running the streets, that 75% of it is drugs.
I asked what can be done. He said that the only thing that can help is access to jobs. Most of these kids would rather work. But the problem, he said, is that these guys have to be cleaned up and rehabbed first. But he firmly believes that a good portion of these kids would work if they had a chance.
Anyway, one man's learned opinion.
At least 2,300 people will have been murdered in St. Louis by the end of Slays administration (16 years).
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^That's just an inaccurate statement altogether.addxb2 wrote:6.5% of total population decline between 2001 and 2016 was due to murder.
Correct. I deleted it.ricke002 wrote:^That's just an inaccurate statement altogether.addxb2 wrote:6.5% of total population decline between 2001 and 2016 was due to murder.
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Makes sense as to why I couldn't quote it properly.addxb2 wrote:Correct. I deleted it.ricke002 wrote:^That's just an inaccurate statement altogether.addxb2 wrote:6.5% of total population decline between 2001 and 2016 was due to murder.
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Yes. My reasoning and thought process were verrrrrrry far off. I should avoid posting before coffee.ricke002 wrote:Makes sense as to why I couldn't quote it properly.addxb2 wrote:Correct. I deleted it.ricke002 wrote:
^That's just an inaccurate statement altogether.
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^ I'm right there with ya!
I do hate it that Dotson is still our police chief. Finding it acceptable to lead the nation in homicide rate is devastating.
I do hate it that Dotson is still our police chief. Finding it acceptable to lead the nation in homicide rate is devastating.
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Glendale has one of the lowest crime rates around, StL should just hire their police chief.STLrainbow wrote:^ I'm right there with ya!
I do hate it that Dotson is still our police chief. Finding it acceptable to lead the nation in homicide rate is devastating.