urbanSTL

Percentage of black population and black police representation



And I count 33 police agencies alone for areas with significant black population. We need to wipe out at least 1/3 of that small town bunk. It looks like STL City has decent reflective representation and UCity is getting the job done well.

^ Another twist. This piecemeal release of evidence is brutal.

Profile of Captain America:

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crim ... d0a52.html

... This would be his first protest. And what he found in Ferguson that night wasn’t violent, he said. It was electric. Alive.

At some point, he saw a guy with a bag of chips. Crawford asked for some. The guy gave him a whole bag of the spicy local favorites, Red Hot Riplets.

“It was cool,” Crawford said of the scene.

At least at first.

Then he remembers the police lining up in riot gear. He remembers batons beating on shields, officers pushing protesters back.

“It looked like something you’d see in a movie,” he said.

He doesn’t understand why police started firing rubber bullets (or wooden pellets, it’s unclear which) and all of the smoking canisters. He insists he saw no guns among protesters, no homemade bombs, no projectiles of any kind.

And, at that moment, he was angry. “Why,” he thought, “are you all shooting people?”...

The photo is a masterpiece, but it just somehow wouldn't be the same w/o those Saint Louis Red Hot Riplets being part of the revolution.

http://www.metrolyrics.com/red-hot-ripl ... y-lee.html

^ A co-worker of my wife's just had her teenage daughter die of a heroine overdose. Eureka High School student, so not just an urban problem.

I guess heroin addicts like to leave their cars in the street... This one from PA.

Police in West Whiteland Township say an officer spotted Myers' car parked in the middle of a street Sunday with a door open.

The officer says under the door he saw an injured black kitten with a rope around its neck and several teeth knocked out. Police say they found bundles of heroin and dozens of needles in the car.

Authorities say the veterinarian revived the cat with Narcan, an antidote for opium-based drug overdoses.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/0 ... 54555.html

Someone explain this to me. Why is it people get enraged when bringing up the lack of outrage when black on black crime occurs while discussing Ferguson? Forgive my ignorance.

downtown2007 wrote:Someone explain this to me. Why is it people get enraged when bringing up the lack of outrage when black on black crime occurs while discussing Ferguson? Forgive my ignorance.

Because people are outraged all the time about black-on-black crime, so the statement smacks of arrogance from ignorance.

downtown2007 wrote:Someone explain this to me. Why is it people get enraged when bringing up the lack of outrage when black on black crime occurs while discussing Ferguson? Forgive my ignorance.

Also, the people who get outraged about the alleged lack of black outrage over black-on-black crime generally don't bat an eye over white-on-white crime. It's an extreme double standard. How many white people do you know that marched in the streets after any of the recent mass shootings perpetrated by white people?

Also, there have been dozens of marches and rallies against black on black crime nationwide. Just because the media and the general public are mostly ignorant of them does not mean they didn't happen.

Ebsy wrote:Also, there have been dozens of marches and rallies against black on black crime nationwide. Just because the media and the general public are mostly ignorant of them does not mean they didn't happen.

Also, the Michael Brown incident is notable because of the power differential between the state and the victim, which is not a dynamic present in black-on-black crime; so it's really an apples-to-oranges comparison that serves no purpose except to let the speaker avoid responsibility or guilt.

Listened to a pretty good discussion last night on San Fran public radio program Forum (believe that is correct name and not sure how many stations carry it) from the ride home from the airport. Discussion of Heroin's connection to pain pills. They had an author who wrote a book on it after a young family member overdose, first getting hooked on pain pills and then moving over to heroin. My understanding is heroin is making a comeback in part to the epidemic of pain pill addictions

^ That's interesting, never heard that angle of it before.

But yeah, there's no question that heroin and prescription painkillers are linked. (WUSTL study showing correlation here: http://news.wustl.edu/news/Pages/26982.aspx) When you have doctors and pharma companies that churn out massive quantities of opiates--my friend had knee surgery and was prescribed 100 (!!) Oxycontin pills, of which he only needed about 10--it's really not any wonder that people are getting hooked and moving on to cheaper heroin. Which is why heroin has been making its way into the 'burbs and rural places instead of the "scary" inner cities where we'd expect it.

I do wonder how bad the problem is in St. Louis and surrounding areas. You don't really hear much about it compared to a place like Baltimore or Vermont. Most recent article I can find is this: http://news.stlpublicradio.org/post/st- ... -it-coming I also recall one from the RFT about Mexican cartels pushing H in STL.

^ You wonder how serious H overdose and or overdose in general is? For starters, some one overdosing is not going to be in the paper like the latest two violent incidents including the individual who was shot and killed while changing a tire that are online in Post Dispatch tonight. If it is, it is most likely because it happened in the public or the individual was found in a very public location. Nor do I think a national data base is maintained. So you have no idea how it compares to car accidents, gun violence and disease nor do you have a baseline showing how it is trending.

Suspect gun violence is still by far the most common killer but have no clue if my thoughts are correct. Once again, what people see and hear about it in the media drives perception over reality. Which gets back to the fact that I am still amazed that overdoses are not tracked on a national basis in this country just as the Feds don't maintain a national data base every time a law enforcement officer discharges their weapon in public, on the street, on duty, etc.

Dunno how you read that from my post. I said I wondered how severe the heroin problem is in St. Louis/surrounding areas--that is how much volume is coming in, how many arrests there are for possession/distribution, how many customers/addicts there are. I also imagine an uptick in demand for H would have negative effects re: gang violence/turf struggles and other street crime. (For example: http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crim ... 38e42.html) But good point that it's difficult to measure/report such things.