As my "sources" indicated early on, this was not a random incident. My sources were correct. As much as you hate to see any murder, this was not random, so Dogtown residents can finally sleep easier.
Per KWMU yesterday, there were significantly more murders in STL over the first four weeks of 2013 than in 2012 - I believe the figures were 16 vs. 2. According to the police department, most of these were the result of two groups in dispute with one another.
I heard the same story on KWMU and thought, "no, there were more than 2." So I have no idea what the deal is there. Maybe they didn't die until after January? But no, that makes no sense.
There's been a recent uptick in campus safety notice e-mails for SLU students lately for robberies/attempted robberies occurring along Lindell Blvd. over the past couple weeks. One of them occurred around 7pm - not exactly the wee hours of the night.
debaliviere wrote: According to the police department, most of these were the result of two groups in dispute with one another.
Driving by a funeral home in the 3900 block of Washington today, I noticed at least 3 cop cars and the nuisance abatement vehicle on site. I guess they were expecting some kind of retaliation.
What?! He wasn't reviewing his investment portfolio?! Shocking...just shocking. No fear the schools will continue to lower standards so the "youth" doesn't feel left behind.
Wonder if he would play his knock out game with a guy that has an HK shirt on and a big believer in conceal and carry?
KMOV dedicated abot 4 mins to this CWE attack tonight, with the standard "we ask CWE residents if they feel safe" - meanwhile murders on the north side get a brief mention if any at all.
ImprovSTL wrote:"Were in the city so what do you expect?"
What a strange quote to use. Sometimes I think STLtoday wants St. Louis to fade away so they can as well with their dying medium.
I read the same thing and was flummoxed by the statement being published when the gunman was not from St. Louis but rather from north county "visiting" the city for Mardi Gras with gun in hand. I almost posted a comment on STLToday, but then paused short...don't want to be that guy. The PD coverage of crime in STL is endlessly frustrating. I wonder if these writers are coached into this style of reporting or is it personal bias?
I hope they have a follow up on what this guy's BAC was and whether he had a license for the gun. Curious as to whether under Missouri law it is legal to conceal carry into events like this where massive amounts of alcohol are expected.
Actually, I thought the P-D article did all right. They didn't go all Chicken Little about it, making it sound like Soulard Mardi Gras is now being overrun by thugs with guns taking advantage of the proverbial Little Suzie from Eureka who's in danger of being shot while at a parade. Rather, they stated STL's Finest showed up right away and shot the guy who was a clear and present danger to those around --- and, that this guy was an outlier amongst a sea of people there to have fun, not acting like a thug, and not bring a gawddamn gun to a parade.
Seriously, who the fark brings a gun to a parade?
Very, very happy to know StLPD took him down.
The effect of this on the rest of Soulard Mardi Gras?
I live just a few blocks away from where this all went down, very proximate, and had no idea that there was a shooting until after 7PM that night. (Side note: Quite sober at the time - was not unaware because of boozy obliviousness) Was out wandering the neighborhood at the time, back home a little after this idiot was shot, and didn't even see anything out of the ordinary aside from the general chaos that's Mardi Gras. People still came and left, and no one seemed to mind. When people heard there was a shooting, responses were "Sounds like that ass deserved to get shot", and the party carried on. Quite amazing.
gone corporate wrote:Actually, I thought the P-D article did all right. They didn't go all Chicken Little about it, making it sound like Soulard Mardi Gras is now being overrun by thugs with guns taking advantage of the proverbial Little Suzie from Eureka who's in danger of being shot while at a parade. Rather, they stated STL's Finest showed up right away and shot the guy who was a clear and present danger to those around --- and, that this guy was an outlier amongst a sea of people there to have fun, not acting like a thug, and not bring a gawddamn gun to a parade.
Seriously, who the fark brings a gun to a parade?
Very, very happy to know StLPD took him down.
The effect of this on the rest of Soulard Mardi Gras?
I live just a few blocks away from where this all went down, very proximate, and had no idea that there was a shooting until after 7PM that night. (Side note: Quite sober at the time - was not unaware because of boozy obliviousness) Was out wandering the neighborhood at the time, back home a little after this idiot was shot, and didn't even see anything out of the ordinary aside from the general chaos that's Mardi Gras. People still came and left, and no one seemed to mind. When people heard there was a shooting, responses were "Sounds like that ass deserved to get shot", and the party carried on. Quite amazing.
Why is it always jabs at people who live in the suburbs?
The most anti city people I have encountered live in the city. Heck just ask many of the city cops.
If you want people to move into the city, work there, dine, etc I doubt making them out to be quaint, big city paranoid idiots isn't the way to do it.
Crazy guy gets killed. No one really cares. And as far as deranged people with weapons, I highly doubt they are buying their weapons from certified dealers where one goes through background checks, etc. There is a black market...kind of like how people get drugs.
I think it's worth noting too how many violent crimes are leading to arrests lately. Maybe it's always been this way and there was less coverage, but it seems as if the St. Louis Police Dept. is having much more success in investigating and bringing in the criminals.
It tells me that they're getting a lot more cooperation from the citizens -- residents that may use to clam up when asked what they saw might be more willing to share, more willing to help. Probably a few more snitches in place too.
Of course, you also can't forget the part technology plays in these efforts, but the STLPD should be applauded and respected for their work. Keep it up -- it bodes well for City-control.
I've been noticing them leaving police cars strategically parked all over the city. They leave them parked for days but move them slightly. I guess they're trying to show a presence.
