The Washington Post comment section is not as racist but just as liberal smashing.
In response to robertn42,
"I have to respectfully disagree."
Answer: That's okay. You are entitled to your opinion.
"A) He is not a reporter nor employed by the county. He is an elected public servant of the city in a leadership role."
Answer: However, he likely does have leave, flex, vacation and other kinds of leave time that you are unaware. Further, I am quite sure he knows he is a public servant in a leadership role and as long as HIS constituents are getting their needs met through his representation and don't have any complaints, why do you? What is your ward representative doing in light of all this calamity in the Gateway City?
"B) He is picking and choosing what he reports based on his own agenda/viewpoint."
Answer: Big deal. It is his camera and his lenses. He can pick and choose his subject matter as he sees fit. If you are unhappy with his viewpoint, buy your own camera and go take Vines, videos and images of what you desire then post them on social media.
"C) He chose not to speak up when 30-40 people looted a store in the city he represents last night."
Answer: First, that did not happen in his ward. Second, I am sure he was not thrilled that looting occurred in the city. Third, he doesn't have to speak on subjects or issues that he doesn't want to. Fourth, when the time comes, he'll make that decision and he'll probably bring his camera along.
"D) It is obtuse to think that he is not using this tragedy as a vehicle for his own benefit."
Answer: You are acting obtuse for trying to control an alderman who has the right to film, shoot and discuss subject matters that he sees are important to him and his constituency. You don't own him.
Further, when was the last time you've taken advantage of something to benefit you? Regardless of his motivations, which neither you nor I know, you need to stay in your lane and let him do what he does. You don't own him - nobody does - just because he is a city alderman.
"I have no doubt Alderman French cares about the city and his ward but his public actions especially via social media are often childish and counter-productive. His constant "everything is the mayor's fault" rants are a prime example of this."
Answer: You have your opinion. No offense intended, but he - not you - was elected to public office by his constituents. Ultimately, they are who he must be accountable to. If they feel he has been childish and counterproductive, they'll let him know, I'm sure. He can blame and point fingers - JUST LIKE YOU.
By the way, what has YOUR ward representative been doing while all of this sh*t has been unfolding? Likely nothing. I haven't heard sh*t from the any of the city's leadership except Antonio French, Mayor Slay and Lewis Reed - yet this is a REGIONAL CRISIS. Even the BUSTERS on the Illinois-side haven't made any comments that I'm aware.
"I have to respectfully disagree."
Answer: That's okay. You are entitled to your opinion.
"A) He is not a reporter nor employed by the county. He is an elected public servant of the city in a leadership role."
Answer: However, he likely does have leave, flex, vacation and other kinds of leave time that you are unaware. Further, I am quite sure he knows he is a public servant in a leadership role and as long as HIS constituents are getting their needs met through his representation and don't have any complaints, why do you? What is your ward representative doing in light of all this calamity in the Gateway City?
"B) He is picking and choosing what he reports based on his own agenda/viewpoint."
Answer: Big deal. It is his camera and his lenses. He can pick and choose his subject matter as he sees fit. If you are unhappy with his viewpoint, buy your own camera and go take Vines, videos and images of what you desire then post them on social media.
"C) He chose not to speak up when 30-40 people looted a store in the city he represents last night."
Answer: First, that did not happen in his ward. Second, I am sure he was not thrilled that looting occurred in the city. Third, he doesn't have to speak on subjects or issues that he doesn't want to. Fourth, when the time comes, he'll make that decision and he'll probably bring his camera along.
"D) It is obtuse to think that he is not using this tragedy as a vehicle for his own benefit."
Answer: You are acting obtuse for trying to control an alderman who has the right to film, shoot and discuss subject matters that he sees are important to him and his constituency. You don't own him.
Further, when was the last time you've taken advantage of something to benefit you? Regardless of his motivations, which neither you nor I know, you need to stay in your lane and let him do what he does. You don't own him - nobody does - just because he is a city alderman.
"I have no doubt Alderman French cares about the city and his ward but his public actions especially via social media are often childish and counter-productive. His constant "everything is the mayor's fault" rants are a prime example of this."
Answer: You have your opinion. No offense intended, but he - not you - was elected to public office by his constituents. Ultimately, they are who he must be accountable to. If they feel he has been childish and counterproductive, they'll let him know, I'm sure. He can blame and point fingers - JUST LIKE YOU.
