CNN keeps showing their ranking of cities with highest crime rates pointing out St Louis and KC in a red state. Google AI said that is questionable journalism. And it said this:
What is the reference for this...
"For example, in one analysis, St. Louis ranked second among central cities for crime rate, but placed 120th among the nation's metropolitan areas."
I like it, and would like to refer to it more.
"For example, in one analysis, St. Louis ranked second among central cities for crime rate, but placed 120th among the nation's metropolitan areas."
I like it, and would like to refer to it more.
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I've also seen an handful of videos going around about the DC Crime reductions and comparing them across other US cities (top ten usually) and have been surprised to see us missing from or in the bottom half of a lot of those reports. Let's hope its due to our actual reductions and not a reporting anomaly.TalkinDev wrote: ↑Aug 27, 2025What is the reference for this...
"For example, in one analysis, St. Louis ranked second among central cities for crime rate, but placed 120th among the nation's metropolitan areas."
I like it, and would like to refer to it more.
Stl PR - Missouri AG drops nepotism charge against St. Louis Sheriff Alfred Montgomery
https://www.stlpr.org/government-politi ... t-missouri
Stl PR - St. Louis sheriff indicted in federal court over handcuffing acting jail commissioner
https://www.stlpr.org/law-order/2025-08 ... eral-court
https://www.stlpr.org/government-politi ... t-missouri
Stl PR - St. Louis sheriff indicted in federal court over handcuffing acting jail commissioner
https://www.stlpr.org/law-order/2025-08 ... eral-court
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I think saying high crime rates are in red states is trying to deflect from the fact that the city's listed are almost all blue. It's widely believed that our crime statistics are cooked, they need an audit to make sure they are credible.
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Yes; the police and its union have been conspiring with jones over the last 4 years to make her look good and in 4 years no officer went to their union to say the data he or she was entering was not showing up in the monthly stats. Nobody at the hospitals said “wait a minute SLMPD reported 45% less shooting victims but we are seeing same amount”. Bizarre cope..southcitykid wrote: ↑Aug 30, 2025I think saying high crime rates are in red states is trying to deflect from the fact that the city's listed are almost all blue. It's widely believed that our crime statistics are cooked, they need an audit to make sure they are credible.
The policy’s of red states that are forced on blue cities impact crime, in Missouri where a 13 year old can open carry and nobody can stop them until they blow someone’s head off for example. This is very evident with blue cities in blue states have lower crime rates than blue cities in red states and in Missouri the state controls both blue city police departments
By "it's widely believed" you mean "a fringe minority of mentally ill people led by Jane Dueker".
And crime goes far far far further than who controls a local government. Consider, Oklahoma City's violent crime rate is 25% higher than Chicago's. What explains that? Most criminologists would say the deciding factor in criminality is often socioeconomic status and upbringing. Neither of these things can be properly handled by "blue cities" or "red cities" because cities and counties do not have the resources to fix these problems. There is virtually nothing the city of St. Louis can do about how massively impoverished North City is without help from the state, for example. The city doesn't have billions in surplus money to spend on rebuilding infrastructure, incentivizing job creation, or programs to reduce the effects of poverty. All we do is spend ~$200M per year on police, which is the single strategy that has been proven to not solve the root causes of crime. And then bad faith people claim that actually we've defunded police when we have actually increased funding.
So yea DB is right. There is a reason Illinois is safer than Missouri even though Illinois has way more blue cities than Missouri.
And crime goes far far far further than who controls a local government. Consider, Oklahoma City's violent crime rate is 25% higher than Chicago's. What explains that? Most criminologists would say the deciding factor in criminality is often socioeconomic status and upbringing. Neither of these things can be properly handled by "blue cities" or "red cities" because cities and counties do not have the resources to fix these problems. There is virtually nothing the city of St. Louis can do about how massively impoverished North City is without help from the state, for example. The city doesn't have billions in surplus money to spend on rebuilding infrastructure, incentivizing job creation, or programs to reduce the effects of poverty. All we do is spend ~$200M per year on police, which is the single strategy that has been proven to not solve the root causes of crime. And then bad faith people claim that actually we've defunded police when we have actually increased funding.
So yea DB is right. There is a reason Illinois is safer than Missouri even though Illinois has way more blue cities than Missouri.
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STL is at 90 homicides at end of August, that’s 16% decline from last year, 32.8% decline vs a 5 year average and it’s the first time since 2014 that we have less than a 100 homicides going into September.
https://www.firstalert4.com/2025/09/03/ ... ard-picks/
If blue states treated red counties the way these shitstains treat blue counties, they'd be in open rebellion.
