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PostFeb 02, 2015#5051

Ebsy wrote:Self driving cars are going to change our society in ways I don't think any of us can comprehend.
Stop making me feel old; I didn't come to the Crime Thread to feel sad.

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PostFeb 02, 2015#5052

So when a self-driving car hits a pedestrian or a bicyclist who gets charged with manslaughter the person in the car or Sergey Brin?

Also, how will self-driving cars effect the future of drive-by shootings?

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PostFeb 02, 2015#5053

Those are questions for the courts to handle, not me, thank god.

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PostFeb 02, 2015#5054

Good article on that line of thinking: http://gizmodo.com/should-your-driverle ... 1575246184

I don't like to get bogged down in What If scenarios because my imagination is much scarier than reality (What if aliens!), although it does beg the question for me that it seems like we're okay with a level of ~30,000 people dying in car crashes annually, so wouldn't any deaths below that level be acceptable? Or does giving up the illusion of control in driving mean that any deaths >0 are unacceptable?

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PostFeb 02, 2015#5055

I just want to point out that intersection where that carjacking that took place in Alton is DIRECTLY across from the police station. That's pretty bold.... Glad they were (mostly) caught.

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PostFeb 03, 2015#5056

This story about Dotson's call for MSHP help in patrolling downtown streets has a lot of rattlesnakes in it:

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crim ... 175d1.html

What a mess.

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PostFeb 03, 2015#5058

Officers wanted to speak with him, he ran away, they chased him, apparently he reached for a gun and they killed him.

Huh.

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PostFeb 04, 2015#5059

I'm not buying the story that he didn't have a gun. City officers aren't stupid enough to attempt to plant a gun.

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PostFeb 04, 2015#5060

He was shot in the leg in 2009 for pointing a gun at two female police officers. He was sentenced to two concurrent 7-year sentences ("14 years") for that. He was released in March. By my math, he served a little less than 5 years (he pled guilty in August 2009).

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crim ... 40a63.html

That's 1- another knock on our lack of serious punishment for gun crime. And 2- a bit of evidence to suggest pulling a gun on officers (in some manner) wouldn't exactly be out of character.

I stand with protestors on a lot of points, but I don't really buy into the conspiracies when there's good evidence that a cop was threatened. The police story lacks details so far, but I don't doubt that this man had a gun.

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PostFeb 04, 2015#5061

He served 5 f ing years. What a joke. He should have served a minimum of 20.

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PostFeb 04, 2015#5062

jcity wrote:He served 5 f ing years. What a joke. He should have served a minimum of 20.
Exactly. Why are the same a**holes allowed to keep terrorizing us? It's an incredibly dangerous practice by the court/penal system. At what point will these judges be held accountable?

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PostFeb 04, 2015#5063

Were there any protest over this so far I did not herd of any ?

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PostFeb 04, 2015#5064

Local judges are elected.

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PostFeb 04, 2015#5065

RFT had a pretty gripping couple articles on the 2009 Cherokee St. incident and arrest of the guy who police killed yesterday:

http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/dailyr ... fkldfj.php
http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/dailyr ... art_ll.php

The writer had witnessed the action.

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PostFeb 04, 2015#5066

Some public defenders are also quite good at their jobs and/or some prosecutors are not.

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PostFeb 04, 2015#5067

It should be a huge relief to anyone who spends time on or around Cherokee and Dutchtown that this guy is no longer with us. Only a true idiot would defend this guy's actions.

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PostFeb 04, 2015#5068

Local judges are elected.
Further proof that natives to this region have no business actually running the region.

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PostFeb 04, 2015#5069

It's not the voters fault in this case, it is the system. It's a bit ridiculous.

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PostFeb 05, 2015#5070

I have absolutely no idea how I am supposed to vote on Judges or where to even find info on Judges to base a decision on.

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PostFeb 05, 2015#5071

Before the Nov election I looked up who voted for/against the gun docket and voted accordingly.

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PostFeb 05, 2015#5072

Northside Neighbor wrote:Local judges are elected.
No they're not. It's only a vote to retain the judges. Judges are appointed. It's a decent system if voters actually bother think about it before just checking off retain, but it's hard to find good info to make an educated opinion. I know the BAR association rates the judges before election, but that's just what a bunch of lawyers think. I vote no on all of them every time just on principle.

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PostFeb 05, 2015#5073

While it may not cut down on shootings, proposals like this for a 10 bed hospital w emergency care and triage services on N. Newstead can be helpful in cutting down on homicides. I believe Boston cites its improvements in emergency care as a significant reason for its homicide reduction. (same number of shootings but fewer deaths).

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PostFeb 05, 2015#5074

quincunx wrote:Before the Nov election I looked up who voted for/against the gun docket and voted accordingly.

Where'd you find this info? I spent maybe 10 minutes googling things, got frustrated and just voted to retain everyone because Im an idiot and the status quo seems pretty easy.

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PostFeb 05, 2015#5075

I skip judges unless there's some sort of campaign against a particular one going on for some reason.

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