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The north St. Louis situation could have been much worse. Unfortunately, here's a sign that we have a long way to go, and the tension is still very much in the air...



Apparently this was spotted at Hampton Village by Bobby Hughes from the KTVI Mazda Roadrunner.

Anyone else seen the local "news" article discussing how Mike Brown fractured officer Wilson's orbital bone? I don't know this "source" so if it's bogus I'll happily delete this post.

BREAKING REPORT: Officer Darren Wilson Suffered “Orbital Blowout Fracture to Eye Socket” During Mike Brown Attack
Local St. Louis sources said Wilson suffered an “orbital blowout fracture to the eye socket.” This comes from a source within the Prosecuting Attorney’s office and confirmed by the St. Louis County Police.

Link with picture of the x-ray
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08 ... ike-brown/

well looking at the video where he is just milling around the body, didnt seem like he was in pain or had any blood on him

which video are you referencing?

^ The problem is it looks like a complete cover up gone wrong. If he was truly innocent and it was a justifiable homicide, like the one that just happened in the city, then why was it necessary for him to skip town? Why isn't he defending himself? Why is the evidence being hidden? How did Brown get a bullet in the top of his head, in a downward motion? I think the whole thing reeks of unaccountable, small town, corrupt police department. If this happened in a back alley nobody would question the cop, but since dozens of people saw him use excessive force the police have to come up with a story. I for one think Mike Brown had questionable character, but this incident isn't about Brown's character, its about a very messy police operation and an obviously trigger happy cop. Since Wilson skipped town and hasn't come forward it easy for him to break his own eye socket or continue to fabricate a narrative. The shop owner has come and said that he never reported the incident. Too many eye witnesses on the scene have similar accounts of what happened. The autopsy shows that it is a strong possible that he did in fact have his hands in the air when he was shot. The whole thing is just messy and really an embarrassment for our region, state, and country. Not to mention the heavy handed nature of the police reaction will likely result in a massive wave of lawsuits against Ferguson, St. Louis County, and Missouri, which will effectively force reform and possible consolidation. Rex is probably licking his chops and this gives him the ammunition he needs to force a state ballot initiated consolidation, something he was already planning in 2016.

^^very well said goat.

There are simply too many unanswered questions for me to believe Officer Wilson should be exonerated just yet.

And the same people who said a week ago that we shouldn't jump to the conclusion that Brown was the victim are now jumping to the conclusion that Wilson is a hero. At least that's what I'm seeing on my Facebook page as my friends (many of whom I grew up with in St. Charles and they still live there and are overwhelmingly white and conservative--for what it's worth) are supporting Wilson's page left and right.

Sorry, I'm still from the Show Me State and need more answers.

moorlander wrote:Anyone else seen the local "news" article discussing how Mike Brown fractured officer Wilson's orbital bone? I don't know this "source" so if it's bogus I'll happily delete this post.

BREAKING REPORT: Officer Darren Wilson Suffered “Orbital Blowout Fracture to Eye Socket” During Mike Brown Attack
Local St. Louis sources said Wilson suffered an “orbital blowout fracture to the eye socket.” This comes from a source within the Prosecuting Attorney’s office and confirmed by the St. Louis County Police.

Link with picture of the x-ray
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08 ... ike-brown/

Moorlander, I would be very skeptical of anything endorsed by Jim Hoft (a.k.a. the Gateway Pundit). I'm not saying that his claims are necessarily false in this case, but he's a card-carrying extremist and conspiracy theorist. Here's an older article I quickly dug up on google:

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2010/09/21 ... net/170927

There are a number of them out there documenting his approach to "journalism".

^ If Wilson had obtained injuries during a scuffle with Brown, it makes absolutely no sense that those injuries would have been kept secret for so long. I've also heard people say that he suffered a broken jaw. Based on the pictures of him standing around after the incident, and the fact that an ambulance didn't show up for something like 45 minutes, I'd say the injuries are BS. If he had sustained any significant injuries the ambulance would have been there immediately. Even if, at this point, it does come out that he has injuries, how are we to know that they weren't self-inflicted (depending on the seriousness i suppose) in order to avoid life in prison?

Re: That Gateway Pundit nonsense, that's not a photo of Wilson's X-ray. That's a CT scan from a textbook. It's even marked in the blog post as "file photo." And the P-D reporter tweeting there hasn't been active on staff since March. P-D has already distanced themselves from anything she's been saying as "personal."

There's already so much shocking and upsetting and TRUE information about this situation. There's no need to make throw more garbage into this dumpster fire. From either side.

^ But what about Captain Johnson being a gang member? There's multiple photos of him flashing gang signs with black males.

Can NN or someone familiar with the area explain what in the world is going on in Wells-Goodfellow? I was curious to see how many homicides had happened so far this year and while it was worse than last year it wasn't too bad till I got to Well-Goodfellow. This neighborhood has seen 10 homicides already this year. Pushing the total up to 72 as of the end of July. Is it safe to say that this is the most dangerous neighborhood in the city? Or better yet, is the WGF, Hamilton heights, Kingsway area the most troubled part of the city?

roger wyoming II wrote:^ just fyi EMS rolled up soon afterwards and checked for pulse, etc. An interview with the EMS chief didn't say anything about treatment of the officer at the scene. Th coroner also said that there were no signs on Brown of any major scuffle.

Duly noted. Thanks. It was irresponsible of me to throw out the 45 minutes bit–I can't even remember where I heard/read that.

roger wyoming II wrote:

moorlander wrote:which video are you referencing?

here is the video along with the account told to Anderson Cooper
http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2014/08/18/w ... hpt=ac_mid

roger wyoming II wrote:^ But what about Captain Johnson being a gang member? There's multiple photos of him flashing gang signs with black males.

Johnson is a member of Kappa Alpha Psi, a black fraternity that was formed in 1911 at Indiana University in Bloomington, and the hand sign you see in the pictures below is a Kappa greeting. The Kappas are part of the Divine Nine or the National Pan-Hellenic Council, the nine historically black fraternities and sororities that include Delta Sigma Theta, Alpha Kappa Alpha, Alpha Phi Alpha, Omega Psi Phi, Phi Beta Sigma, Zeta Phi Beta, Sigma Gamma Rho and Iota Phi Theta, none of which are gangs.

^ oh come on; next you're gonna tell me Obama wasn't born in Kenya!

Perhaps unrelated to crime, but tangentially related to racial and other divides w/in the St. Louis region.

"Is KMOX the true voice of St. Louis?" - https://twitter.com/innov8ion/status/502092112444145665

KMOX Management,

While driving to work this morning, I reflected while listening to KMOX' perspective on the Mike Brown story. The paternalism was striking and the hosts' relatively narrow perspectives served well to highlight an apparent racial split within our region.

In trying to better understand this phenomenon, I accessed http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/station/kmox/ and discovered that just one person out of over 20 hosts and news reporters is African American. Out of all 50 faces on that page, I only noticed two African Americans.

An overwhelming share of the problems in human society are caused by both lack of understanding and empathy for others. To that end, I think we can agree that local media has the ability to build bridges of understanding and help dismantle divides within our region.

In the wake of the Michael Brown incident, can KMOX do more to build understanding in the St. Louis region by employing voices that better represent it? Only through diverse representation can KMOX truly be referred to as the, "Voice of St. Louis."

To be clear, I'm not pointing fingers. I just think it's a worthwhile conversation to have. Don't you?

Regards,
Dave

As things start to quiet down in Ferguson, and the dog days of summer change to the sweetness of fall, people will start returning to their old ways of doing things, and nothing will have changed in STL.

Agree or disagree?