By the way, what has YOUR ward representative been doing while all of this sh*t has been unfolding? Likely nothing. I haven't heard sh*t from the any of the city's leadership except Antonio French, Mayor Slay and Lewis Reed - yet this is a REGIONAL CRISIS. Even the BUSTERS on the Illinois-side haven't made any comments that I'm aware.
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^Forget Kevin Spacey is Keyser Soze...its more like arch city is Antonio French
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With regards to Antonio French, I would like to see one tweet, one statement, in which he denounced the violence. He may not be acting as a public official as he's covering events in Ferguson. However, he is still a public figure.
I also think it should be noted that President Obama commented on the untimely passing of Robin Williams yesterday, and didn't comment on this situation until today. Because priorities...
I also think it should be noted that President Obama commented on the untimely passing of Robin Williams yesterday, and didn't comment on this situation until today. Because priorities...
I actually had a bet with a friend over which Obama would comment on first. I'm disappointed to say I won the bet.
I don't know if it's even wise for the President to comment on these things at all, but after the Robin Williams statement it probably had to be done.
I don't know if it's even wise for the President to comment on these things at all, but after the Robin Williams statement it probably had to be done.
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why is it so important to you guys that one particular man, Ald French, denounce the looting? Looters in sizeable numbers were arrested, we have laws and consequences to deal with looters. What we appear to not have are laws and consequences for cops killing young black men. What we appear to not have is justice for these lives taken. But hey, when you have a vendetta against French, you gotta keep at it I guess?
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Hopefully this evening will be relatively calm and the police also tone it down a bit.... there is a fine line b/w not letting things get out of hand and being part of the problem by being overly militarized. I also can't understand why the County Chief prejudiced/inflamed things by saying Michael reached for the gun. He was able to say that by Monday morning but still hasn't been able to say how many times Michael was shot or the name of the officer involved. I think it certainly would have been fine to say that is what the officer stated but to assert it essentially as fact and making only the most minimal statements favorable to the police and not taking any questions was not helpful at all.
I can certainly understand the anger by the family and demands for a federal-led investigation.
I can certainly understand the anger by the family and demands for a federal-led investigation.
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http://abcnews.go.com/US/police-releasi ... d=24941866wustl_eng wrote:I actually had a bet with a friend over which Obama would comment on first. I'm disappointed to say I won the bet.
I don't know if it's even wise for the President to comment on these things at all, but after the Robin Williams statement it probably had to be done.
Yeah, Mark, I'm aware that he issued a statement; I correctly bet that he'd comment on Robin Williams before he did Michael Brown.
Off topic, but by the way, I'm a big fan of your site. Scrolling through those guides and images played a big role in sparking my interest in St. Louis/urban issues.
Off topic, but by the way, I'm a big fan of your site. Scrolling through those guides and images played a big role in sparking my interest in St. Louis/urban issues.
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^ no worries, wasn't trying to prove anyone wrong, just trying to pass along info that Obama has weighed in on the situation. Happy you've enjoyed the neighborhood photos.
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I don't really think it matters which topic Obama commented on first. The Ferguson situation is much more complex. He commented on both and that's what counts.
Yeah, you're right, it really doesn't (I just thought it was kind of funny), but I also don't think his comments in either situation really amount to much of anything. But also neither should really be his business or focus with all of the crazy geopolitical stuff and actual, live bombing of a terrorist org happening simultaneously. But again, not really relevant to the topic at hand.
I'm perplexed.........why attack French when THOUSANDS of local publicly-elected officials metro-wide have not commented, Vined, tweeted, you-tubed, conferenced or ANYTHING. At least he's doing something - including interacting with and calming CITY RESIDENTS in Ferguson.threeonefour wrote:With regards to Antonio French, I would like to see one tweet, one statement, in which he denounced the violence. He may not be acting as a public official as he's covering events in Ferguson. However, he is still a public figure.
Sure he is still a public figure.....and he's a public figure who is doing a hellavu a lot more than these other cowardly-assed politicians in the metro who have done NOTHING. NOTHING. Raise up off him. I don't agree with him always, but in this instance you guy's really do need to raise up. I wonder what's really going on here. What's up with the double-standards and thinly-veiled attacks?
Where's Scott, Phyllis, Dionne, Lyda, Joe, Tammika etc. CRICKETS. Talk about and criticize them. St. Louis City is pushing regionalism and mergers, well, this is an opportunity to talk about regional and racial tolerance (and unity) for the betterment and healing of St. Louis.
