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^Don't Stop him he's on a Debbie Downer roll

^ It's easy to get caught up in the suck-titude on this site....I understand

southsidepride wrote:^Don't Stop him he's on a Debbie Downer roll

sirshankalot wrote:^ It's easy to get caught up in the suck-titude on this site....I understand

Eh, you're both right I suppose although I'd argue that wishing for better athletics programs that promote discipline, teamwork, respect and a healthy lifestyle for the youths isn't exactly Debbie Downer but whatever.

I'd like to go the way of Central Scrutinizer -did he/she die or move or just decide that none of this is his/her problem and stop posting?

Whether an acceptably legitmate post or something rant-y, I'm always hoping it's my last post ever but damn if it doesn't just FEEL. SO. GOOD. to rant sometimes. It's the coffee, I know it's the coffee.

I'm trying to stop.

Two suspects in the Robinson Jewelry incident have been arrested. And then there is this weird case of a 67 yr. old man carjacked/kidnapped in KC this morning and escaping in NoCo.

Maybe people are finally fed up with all the killing and are coming forward with information.

"Speaking of pipelines, in the South from Mississippi to South Florida the high schools produce thousands of college football and basketball players every year. In St. Louis, there's consistently almost nothing. The athletics programs are terrible. The teachers are terrible. The coaches are terrible. "

Yeah man I think you're pretty off base here.. I guess you haven't heard of Chaminade junior Jayson Tatum who is the #1 ranked high school basketball player in the nation...Or Bradley Beal who was drafted #3 overall in the NBA draft in 2012... Or Brandon Williams, 3rd round draft pick who is a defensive tackle for the Baltimore Ravens who went to Rockwood Summit High School... Jeremy Maclin, wide receiver star for philidelphia Eagles went to Kirkwood high school.

Just the few that pop into my head...

imthewiz wrote:"Speaking of pipelines, in the South from Mississippi to South Florida the high schools produce thousands of college football and basketball players every year. In St. Louis, there's consistently almost nothing. The athletics programs are terrible. The teachers are terrible. The coaches are terrible. "

Yeah man I think you're pretty off base here.. I guess you haven't heard of Chaminade junior Jayson Tatum who is the #1 ranked high school basketball player in the nation...Or Bradley Beal who was drafted #3 overall in the NBA draft in 2012... Or Brandon Williams, 3rd round draft pick who is a defensive tackle for the Baltimore Ravens who went to Rockwood Summit High School... Jeremy Maclin, wide receiver star for philidelphia Eagles went to Kirkwood high school.

Just the few that pop into my head...

Of course I've heard of them. I'm talking about reaching 500 kids and not just the occasional rare talent that gets placed in a County school and goes pro. I'm saying better across the board sports programs could be a way to reach young kids early and keep them on the right track towards a better and healthier life. The city schools aren't very good at it especially in the elementary schools.

Wait. How do we know st louis high school athletes are drastically behind the national average?

moorlander wrote:Wait. How do we know st louis high school athletes are drastically behind the national average?

We literally don't know.

Yeah I don't get too worked up over the crime

Hell in the supposedly safe bastion of a Chuck E Cheese in God's Country St. Charles there was a shooting.

I don't labor under the idea that laws against guns will keep criminals from arming to the teeth, but can't we admit that our love affair with the gun makes it 100 times easier for the 2% of the population that fit under the term "sociopath" to make arguments over stupid crap that much more serious and sometimes deadly.

So while I understand the yakkers on 97.1 FM and others who get paid by the gun business to deny this why would your average citizen deny it?

Can we rank on here who are the most lenient judges? Who was the judge that recently let the guy off with probation that was arrested multiple times before? I'm ready to start laying more blame with judges than the police.

southsidepride wrote:..."why would your average citizen deny it?

When I got married, I did a present value calculation on my life and came up with a figure to figure out how much my wife would need in the off chance of my untimely death.

But I was kind of sad to see the number and think "That's it?!" So with that in mind I multiplied that figure by the ~30,000 gun deaths in this country annually and divided by the estimated number of guns (~300 million) in this country. Long story short, the attributable amount of cost of life to each gun is less than $100 per year. So it strikes me as completely rational that people love their guns more than $100/year per gun. And a very similar figure is true for cars and automobile related fatalities.

Hell I spend more than $100 on Mexican food. Delicious, delicious Mexican food mostly at Taqueria Durango in Overland. But no gun advocate is going to come out and say "Well the value we place on lives doesn't really matter all that much in the scheme of things, and the freedom to own guns is worth more to us than those deaths."

Sounds like Schoemel Pots helped aid police in their pursuit of suspects in the Creve Coeur movie theater shooting:

http://fox2now.com/2015/01/21/police-ar ... e-theatre/

^ Interesting. I THINK it was on Twitter, but it could have been on this board... but I read someone yesterday say they saw a few Cops having to do three point turns at a Schoemel pot culdesac.

Wonder if in events like this, they help more than they hurt.

If it's about equal, we definitely ought to get rid of them. The lack of a functional street grid is so frustrating.

ajwillikers wrote:

southsidepride wrote:..."why would your average citizen deny it?

When I got married, I did a present value calculation on my life and came up with a figure to figure out how much my wife would need in the off chance of my untimely death.

But I was kind of sad to see the number and think "That's it?!" So with that in mind I multiplied that figure by the ~30,000 gun deaths in this country annually and divided by the estimated number of guns (~300 million) in this country. Long story short, the attributable amount of cost of life to each gun is less than $100 per year. So it strikes me as completely rational that people love their guns more than $100/year per gun. And a very similar figure is true for cars and automobile related fatalities.

Hell I spend more than $100 on Mexican food. Delicious, delicious Mexican food mostly at Taqueria Durango in Overland. But no gun advocate is going to come out and say "Well the value we place on lives doesn't really matter all that much in the scheme of things, and the freedom to own guns is worth more to us than those deaths."

That's ridiculous methodology.

Tonight is the public meeting for creating civilian review of the SLMPD. This might be the most divisive issue ever in STL.

"Do you love the police, or do you love the bad guys?"

Some people literally see this as such a black and white issue.

Why is st. Louis and other rest belt cities so back vs white? sorry to sound dumb but I am really now from around here

Because the State of Missouri has a reputation of being anti immigrant and our economy hasn't had any significant growth in 40 years.