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http://mmqb.si.com/2015/03/02/st-louis- ... geles-nfl/

^Those pictures make the stadium look way nicer and more modern, than some of the other renderings. Very nice looking venue. . .

The block of historic storefronts/warehouses between Dickson & Cass (with Shady Jack's), now appears to be preserved like the Bissingers factory 1-2 blocks north, which was never threatened. Really happy to see that if it is in fact the case. While some buildings will sadly have to go, the demo of that block seemed overly unnecessary. It could also benefit significantly from having the stadium in its backyard.

Edit: Also, strangely, it looks like the electrical substation is still there (one block south of the Shady Jack's block). I suppose the train tracks have to move, because they run right through the stadium. But still strange they'd pay $10+ million to move train tracks and leave an electrical substation in place.

dweebe wrote:Interesting numbers to think about when anyone from LA throws out the "St. Louis fans don't support football!" insult.

Los Angeles Rams
Year Record Avg Att
1984 (10-6) 54,455 (playoffs)
1985 (11-5) 56,242 (playoffs)
1986 (10-6) 59,285 (playoffs)
1987 (6-9) 47,356
1988 (10-6) 54,469 (playoffs)
1989 (11-5) 58,846 (playoffs)
1990 (5-11) 59,920
1991 (3-13) 51,586
1992 (6-10) 47,811
1993 (5-11) 45,401
1994 (4-12) 43,312
10 Yr Avg 52,608

St. Louis Rams
Year Record Avg Att
2004 (8-8) 66,035
2005 (6-10) 65,585
2006 (8-8) 65,326
2007 (3-13) 64,294
2008 (2-14) 59,980
2009 (1-15) 55,237
2010 (7-9) 52,922
2011 (2-14) 56,394
2012 (7-8-1) 56,703
2013 (7-9) 56,957
2014 (6-10) 57,018
10 Yr Avg 59,677

That's 7.36 wins per year for LA vs. 5.18 wins per year for STL. Attendance per win: 114,309 in LA, 184,266 in STL.

Where are the suites?

wabash wrote: Edit: Also, strangely, it looks like the electrical substation is still there (one block south of the Shady Jack's block). I suppose the train tracks have to move, because they run right through the stadium. But still strange they'd pay $10+ million to move train tracks and leave an electrical substation in place.

There was never a plan to move the substation, the deal with Ameren is to move to power lines that cross the site and go across the river.

roger wyoming II wrote:So what the heck is another field doing there? And apparently having the railline tunneled under it? Do we know if these are more recent renderings?

its the practice field with what appears to be offices for the team ect...if that means Rams moving from Earth City facility to the riverfront, I'm for it

and these are the latest renderings.

roger wyoming II wrote:So what the heck is another field doing there? And apparently having the railline tunneled under it? Do we know if these are more recent renderings?

Though it was a new practice facility but I'm not sure.

this was the first rendering- main difference from the latest- the flood nights are gone and a cover is added to the upper deck

I'd rather the practice facility and the offices be Downtown, but if they can save several million dollars, knock that off the cost, why not just continue to use the Earth City facility? Does the CVC own that facility or did the Rams build Rams Park? Just curious. If the CVC owns it, why add the cost of offices and practice facilities to the overall cost? I know the stadium will house some offices, but not to the same level as Rams Park.

Rams own Rams Park in Earth City. Obviously all this changes are at the request of the Rams and to me that's a good sign that they are engaging and being part of this process now.

there is going to be another press conference Wednesday with more stadium news, i guess we will find out then

‏"@Frank_Cusumano New stadium renderings reflect input of NFL, Ameren, Terminal RR and Army Corps of Engineers. I am told more news on stadium Wed. #stlrams"

It's too much going on; something is up.........Would Kroenke sale the team?

db, Has that been announced officially? Link?

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metr ... a70c5.html

This thing is gaining steam. More have joined the effort on the consulting side.

dbInSouthCity wrote:There was never a plan to move the substation, the deal with Ameren is to move to power lines that cross the site and go across the river.

From the earlier renderings it looks like at least HOK was planning to replace the substation with structured parking and a major entrance to the site. Note the road running right through the middle of it, with structures on either side:



I suppose the latest talks with Ameren made it clear that wasn't going to happen. Hence, the change in the renderings.

It's amazing how quickly they're moving on this.

The Peacock Train is at full stream!



ST. LOUIS -- The task force appointed by Missouri Governor Jay Nixon to bring a St. Louis football stadium proposal to life has expanded.

The St. Louis Regional Convention and Sports Authority announced Monday morning that five consultants have been added to the task force to help in the plans for the proposed NFL stadium on the north riverfront. The new consultants are Barrett Sports Group, LLC, Columbia Capital Management, LLC, Downtown Now! Inc., FleishmanHillard, and SMG.

Each new addition brings something different to the table in addition to the task force, which already includes John Loyd, who handles sports facility construction, and is headed by former Anheuser-Busch president Dave Peacock and local attorney Robert Blitz.

Barrett Sports Group is a sports management consulting firm that, according to a release will "provide a comprehensive review and evaluation of NFL stadium deal structures and leases, and will assist in developing cash flow models for the new stadium and team." Dan Barrett, the founder and principal of the group, will lead Barrett's involvement.

Columbia Capital Management is a municipal advisor that will provide guidance on funding strategies to help with the financing plan for the stadium. Downtown Now! is based in St. Louis and worked to increase local investment in downtown St. Louis through public/private partnership. Doug Woodruff, president of the organization will lead their efforts.

FleishmanHillard has been involved for awhile, and handles the communications and public relations for the task force, led by long-time sports PR pro Jim Woodcock. SMG's contributions come in the form of pre-development consulting services, which includes developing economic modeling and forecasting for the new stadium project and reviewing the conceptual and schematic design for the project. Executive vice president Doug Thornton will be the point man from SMG's perspective.

"Across the board, we've assembled a team of best-in-class consultants who understand our opportunity and vision and who've been there and done this before," Peacock said in a statement. "Bringing these experts together is further evidence of our sincerity to keep the Rams in St. Louis and the progress we've made in those efforts in just the past several weeks."

In addition to the announcement of the new consultants, the task force also unveiled a new set of stadium renderings courtesy of design firm HOK. You can view those renderings here. Also expected this week, the RCSCA will release a request for proposals for construction management.

"This is an important step to further refine cost estimates and construction schedules in working with our design firm HOK as the stadium development progresses," Peacock said.

So what does this all mean? Well, in the grand scheme, it's just another step toward attempting to bring this stadium proposal to fruition. It guarantees nothing, of course, but it's pretty easy to see that the St. Louis project has some momentum and Peacock's group is methodically checking off boxes as it tries to make the project become reality

wabash wrote:The block of historic storefronts/warehouses between Dickson & Cass (with Shady Jack's), now appears to be preserved like the Bissingers factory 1-2 blocks north, which was never threatened. Really happy to see that if it is in fact the case. While some buildings will sadly have to go, the demo of that block seemed overly unnecessary. It could also benefit significantly from having the stadium in its backyard.

Agree fully. No reason to dismantle the Shady Jack's block. It would seem to fit in perfectly with a stadium.