So we are having a special session to disenfranchise 750k people over in Kansas City, we might also end ballot initiatives, and we are also gonna mess with St. Louis' police department just so we are not confused on what to vote on. We are governed by incredibly stupid people.
If blue states treated red counties the way these shitstains treat blue counties, they'd be in open rebellion.
So we are having a special session to disenfranchise 750k people over in Kansas City, we might also end ballot initiatives, and we are also gonna mess with St. Louis' police department just so we are not confused on what to vote on. We are governed by incredibly stupid people.
Has anyone noticed that the Post Dispatch is unique in double reporting homicides? There is always a story about the shooting followed by a story about the identification of the victim. Why not just update the original reporting?
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Gotta maximize the clicks from all of the self-loathing St. Louisans.
I actually emailed them and asked. Their rationale is that they prepare the update for print and it is therefore published on the website. They consider the victim identification to be considered “today’s news” versus an update on yesterday’s reporting.
It is understandable for print media to provide a second update. My argument is that digital media can be updated when more information is available and doesn’t require a second story or social push which double the digital footprint of STLs crime problem unnecessarily.
It is understandable for print media to provide a second update. My argument is that digital media can be updated when more information is available and doesn’t require a second story or social push which double the digital footprint of STLs crime problem unnecessarily.
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Lol so apparently the Union Pacific CEO told Trump that he should deploy the National Guard to Memphis and St. Louis cause of the 'ol crime boogeyman.
^https://www.stlpr.org/government-politi ... d-st-louis
"Trump said when he asked Vena where else he should send Guard members, Vena said St. Louis.
“I said to him: ‘Where else should we go? Where would you say,’” Trump said. “He said, ‘Sir, please, do me a favor. St. Louis has been so badly hit. It’s very hard. Very very hard.’”
"Trump said when he asked Vena where else he should send Guard members, Vena said St. Louis.
“I said to him: ‘Where else should we go? Where would you say,’” Trump said. “He said, ‘Sir, please, do me a favor. St. Louis has been so badly hit. It’s very hard. Very very hard.’”
Tears in his eyes?framer wrote: ↑Sep 13, 2025^https://www.stlpr.org/government-politi ... d-st-louis
"Trump said when he asked Vena where else he should send Guard members, Vena said St. Louis.
“I said to him: ‘Where else should we go? Where would you say,’” Trump said. “He said, ‘Sir, please, do me a favor. St. Louis has been so badly hit. It’s very hard. Very very hard.’”
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Doubt this ever happens but if it does I can’t wait to go downtown with family and friends and spend hundreds of dollars at bars and restaurants.
You can already do this. Unfortunately you're afraid of your own shadow.whitherSTL wrote: ↑Sep 13, 2025Doubt this ever happens but if it does I can’t wait to go downtown with family and friends and spend hundreds of dollars at bars and restaurants.
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Then again, if we do get the National Guard sent to the city we can task them with weeding/mulching/pruning/raking/trash pickup and free up city resources to do other work.
Memphis taking the first wave of federal crime fighting headlines. STL dodged the largest brunt of this story nationally. Memphis's image is being devalued. Events and tourists rethinking commitments already. If there is a deeper recession, easy to see how Memphis tourism will be impacted more than peers. If STL can slide under the radar as #2 or get lost in the noise, that's even better. It could be more worthwhile to just let it happen depending on what/how/where the National Guard will operate. Try to manipulate the situation as much as possible to benefit residents but keep STL out of headlines. Donald Trump's administrations loses focus fast.
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He needs to not worry about putting national guards in our cities & worry about releasing those Epstein files like he said he was going to do before his useless a** became president. I can get around downtown just fine without anyone panhandling me.
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Trump is going to ironically make conservatives unafraid of coming to cities again. He will send in troops to wander around and pick up trash for a bit, but then claim total victory over crime. Fox News and company will start parroting pro-city propaganda to confirm these "stunning transformations"
It's already happening in DC
It's already happening in DC
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If they come to STL, we should give them all chainsaws, gloves, and dumpsters and send them up to do any additional tree-work that still needs to be done from the tornado. Have them dig out stumps and level ground... heck, fall (planting season) is almost here have them plant a few thousand trees to replace the ones we lost also!
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Yeah he always claims victory about everything just like the 7 wars he ended 
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