Blame his Press Secretary and press staff. Plus, he was on vacation. But actually, I really don't give a damn who he spoke about first because both died violently.threeonefour wrote:I also think it should be noted that President Obama commented on the untimely passing of Robin Williams yesterday, and didn't comment on this situation until today. Because priorities...
One thing that I am very happy to see is St. Louis being raked over the coals (pun intended) by national and international media for its Jim Crow-era politics and social environment.
St. Louis, YOU HAVE BEEN EXPOSED - and not for the best. Ferguson is 67% African-American, and out of 56 officers - only three are Black. And that's a damn shame.
St. Louis should be embarrassed.
But what will St. Louis do? Will it stay closed? Or will St. Louis get to work?
After the dust settles, St. Louis likely will go back into its same ol' ways.
And again, maybe I feel this way because my faith in STL is nearing death.
My faith in STL is truly on life support.
St. Louis, YOU HAVE BEEN EXPOSED - and not for the best. Ferguson is 67% African-American, and out of 56 officers - only three are Black. And that's a damn shame.
St. Louis has been chopped up on Rachel Maddow, Chris Matthews, Chis Hayes, CNN's Don Lemon Show, Politics Nation, CNN (Multiple Shows), The Guardian, New York Times, The Huffington Post, etc.Hi Colin..nice confederate flag you got there. Is that your dad's. Jon, you call yourself chief of police? #Ferguson
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St. Louis should be embarrassed.
But what will St. Louis do? Will it stay closed? Or will St. Louis get to work?
After the dust settles, St. Louis likely will go back into its same ol' ways.
And again, maybe I feel this way because my faith in STL is nearing death.
My faith in STL is truly on life support.
I completely agree. Silence and feigned ignorance of the problem has only delayed the changing that our city will have to do in order to move past the racial mistrust and enmity that so permeates every facet of public life.arch city wrote:St. Louis has been chopped up on Rachel Maddow, Chris Matthews, Chis Hayes, CNN's Don Lemon Show, Politics Nation, CNN (Multiple Shows), The Guardian, New York Times, The Huffington Post, etc.
The Atlantic has also put out several compelling pieces setting up the context of recent events.
arch city wrote:St. Louis should be embarrassed.
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I'm so glad these issues are being given the light of day. I just wish it were under different circumstances. The feeling on social media is that St. Louis will never be the same, specifically NoCo.
It is amazing to see the stark contrast to the op-ed Bob Lowery wrote just a year ago in the PD.
St. Louis is definitely at a fork in the road..
http://m.stltoday.com/news/opinion/colu ... touch=true
It is amazing to see the stark contrast to the op-ed Bob Lowery wrote just a year ago in the PD.
St. Louis is definitely at a fork in the road..
http://m.stltoday.com/news/opinion/colu ... touch=true
I'm so glad these issues are being given the light of day. I just wish it were under different circumstances. The feeling on social media is that St. Louis will never be the same, specifically NoCo.
It is amazing to see the stark contrast to the op-ed Bob Lowery wrote just a year ago in the PD.
St. Louis is definitely at a fork in the road..
http://m.stltoday.com/news/opinion/colu ... touch=true
It is amazing to see the stark contrast to the op-ed Bob Lowery wrote just a year ago in the PD.
St. Louis is definitely at a fork in the road..
http://m.stltoday.com/news/opinion/colu ... touch=true
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I keep hearing pundits saying Ferguson is 70% black, yet mayor and most councilmen are white. So majority blacks feels disenfranchised. So, were the elections rigged? Or are responsible blacks not running for office and not voting? National media just learned of the demographics and seem puzzled. I am too.
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^a republican mayor at that..but the bigger issue for me is dissolving these munis. NoCo needs to pool together its money and resources. Hopefully "Better Together" can help with something like this once people are ready to move forward. I've already seen talk on twitter of people fed up with these munis.
Wait, he's a Republican?
That's probably the most shocking thing I have heard about this whole situation.
That's probably the most shocking thing I have heard about this whole situation.
The big demo change has only been in the last 10 years and the mayor was just re-elected to a 3 year term in April.gary kreie wrote:I keep hearing pundits saying Ferguson is 70% black, yet mayor and most councilmen are white. So majority blacks feels disenfranchised. So, were the elections rigged? Or are responsible blacks not running for office and not voting? National media just learned of the demographics and seem puzzled. I am too.
Ah, an April election. Turnout would be so low that a Republican could be elected in a majority-minority community in North St. Louis County.
Not when he was elected for the first time. He only won with 49% of the vote.